As much as i enjoyed Infinite’s campaign, i dont think $60 (USD) just for campaign and a few coatings and emblems are worth it. If we do get DLC for campaign, it should more than definitely be free, atleast the first DLC, and then around $20 to $30 for future DLC, similar to how Destiny does it.
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Would of been better if they just let the players have acess to everything after buying the campaign instead of this buy the new shade of grey crap.
Would of been fine with buying dlcs after.
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The direction they took with Infinite ins’t the problem. How they are currently handling is. F2P is a current game trend to allow players to spend time on the game longer and access more money situationally. Many multiplayer games succeed in this.
Halo Infinite failed doing so with its limited content. And narrow progression. If they don’t change, then definitely the idea of paying a full game and DLCs later is a better idea. But yet, that is still shown to give less money in the long run.
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It probably will be free DLC content updates.
they make a crapton of money from armor unlocks.
The other games that do the pay wall are the ones I play once or twice a year. Mabey longer.
Very easy for me to forget about because of the lack of creative freedom for my characters.
343 did this not only with armour but colours COLOURS!!! Are they for real?
I can customise my original halo CE spartan more than I can for infinite.
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You have 18 color choices in the original CE title.
540 possible combinations if you factor in visor colors in MCC.
Infinite MKVII (free items only):
Coatings: 21
Helmet: 4
Visor: 5
Shoulder: 4
Shoulder: 4
Chest: 3
Wrist: 2
Gloves: 2
Knees: 1
Utility: 3
Excluding factoring in the helmet attachments (which are generally exclusive to the helmets they’re attributed to), excluding armor effects, excluding armor emblems (and emblem colors), excluding prosthetic choices, excluding body slider choices, excluding Spartan voices, excluding stances, excluding weapon/vehicle customization, and including default armor configs (nothing attached) there’s a total of 241,920 different combos from the available free unlocks on the MKVII (at least that I have unlocked through free routes, there’s a few options I don’t have unlocked).
In conclusion you cannot “customise your original halo CE spartan more than you can for infinite.”
Total combinations (free to obtain unlocks/default only):
Halo Infinite: ≈241,920< (MKVII)
Halo Infinite: ≈3,888< (Yoroi)
Halo CE: 18
Halo CE (MCC): 540
Edit: for fun let’s do Yoroi (free items only):
Coatings: 4
Helmet: 3
Visor: 2
Shoulder: 3
Shoulder: 3
Chest: 3
Wrist: 1
Gloves: 1
Knees: 2
Utility: 3
Total Combinations: 3,888
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It’s not a matter of possible combinations, it’s a matter of player freedom.
In CE, you have 18 different colors to choose from and 30 different visors to choose from
The highest thing you have in Infinite are coatings, and even those are pretty limited due to how the system is set up.
You have barely anything to choose from in the other sections.
It’s even worse for Yorai, even if you paid for all of the armor. (that’s why crosscore should be a thing, players get more stuff to customize with and stuff becomes more valuable=343 gets more money, everyone wins)
If we compare Infinite customization to Reach though
- Spartan
Helmets=41
Helm attachments=49 (I think)
Chests=27
Shoulders=18
Knee gaurds=4
Wrists=6
Utility=7
Visor=5
There’s 820’154’160 armor combinations in Reach, almost twice as many that Infinite has.
That’s not even including the color customization.
I remember back in the days when map packs were released for Halo 2. I brought it in an instant because the core game was actually good. But with this, if they dont release it free i’ll just watch it on youtube.
Depends how big the DLC is and how much of the already made world it reuses. I never liked how a lot of Destiny DLC would mostly reuse the same base game areas and charge me $20 for it.
If I have to pay for campaign DLC than I won’t be buying it.
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No, all of it should be free, no exceptions.
You attempts to use Destiny as an example, but your are not looking at the fact that 343 hasn’t offered really anything at all other then a BP/shop.
Destiny on the other hand released with triple the content, vs infinite, and quadruple the loot just from the base game. 343 needs to make an actual game before they ever start asking for money for content, period.
dont forget a lot of destiny’s content has been vaulted, multiple dlcs and other stuff vaulted
I’m still bothered about that. Bungie claimed the content was part of the reason for the load time issues, yet nothing has changed with the load time since they removed half the game.
Hahahahahahahahahaha, good LUCK with that.
They should probably do what Destiny does where you have a mixture of free events along with the big expansions which add a significant chunk of new content.
I don’t mind paying for it. But I think it has to be of a certain quality to justify it. Basically a whole new 6-8 hour campaign. If it’s just parcelling out a few new Forerunner dungeons or a new island like the AA gun island; I think that’s a hard sell.
I reckon good chance E3 they’ll do a tease for the Endless Campaign DLC. Just in general they’ve so far avoided any real discussion of the campaign story and where they’re at with everything. So I am not sure what the overall direction and vision is for the campaign going forward.
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I’d be good if the first DLC was free, at the very least.
I hoped that we’d get the Battle Pass thrown in, but given that the Campaign just feels like the prologue to the story, it’d put a sour taste in my mouth to then spend £10-£25 on continuing the story. If I knew £10-£25 was a Campaign Season Pass, then I’d feel a bit better about it…
Of course, Campaign DLC might be quite a way off, unfortunately.
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Agreed! I was sold a “live service” game, but there has been 0 campaign content, and 0 talk about campaign content since release. I have no confidence that the terribly empty and generic open world will ever be updated.
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Now imagine if we are able to choose our own Primary and Secondary colours instead of using Coatings. I think that fact alone and that basic customization option being stolen from the players cuts down the number of creative combinations Infinite actually has vs MCC.
Their little focus group who developed Coatings basically decided that “oh, let’s just sell this thing which is all the popular colour combinations” but conveniently forgetting that player expression is not reflective of the majority. That immediately sours the playerbase’s introduction to the coating system.
Coating system was then sullied further by 343 selling the same Coating 3 times for different cores and pricing them as such in bundles, which mean we may need to BUY THE SAME COATING AGAIN for future cores. All this combined just makes the entire customization experience disappointing. Player first btw.
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Isn’t the campaign technically considered DLC already?
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Correct, it’s more accurate to see the Campaign as DLC, which means future story expansions will be DLC on the same level of GW2, FF14, Destiny 2 and WoW selling expansions.
But this could also mean they may be giving players Forge and Firefight free, especially if Firefight is in the context of using MP Spartans. This is a positive for free players, but a negative for paying players if they charge through the nose for the Campaign.
I think they should be selling the Campaign DLCs for roughly half the base Campaign price, since it’s just expanding on it. Even other games with Campaign DLCs in the form of weapons armor vehicles and content don’t cost 60 bucks off the bat.
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