Doesn’t Call of Duty just charge for Season Passes/Maps?
It was massively successful because 1. It was CoD 2. It was free and 3. it was a Battle Royale
Which is sad as hell.
First of all, giving them 9 months is a huge amount of time for them. I suspect no paid game can realistically compete with a F2P Halo, I’d be far more worried about what Apex does.
The biggest thing I like about CoD’s store, is that they didn’t take away anything to add it. You still have unlockable guns, camos, reticles, attachments, perks, etc. With Infinite they decided to cut out colors to add in coatings. That would be like if to add in different weapon skins CoD decided to get rid of camos. But that never happened.
I know that’s not directly an issue with the store, but I really do feel the reason we don’t have colors isn’t because they couldn’t figure out a way to work then in with Coatings. They could have, Halo 5 essentially had coatings (different armor variants) and still had colors. I feel the reason is because if players could pick their colors, then they’d have less incentive to buy coatings. And it’s that taking away of features that have been franchise staples for decades only to sell that back piecemeal that I despise most about the store.
WTF is your problem?
a lot of things… How exactly is this relevant to Halo?
Try reading the context and the questions I was replying to….or do I have to request your permission to discuss other games and make comparative statements on here?
Lmao giving them 9 months before you quit the game is completely useless… I just hope you didn’t give them $60 for their sub par campaign and I hope you didn’t spend any money on the shop or their useless season pass.
I mean the questions and the context are about microtransactions are they not?
I am just a bluejay, you do not have to ask me permission for anything. Basic forum rules always apply though.
Yeah bruh many of us been waiting for like a decade… Bit of a stretch if you ask me.
I don’t know. I haven’t played COD since last May and haven’t been following what they’ve done or doing with Cold War or Vanguard. For COD MW you simply bought the game, BP was introduced alongside Warzone (if I remember correctly), the BP was essentially I one time purchase if you didn’t spend your earned credits in the store on cosmetics, and they never charged for maps in COD MW or Warzone (not whilst I was playing).
Unlike you…I clearly have a life and don’t have time to play more games. I didn’t actually realise how many different games I played was a mark of how successful I was in life…I bow down to your infinite knowledge and wisdom.
9 months is a huge amount of time for them? Really?! They’ve had 6 years…SIX YEARS!!! Remind me again how long BTB has been broken for and they don’t know what has caused the issue?! I think you need a reality check if you think this broken -Yoink!- game is going to be on the road to success before MW2 is released…I really really really hope it is because I love Halo but I have absolutely no confidence in 343i. Seriously…why do you think Microsoft have bought Activision? Have a little think about that.
Nah I upgraded 3 years of XBL Gold for £1 so got it essentially for free on Gamespass…and no, I haven’t bought the BP or anything in the store. I’m more than happy to support this game with my pocket, but I simply can’t justify it whilst the game is in its current state. I also agree the campaign was “meh” and the BP is a 
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Thank god you didn’t pay for that overpriced campaign, now I can breathe.
Again, try reading. The OP asked me specific questions about the COD store in response to my comment about the blueprint that 343i could have copied and improved upon. I have absolutely no idea why are hung up on this when both myself and Kitten above have provided him with information.
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Oh come dude, stop being so melodramatic lol.
Games are super complicated nowadays and typically have much more content (towards the end of their lifecycle that is) so I kind of think that playing more than a handful of games (unless you are an achievement hunter or something) is just wayyyy too time consuming. Its not just learning all the controls, the meta, and so on, I just think that going from one game to another constantly is more trouble than its worth.
Cool thing about shooters is that they are all very very similar, so its not like if you are a top level Halo player you go into CoD and can’t hang, so I think shooters probably have tons of people that swap between them like socks or something. Sort of like how fighting games players are.
If you only have like a dozen hours a week or something then maybe playing more than one game at a time isn’t worthwhile, but regardless so many different shooters out nowadays. Destiny 2, Apex, Fortnite, Siege, heck even games that are a bit older like Gears 5 or TF2 are still awesome. Franchise fatigue sets in for everybody because as your expectations rise the quality never catches up. I think my mind got a lot of rest from not playing Halo 5 to death when it came out. Besides, you could always just come back to Infinite like years later I don’t understand what would stop you exactly. Like yeah you wouldn’t be able to hit max rank or whatever frivolous thing the game has set up but the content or whatever they add to Infinite over time would be there waiting for you when you come back.
I think you took my comment the opposite way it was intended, I am confused.
They are likely to reduce the price on it soon I’d imagine. I would be surprised if it sold remotely well what with no Co-op and all.
I’m sure most people got campaign through game pass so they have no need to reduce the price. I bet you they won’t because of how desperate and greedy they have shown themselves to be.
That’s fair, so what do you think you would monetize if you were 343 and released a F2P game? One can’t and shouldn’t monetize power. Would you put armour pieces behind levels and you could pay to skip them or do you have a different idea?
So all those points are fair, thanks for the context. How would you translate this to Halo monetization if you were in control? When thinking about Halo fans expecting certain things compared to a CoD fan?
They already made their money. The campaign that is incomplete, while also no longer including multiplayer was still full price. They also had pre-order editions, battlepasses added in, monetized challenge skips, and XP, and now the overpriced microtransaction storefront.
At the very least there should be a way to earn everything through gameplay even if it’s somewhat slow.
I feel worse that you tricked me into opening a video by Extra Credits than I would if this was just another thread flaming constantly.
Well, I’m fine with some armor being in the store. But we should have enough unlockable by default (or at least if we bought the campaign) so customization doesn’t feel wanting. We don’t necessarily need the “coolest” stuff to be unlockable, but enough so you can make your Spartan feel unique day 1. Which by the way, they promised us, even in the first Insider Infinite, they promised tons of customization unlockable for free, day one.
I also think coatings are fine to sell, but they should be crosscore. Selling us the same coating multiple times is insulting. Also, we should still have color options. At the very least they could handle coatings how Halo 5 did. You remember that Halo 5 essentially had coatings right? There were different textures and patterns on armor, but you could still choose your colors.
We should also not have lost emblem customization. Some emblems can be sold in stores, but we should still be able to choose emblem colors. That was one of the main ways to customize your Spartan in Halo 2. There was no need to remove it. Also, don’t sell us the same emblem multiple times. It’s one emblem.
Other than that, go wild. It would probably be nice if we had some armor effects unlockable, but I’m not super concerned. That still gives them a lot to sell to use. Really, I’m not against monetization. I just don’t think they should have stripped away customization features Halo has had for over a decade. CoD didn’t strip out customization features when it added a store, and Halo didn’t need to either. And 343 even admitted they knew these choices wouldn’t make people happy, well, I think that’s terrible decision making. Above all else you want the players happy, otherwise how are you going to sustain the game for “10 years”?
They simply just need to get their content and pricing structure up to a reasonable standard…and that includes the BP content (which will now have free credits from S2). There is arguably more customisable content in Halo Infinite than COD…but that literally depends on their creativity which appears to be greatly lacking at the moment. It would also help if the store UI was significantly improved. It’s almost as if there hasn’t been a lot of thought and process put in to many aspects of this game.
R.I.P. modern warfare. Played that game for a year straight! Ten times better than this debacle