Can someone explain this please? :)

Hey guy’s, can someone try explain this to me, i’d be happy to hear from Gamer or 343/Bungie, either one would help :slight_smile:

Since the release of Halo Reach there has been a exploit in a certain loophole/glitch involving the use of two account, one online one offline, and the reset of Challenges.
What I need explained is, is this a loophole or a glitch?
I am at the understanding that you cannot get banned for exploiting a loophole that has not been fixed for the passed 6 years. This is what happens, do your Challenges as normal, then go back to main screen, log out of xbox live, log into a local only account, then presto they are reset. I wanna know, can you be banned for this? Such as, even if the event was situational. For instance I have a 8 year old that plays on my console and I made her-her own account, this is how I came across this loophole/glitch before researching it. She logged on, after I did my challenges, I log on when she went off, and they where reset, so I made a total of around 22k in one day.

Can anyone tell me if you can actually be banned for exploiting this, as it is the fault of Xbox Live, Bungie, and 343 for ignoring it for 6 years? To my knowledge, when it’s a ending result of a saving error happening from two systems clashing incorrectly, it’s not the players fault? That’s what I think anyway, i’d like to know more on this subject, and to know if it is a bannable offense, despite how it is caused, keeping in my mind that my friend has been doing it, to my shock, for nearly 4 years with no consequences.

Side note - In my research I found that nearly 4,000+ people have been exploiting this loophole/glitch, even showing full gamer-tag doing it over YouTube with no consequences, earliest video dates 2nd November 2011 (No idea if that video was from a Beta, if there was one)

you could just play griffball and hit max credit everyday if you are wanting to push rank

Not really my point, my point was, can I be banned for the mentioned exploit?

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> you could just play griffball and hit max credit everyday if you are wanting to push rank

I also have no clue about any other glitch/exploit including the Griffball thing, I found my mentioned one by total accident

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> > you could just play griffball and hit max credit everyday if you are wanting to push rank
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> I also have no clue about any other glitch/exploit including the Griffball thing, I found my mentioned one by total accident

removed for boosting issues

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> Not really my point, my point was, can I be banned for the mentioned exploit?

I would say grab a new account and give it a try and see if you get banned. I honestly do not know the answer to the question haha

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> > > you could just play griffball and hit max credit everyday if you are wanting to push rank
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> > I also have no clue about any other glitch/exploit including the Griffball thing, I found my mentioned one by total accident
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> Griffball just gives the most credits out of any game type. Just make the rounds last the full 5 minutes and use all 3 rounds. You get a crazy high amount of credits and can hit the cap in no time

Hit a oversized ball with a unnatural hammer, suppose it makes sense

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> Hey guy’s, can someone try explain this to me, i’d be happy to hear from Gamer or 343/Bungie, either one would help :slight_smile:
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> Can anyone tell me if you can actually be banned for exploiting this, as it is the fault of Xbox Live, Bungie, and 343 for ignoring it for 6 years?
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> it’s not the players fault? That’s what I think anyway, i’d like to know more on this subject, and to know if it is a bannable offense, despite how it is caused, keeping in my mind that my friend has been doing it, to my shock, for nearly 4 years with no consequences.
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> Side note - In my research I found that nearly 4,000+ people have been exploiting this loophole/glitch, even showing full gamer-tag doing it over YouTube with no consequences, earliest video dates 2nd November 2011 (No idea if that video was from a Beta, if there was one)

Yes, resetting challenges can have negative consequences by the automated banhammer not limited to but including:

  • A derank equivilant to the cR gained through the exploit (Basically, the banhammer takes back all the cR the player cheated to get) - A full derank and cR Strip, leaving you at Recruit rank, recruit armor, and 0 cR, starting you over again from square one. - A permanent cR ban on your Halo: Reach Profile - A full permanent ban from Halo: Reach’s Matchmaking services - In extreme cases, a full ban from Halo: Reach entirelyIt is not worth doing by any means, simply put play the game it was meant to be played and you should be fine.It may not be the player’s fault, but when this is intentionally used as an exploit, it violates LIVE’s Code of Conduct, which the player agreed to when they created their Xbox LIVE account, which states not to cheat, which includes using exploits for gain. It is also frowned upon by 343i, which is why the banhammer is programmed to ban people it catches doing so. Network Manipulation and Exploiting are not allowed.

Your friend is extremely and I mean extremely lucky the automated banhammer has not caught him yet, and I would suggest you ask him to stop and let him know what the consequences are. Also, you may not want to share how to do that as that violates the Halo Waypoint Forum Rules as it would be considered promoting cheating.
Hope this helps and have a nice day now.

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> > > you could just play griffball and hit max credit everyday if you are wanting to push rank
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> > I also have no clue about any other glitch/exploit including the Griffball thing, I found my mentioned one by total accident
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> Griffball just gives the most credits out of any game type. Just make the rounds last the full 5 minutes and use all 3 rounds. You get a crazy high amount of credits and can hit the cap in no time

you’re the type of people that ruin grifball. peacematchers are trash.

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> > > > you could just play griffball and hit max credit everyday if you are wanting to push rank
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> > > I also have no clue about any other glitch/exploit including the Griffball thing, I found my mentioned one by total accident
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> > Griffball just gives the most credits out of any game type. Just make the rounds last the full 5 minutes and use all 3 rounds. You get a crazy high amount of credits and can hit the cap in no time
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> you’re the type of people that ruin grifball. peacematchers are trash.

we ran with a full team and were good enough to do it. We did run into full teams that were good enough to play with us, and we didn’t just keep doing it, once our cap was hit, we quit

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> > > > > you could just play griffball and hit max credit everyday if you are wanting to push rank
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> > > > I also have no clue about any other glitch/exploit including the Griffball thing, I found my mentioned one by total accident
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> > > Griffball just gives the most credits out of any game type. Just make the rounds last the full 5 minutes and use all 3 rounds. You get a crazy high amount of credits and can hit the cap in no time
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> > you’re the type of people that ruin grifball. peacematchers are trash.
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> we ran with a full team and were good enough to do it. We did run into full teams that were good enough to play with us, and we didn’t just keep doing it, once our cap was hit, we quit

that still doesn’t help the situation at all. there are still people in that playlist who actually want to play grifball normally because Halo 4 and Halo 5 grifball aren’t that good.

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> > > > > > you could just play griffball and hit max credit everyday if you are wanting to push rank
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> > > > > I also have no clue about any other glitch/exploit including the Griffball thing, I found my mentioned one by total accident
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> > > > Griffball just gives the most credits out of any game type. Just make the rounds last the full 5 minutes and use all 3 rounds. You get a crazy high amount of credits and can hit the cap in no time
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> > > you’re the type of people that ruin grifball. peacematchers are trash.
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> > we ran with a full team and were good enough to do it. We did run into full teams that were good enough to play with us, and we didn’t just keep doing it, once our cap was hit, we quit
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> that still doesn’t help the situation at all. there are still people in that playlist who actually want to play grifball normally because Halo 4 and Halo 5 grifball aren’t that good.

oh ok, I will edit and remove it now

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> > > > > > you could just play griffball and hit max credit everyday if you are wanting to push rank
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> > > > > I also have no clue about any other glitch/exploit including the Griffball thing, I found my mentioned one by total accident
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> > > > Griffball just gives the most credits out of any game type. Just make the rounds last the full 5 minutes and use all 3 rounds. You get a crazy high amount of credits and can hit the cap in no time
> > >
> > > you’re the type of people that ruin grifball. peacematchers are trash.
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> > we ran with a full team and were good enough to do it. We did run into full teams that were good enough to play with us, and we didn’t just keep doing it, once our cap was hit, we quit
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> that still doesn’t help the situation at all. there are still people in that playlist who actually want to play grifball normally because Halo 4 and Halo 5 grifball aren’t that good.

edit your post to remove the tactic if you would