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Games Halo 5: Guardians
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See what I did there? Troll title but serious OP?

I was looking at the Warzone which is where my interest is in Halo 5 at the moment. But all around I’m seeing it instantly being compared to Titanfall and Advanced Warfare. This is one of the reason I left Halo with MCC and the community itself. It’s starting to become a trend to judge and entire game, just from one gamemode. If you look at Warzone, its basically the child of Invasion and Firefight which is pretty much the best combo of any mode I’ve seen in Halo. The Req cards, yeah that might be from Titanfall, but yet look at Titanfalls success, and look at Halo’s. Take one feature, put in into Halo and improve it, and that one feature might change a gamemode for the better. Besides the fact, that feature could be exclusive only to Warzone, not BTB or any other gamemode. We’ve already seen War Games and improvements to that with Halo 5.

So why did I change my mind about Halo 5 when I came to dislike MCC? Because I wanted to see Halo in a new light and how it would be. I’ve always wanted that, always brainstormed it. With Halo 5, I’m seeing that. How competitive Halo 5 really can be, and how certain Spartan Abilities really can give Halo a new and fresh competitive edge. I always look at games like COD, seeing every game being basically the same. Black Ops 3 being LITERALLY the same damn thing as Advanced Warfare? CS: GO always looking the same, and I wonder why people always want that and that is because those communities are different. Those communities are used to seeing the same thing. They are used to playing those games the same way. But that’s not how Halo is and it’s also where unlike those communities, theres a divide in the Halo community. But it hasn’t really started with Halo 2 or Halo 3. Really it started with Reach and further when Bungie passed on Halo to 343. In the Halo community now. theres old fans that were with Bungie like myself, that also respect 343 very much or very little. Then theres the new fans that are loyal to 343. Theres people that are too used to how the old Halo games played and want Halo 5 to be just like that. Though that’s not how Halo has ever been. It’s never been like CS: GO or COD. It’s always changing, and it’s going to change whether you or me like it or not. You speak with your voice or your wallet, or even your interest in Halo. The old Halo is not coming back fully, it never will come back fully. The spirit of old Halo is still there, though it’s being reborn into something new, and possibly exciting. Halo 5, and Halo 4 won’t ever change the way the old Halo’s played, not even Reach. But that Era, that’s in the past and it’s not coming anytime soon into the future because that’s not what Halo is. That Era of gameplay, it’s not enough, and yeah it can be changed into something good and I do believe that is with Halo 5 and why? If Halo 5 was Halo 4, then honestly I think it would have sold more. The Spartan Abilities, are very much more balanced and are actually more interesting then Halo 4’s AA’s. Then I see, a post on Facebook about Halo 5’s beta being compared to Halo 3 with player counts and stuff and I’m thinking…just why? Why compare old to new? What sense does it make? Has Halo changed completely from the old? It has and people judge Halo’s all the time, every Halo has been judged. But perhaps a new face is what Halo is going to have, and from the looks of Halo 5, it already does. Will it test 343, and will it test Halo’s sucess in this generations world, but of course. Will it change viewpoints on Halo all around, but of course. However in the end…

Perhaps this is something Halo does need and perhaps this is a new perspective that Halo can be viewed from.

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troll title and too long didnt read

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Quick side note: Consider breaking your big paragraphs into smaller one, by focus. It makes for easier reading and better understanding, and helps points flow more smoothly

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I came in here ready to slap some sense into you … but I saw you were being sarcastic … still kinda wanna slap you, though :stuck_out_tongue:

There are a lot of reasons for the discord among the fans ranging from nostalgia to differing ideas on what makes a game competitive to just plain personal preference. For me, I’m pretty casual, so as far as my personal preference goes, I’ve never played a bad Halo game. I’m also an older fan who’s began with CE, which is still my favorite, and am also a huge fan of Halo 4 and the Halo 5 beta, so take that for what it’s worth.

And this is just what happens when a franchise gets so old and makes changes over the years. Did you see that interview with Jamie & Marty from Bungie? They said to 343 that you will certainly fail if you try to go forward while only looking to the past. They told them to make the games they want to make and don’t be hindered by dated gameplay and mechanics.

The way I see it, by the end of the year we’ll have every Halo game on Xbox One (with backwards compatibility). We’ll have CE, H2C, H2A, H3, Halo Wars, ODST, Reach, H4, H5. There’s a lot of variety in there. And I love all those games. It would be boring and redundant if they all played the same (Halo Wars being the exception, of course).

Thing is, OP, for me, I like what I like and don’t care what others think. So good day to you, sir, and keep up the good fight. Whatever that is.

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I will agree with you to a point that the series has to change. What is interesting though is since the changing of the series it has been on decline…now you could say that is for a few reasons one being that the market is flooded with FPS games in general and good ones at that. I don’t know I enjoyed the beta, I enjoy the old formula I just want halo to be successful…and while it does sell well which I guess will keep them making games…the population declines suggest that maybe all this new stuff isn’t the answer. I guess I’m just playing devils advocate. The problem I see is we are used to halo having a LONG shelf life between games…and the players they are trying to attract (military shooter crowd) not naming names lol they have a short attention span for games in general. I want halo 3 times HUGE launch success. HUGE thriving population. Excellent machinima…thriving competitive scene. Awesome Forgers. I guess I just want everyone to love the series as much as I do haha…

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Ya look at blops 1, 2 and 3. Theyre the same game!! (Sarcasm)

I can tell you right now blops 3 will be the least popular of the 3. Why? Because they changed it too much.

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> I came in here ready to slap some sens
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> And this is just what happens when a franchise gets so old and makes changes over the years. Did you see that interview with Jamie & Marty from Bungie? They said to 343 that you will certainly fail if you try to go forward while only looking to the past.

They’l also fail if they try to move forward while only looking sideways. Which is what they’ve done with h4 and h5.

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> I came in here ready to slap some sense into you … but I saw you were being sarcastic … still kinda wanna slap you, though :stuck_out_tongue:
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> There are a lot of reasons for the discord among the fans ranging from nostalgia to differing ideas on what makes a game competitive to just plain personal preference. For me, I’m pretty casual, so as far as my personal preference goes, I’ve never played a bad Halo game. I’m also an older fan who’s began with CE, which is still my favorite, and am also a huge fan of Halo 4 and the Halo 5 beta, so take that for what it’s worth.
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> And this is just what happens when a franchise gets so old and makes changes over the years. Did you see that interview with Jamie & Marty from Bungie? They said to 343 that you will certainly fail if you try to go forward while only looking to the past. They told them to make the games they want to make and don’t be hindered by dated gameplay and mechanics.
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> The way I see it, by the end of the year we’ll have every Halo game on Xbox One (with backwards compatibility). We’ll have CE, H2C, H2A, H3, Halo Wars, ODST, Reach, H4, H5. There’s a lot of variety in there. And I love all those games. It would be boring and redundant if they all played the same (Halo Wars being the exception, of course).
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> Thing is, OP, for me, I like what I like and don’t care what others think. So good day to you, sir, and keep up the good fight. Whatever that is.

I would like to slap you before you slap him for being sarcastic! Also your last sentence spelled things out for me. Thanks for putting it down, that way I don’t have to write it myself, although as I’m typing this, it would have probably been easier just to type it anyway

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good point man.

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They’ll be no slapping in this forum Mr Martini!
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> > I came in here ready to slap some sens
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> > And this is just what happens when a franchise gets so old and makes changes over the years. Did you see that interview with Jamie & Marty from Bungie? They said to 343 that you will certainly fail if you try to go forward while only looking to the past.
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> They’l also fail if they try to move forward while only looking sideways. Which is what they’ve done with h4 and h5.

Of course somebody had to make a comment like this, where he uses similar rhetoric to try to make an ironic point, but fails miserably because his post makes no sense.

Don’t try to be clever, it’s clearly not your thing.

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> They’ll be no slapping in this forum Mr Martini!
> :wink:

Why I outta …

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What part of Warzone makes people thing of Firefight? I see several people mention this but from the footage i saw the enemies dont do nothing and just stand there until you run to attack them.

Where exactly is the firefight in Warzone?

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> What part of Warzone makes people thing of Firefight? I see several people mention this but from the footage i saw the enemies dont do nothing and just stand there until you run to attack them.
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> Where exactly is the firefight in Warzone?

The AI enemies are, for the most part, holding down a base or an area you need to capture. They’re not going to hunt you down across the map. It’s more like a Spartan Ops/Invasion/BTB/Firefight … there are waves of AI enemies. Although I saw some footage with a Knight running around out in the open that wasn’t a boss, so maybe the enemies aren’t just standing there twiddling their thumbs waiting to be killed, because … why would they?

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> > > I came in here ready to slap some sens
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> > > And this is just what happens when a franchise gets so old and makes changes over the years. Did you see that interview with Jamie & Marty from Bungie? They said to 343 that you will certainly fail if you try to go forward while only looking to the past.
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> > They’l also fail if they try to move forward while only looking sideways. Which is what they’ve done with h4 and h5.
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> Of course somebody had to make a comment like this, where he uses similar rhetoric to try to make an ironic point, but fails miserably because his post makes no sense.
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> Don’t try to be clever, it’s clearly not your thing.

Who pissed in your cornflakes? Firstly, his post does make sense (not to say that I agree with him), and secondly, why are you being so condescending? You’re not even doing it for a valid reason.

OT: I’m liking how H5 is looking, and I hated H4. People might complain about the thrusters being in other franchises already, but it still doesn’t change the fact that it’s gonna add to the gameplay. Now the Spartan abilities worry me. Ground Pound still irritates me and I don’t like the idea of charge. Take my opinion with a grain of salt though, cos I haven’t played the beta and I don’t even own a current gen console. I’m looking to buy the H5 console edition when it comes out though. Hopefully it’ll be announced soon :slight_smile:

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There are too many clickbaits on these forums.

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Just managed to convince my main-wingman(halo 3 diehard, soul-destroyed by mcc, refused to buy halo 5) that he should buy halo 5 :smiley:

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> > Don’t try to be clever, it’s clearly not your thing.
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> Who pissed in your cornflakes? Firstly, his post does make sense (not to say that I agree with him), and secondly, why are you being so condescending? You’re not even doing it for a valid reason.
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> OT: I’m liking how H5 is looking, and I hated H4. People might complain about the thrusters being in other franchises already, but it still doesn’t change the fact that it’s gonna add to the gameplay. Now the Spartan abilities worry me. Ground Pound still irritates me and I don’t like the idea of charge. Take my opinion with a grain of salt though, cos I haven’t played the beta and I don’t even own a current gen console. I’m looking to buy the H5 console edition when it comes out though. Hopefully it’ll be announced soon :slight_smile:

I played it and it was horrendous. The abilities, including the thrusters, take away from the experience.

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Since Halo Combat Evolved, the game has changed, the core formula is still there since 2001, but even Halo 3 being the “perfect” Halo game, it had a lot of hate before launch, it’s true and I’m not talking about other people from different communities, but in this community. It sucks to see people giving a lot of hate for a game that even hasn’t come out and we don’t know as much from what we saw. The part of the community that believes Bungie should go back and make Halo games, even if they did, are they going to make a better job than 343i? I’m not reffering from what bungie did with Destiny, I mean if they got a contract from Microsoft to continue making Halo games they would be as epic or more than Halo 3?

Comparison you made with COD and CSGO is correct, I don’t like CSGO, it’s a very bland game, since the first one it didn’t change a thing (besides graphics of course), but I understand why they like it, it’s like how I like Halo. But Halo is a game since the first one it has changed, but the core gameplay is still there in every Halo game, from Halo CE to Halo 2, the melee system improved, you could dual wield, you can board enemy vehicles and the weapons improved. From Halo 2 to Halo 3 again the melee system improved, you had equipment like the bubbleshield, from Halo 3 to Halo Reach they switch from equipment to Armor Abilities, which you can use it all the time, from Halo Reach to Halo 4 sprint was a default ability, you won’t descoped when you get a hit and it was introduced custom loadouts into multiplayer, and now from Halo 4 to Halo 5 there were some major changes, instead of armor abilities you now have spartan abilities, in which everyone has them, Smart Scope, the same as zoom in the previous halos but now with an animation and all weapons have them, Thrusters, which can be used to dash from shots or give a boost, Stabilizer, when you’re using smart scope in the air, your suit stabilizes in mid air so you can hit your enemies, Slide, as the name says you slide in the ground, which can be used with a shotgun, Ground Pound is when you want to make a kill in style, you charge in mid air and bash the ground, anyone standing there get’s it’s shields down or if someone is in the center gets killed, and Charge, it’s just like a melee attack, if you go forward you take down his/hers shields, if you do it on their backs you do an insta kill, just like a normal melee. Even if Halo 5 had a lot of changes, it doesn’t change the fact that every Halo has changed.

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> I played it and it was horrendous. The abilities, including the thrusters, take away from the experience.

Na the abilities make the game, without them the game would just kind of be meh. From what I’ve seen so far without the abilities Halo 5 would just be Halo 2.5 and I don’t want that if I want to play Halo 2 I have the MCC.

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H5 is a generic shooter, I agree. Is a fact.