for the record I don’t care if there is a toggle or not. I’m just saying that a lot of the points in favor of a toggle are not good.
See, Halo had an art style. That is part of its presentation. I think 343 needs to so better at changing it aside from “we wanted to”. Thats all they gave us with H4 and H5. The argument for change is the one that should of had to explain themselves not the ones who say we already liked what was here.
Its like going into a house that company 1 built. Everyone who pays to go into it pretty much likes it. Well company 1 leaves and says to company 2 “Take of of her will you?”. Company 2 tips his hat and says “Sure thing pal” then immediately begins to rip up the floor, demo the walls, and replace all the furniture and when you ask “Why was something broken, did most people not enjoy it?” Company 2 says “Nope, just did it to be different”. And i am supposed to just say “Yes i love this” when the older model was what sold me on paying to go see this house in the first place? Not going to happen.
I am so glad 343 got their rebellious phase out of the way in H4 and H5 and that Infinite in gameplay and art style is back to something resembling clasic Halo. We are saying since they recognize classic Halo art is a thing, why not just give us the abilty to only see that thing. Thats all.
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Yes we get it, you don’t care so hard you’re gonna sit here and argue that you “don’t care.”
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Well, I don’t see the problem with adding toggles.
I’m just curious about how they’ll do it? There typically wasn’t much issue with this in MCC since you’d mostly see Mark VI or Mark V default armor everywhere anyways. Plus the non-canon armor appears in 3 exclusively. I think. Maybe reach had it also.
Now that there’s much more customization, what will they use to replace the non-canon armor with canon armor? What coating are they going to use? You can’t really just slap on Mark V or VI anymore. There’s like tons of different options and cores.
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Oh yeah. I forgot I needed your permission to post. Gaben forgive me for not having a hard stance on dressup in an FPS. Next time I will make sure to 100% commit myself to one side or the other and pretend that these microscopic issues bother me or empower me.
I get that. I think that is why this game has 50/50 new and old stuff. The line of classic is an thin one here. House company 1 made Reach, which is considered classic by the community. Reach had armor+death effects and “not halo armor” which your side does not like in multiplayer and campaign. The skull armor in mp and emile’s helmet in campaign for the armor. So where would the line be drawn between classic and new. With as many problems that this game has, do you realistically expect a dev to work on this toggle any time soon? Whatever the case is, I think we cn mostly agree that this armor stuff is not a big issue. I think we’re 5 or 6 years off from them even considering this option.
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I suppose anything that violates the somewhat arbitrary “non-canon” threshold could be replaced with the default/recruit piece or whole MK VII core.
I would think that your selected coating could still be applied.
I don’t believe that this inevitably renders cosmetics “pointless” because many individuals I know customise their Spartans merely out of desire. Not to feel some joy from appeasing an unidentified third party who they won’t ever see again.
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Yeah but the coating differ core to core. I guess they’ll just slap on the default coating and call it a day?
Yeah at the pace 343 is developing things it will be next century before we get a toggle, this is more so a wish list if they ever get around to it for sure. And Everything but a few armors from Reach i would say still had the Classic Halo art style. That skull helmet and the full armor effects ex: pestilence and inclement weather i wouldn’t say are classic (i would be okay with flaming helmets if they mean something, they used to mean you were a dev or that you played with a dev and beat them so something to that affect is fine). You would almost have to have a group of people dedicated to preserve the clasic art style and they decided but thats never going to happen.
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I can respect the wish list. At the very least I’m happy that the armor from the Bungie games look like they used to. The mark VI, ODST, and recon pieces (either as a whole, or in part) look off in 4+5 and I am happy that those are back to looking more like their old selves. I’m ok with new armor looking different, but the redesigns of the classic armor was always pretty ugly. I’m also happy that the ads look mostly like they used to in ce-reach. I don’t think it matters if an armor effect was hard to get or not here. It either belongs or does not in terms of this argument. But that’s just nit picking on my part tbh. I know what you meant by it no need to elaborate.
Yes, you caught me in my hope that coatings will become cross core.
In the unlikely event that a toggle is ever a real possibility, surely they will have figured out how to lift this inexplicable restriction.
Otherwise, your suggestion is the most likely, I suppose.
I don’t think there is a need to effect armour coatings through a canon armour toggle as it would most likely just turn off all weapon charms, VFX and all of the silly attachments.
I think colours are fine.
Subjective takes can’t be just invalidated by stating where they fall on an agree/disagree board. Ultimately every thing from adding maps to new game modes is because someone or a certain amount of people would like it. But I guess if you want an outright altruistic good reason?
The VFX stuff on deaths hurts my eyes, it’s obnoxious too and I know other people get irritated by the flashy nonsense.
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But “bare minimum” is relative to anyone. You could say cat ears is your limit. I say blue fire out of my head is the limit. What will you decide is right to get rid of?
Overall you are just asking to get rid of the cosmetic foundation of the game. A toggle to effects is one thing, it can be part of a graphical change too if anything, but they can’t just create a toggle to disable 90% of everything.
Canon, is the bare minimum. It’s the most logical and objective decision for a toggle instead of picking and choosing bits and pieces.
Overall, the cosmetic foundation of the game would remain intact as the majority of the content is across the three canon cores.
Wouldn’t be even close to disabling 90% of the cosmetics.
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Unless you don’t think Rakshasha is canon, you are only asking for the MKVII armor core. That neglects the other 5, and any future ones coming later. Since, it has the hit bare minimum that makes sense to you.
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Why wouldn’t MK.V be cannon?
People don’t get to ‘pick’ what is canon, that’s fairly obvious.
Canon is canon.
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That’s very fair. A toggle to turn those off for health reasons is good.
All of MP is cannon. So cat ears are cannon.