Variety and player-freedom is everything.
false, player freedom is not everything. Halo is not a player freedom game, you start with the same gear as everyone else and fight for what’s on the map. Variety is not “I pick my favorite gun and use only that for the rest of the game”, Halo 4 failed for a variety of reasons and loadouts was one of the biggest so please refrain from trying to turn everything into COD.
I wasn’t trying to and don’t be rude.
Then why suggest something that clearly doesn’t work and clearly is hated by the majority of players and the core players?
Because I personally liked it and I was just giving my two-cents on the subject (is it really illegal?).
No, BUT it should be an option for custom games for sure. In fact, I literally need loadouts for some of my custom games to work. For regular play though? Absolutely not. If you’re not good with the AR/Pistol, the solution is…wait for it…practice lmao, the AR especially isn’t remotely hard to use.
Reach had loadouts, but it was for certain game modes. How loadouts were handled in that game was different from Halo 4, and it was more like picking your starting gun than a full change. Whatever weapon that was available to start with was depending on the match settings unlike Halo 4, which meant everyone got the same loadouts. You could not customize your loadout during a match in Reach, and the only way to customize the loadouts for your game mode was in custom games. It wasn’t like Halo 4 or CoD.
The whole point of Halo is fighting for controlling the weapons you want in the map. Do you want to have a Bulldog /BR combo instead of AR/Sidekick? Well, actually that’s very easy, barelly an inconvinience: learn where they spawn in the map and go get them. Has someone already got it? Take it away from his cold corpse – as long as he’s not an ally, betrayal is a big no-no.
halo 5 didn’t have loadouts. that was only in warzone and you were limited based on how you play during each match.
if that is what you want, you’re playing in the wrong franchise, friend.
incorrect. this is already the most popular shooter this year. larger player base right now than CoD or BF 2042. check out most played xbox game right now.
Absolutely not.
No.
Don’t do it.
Absolutely not.
Customs, sure.
Nope… Nope. No. Nope
This person has clearly not played a halo game before
Absolutely not. That nonsense is why Halo 4 multiplayer was such a disaster. If you NEED loadouts in your fps games, Halo is not for you.
Also…
"You lot ever wondered why halo has never been mainstream? "
I’m going to have to assume you were literally born yesterday if you think this statement is even remotely true.
As others have said, this is an arena shooter which requires you to find and use weapons on the battlefield. It would be an unnecessary change in my opinion. UNLESS, there was a game mode that utilized this as a feature, then maybe.
The only place I can see loadouts being remotely relevant to Halo is in the upcoming co-op mode, firefight, possible spartan-ops, or all three.
Also that line about Halo not being mainstream is the most asinine thing I’ve ever read on this forum.
Ive got just the game for you my dude, its called
Halo 4. Knock your self out with all the loudouts made to your hearts content.
Meanwhile those that realise Halo is an arena sandbox shooter will happily stay and play. Halo has and never will be designed around an un equal start, map control and power weapon control are the essence of what makes games like Halo, Quake, Gears what they are.
Halo with loudouts becomes and unfair and unbalanced mess called Fiesta.
Buddy gonna make this short and sweet.
Halo 4 tried this and it hasn’t been back since.
No, go enjoy CoD/BF. This is an arena shooter.
I’m glad to see at least one forum post the community collectively agrees on.
Tell us you were born in 2000 without telling us you were born in 2000 lol.
Infinite got 99 problems, but loadouts ain’t 1!
If I could post a meme, it would be Steve Carell screaming “No, No, Nooo, Nooooooo”.
OP picked a pretty barren and lonely hill to die on.
Essentially, you’ve just travelled to a non-English-speaking country, refused to learn the language and told everyone who was born there to go back to where they came from.
Halo doesn’t exist to imitate other games. If every FPS aimed to have the same features, what would be the point in playing different shooters at all? If every game played the same way, only a small portion of gamers whose exact preferences happened to fit that game would be satisfied.
Presumably, you’re young. You’ve only played video games in a post-COD era with custom loadouts, aim-down-sights, twitch shooting, etc. Now… COD is fine. COD annihilated its predecessor, Medal of Honor for a reason. People who were playing MOH had no reason to continue with that series because COD did everything they liked about it but better. Halo and COD are not the same story. They are not competing over the same features as they are very different games. People who play Halo, play Halo either because they dislike other shooters like CoD or are looking to play multiple games with different experiences, rather than repetitively playing the same kind of FPS until it gets stale.
Halo was at its lowest point when it attempted to chase trends from 2010 to 2015. By returning to a more ‘legacy’ style of Halo, ensuring it isn’t just copying other games (at least in terms of its primary features and gameplay) Halo Infinite is finally setting the series apart from other FPSs, allowing it to stand out like it used to.
If you start playing a new game and decide it’s boring because it has alternate features from another game you like, then it turns out, you don’t actually like the new game (or you’re being too stubborn to learn something new). No one here is gatekeeping. Most Halo fans love it when new players join in on the fun, but it’s clear you either don’t understand what Halo is, you don’t actually like Halo, or both.
Other than CE (which jumpstarted the modern FPS), 2 (which invented the console tournament play), 3, Reach, 4 and 5?
The wider playerbase is Halo players. You’re not going to pander to Halo players in CoD by creating an niche arena style gamemode, you’re not going to pander to Fortnite players by creating a buildable system in CSGO.
The only common denominator thing that might fit into Halo’s sandbox well is a battle royale, but not right now and no for the foreseeable future as the core reason people picked up Halo (the arena style gameplay) needs to be fine tuned and fleshed out first. Halo also excels at mini game/party game modes, so that’ll go a long way when action sack return.
F2P doesn’t mean you start thinking about hijacking other game tropes, Halo Infinite is back to embracing what made Halo Halo and evolving it for 2021.
Games are successful when people enjoy playing them, not when they include things because they’re popular. Halo 4 tried copying what was popular, and it flopped. Look at the mountain of BR’s that aren’t being played.
MCC is Crossplay my guy.
Which is why they built it to play like a modern shooter. It draws heavily on its arena roots, but modernizes the approach (unlike Quake, which ultimately flopped being nothing more than a carbon copy of itself) to bring the slower paced gameplay of Halo 3 and prior into a slightly faster paced generation. Footwork, mechanical aim, methodical gunplay, and strategy all huge factors in classic Halo gameplay all return with a fresh take, and players recognize this.
This game is competing with CoD and BF. I don’t have CoD stats as Activision is stingy with with, but BF has half the active players and 1/3 the top player count that Halo has.
Weapon diversity is pretty wide in this game, you just have to find them and make use of them before someone else does.
The same could be said about any title a player jumps into from CoD or any other game. CSGO’s gunplay is going to differ dramatically from CoD’s, it’s purchase system is going to feel bizarre, and the armor and objective mechanics are going to be wack. You have Sombra in your profile pic, are you going to go into the Overwatch forums and suggest it needs to be more like Fortnite? Of course not.
Halo has evolved, in the past way too fast. This is the first Halo title that draws upon its classic approach but evolves it subtly for a modern audience.
You don’t pick up a new game and expect it to shift in your favor because you’re used to another way of playing. You don’t suggest to the knowledgeable playerbase that plays it religiously that it’s somehow wrong or better a certain way. You pick up a new game and attempt to learn the mechanics behind it because it’s what makes that game unique and fun.