By Campers for Campers

Is it me or do the new maps appear to be designed for camping?
They all have nice little camp sites that snipers/campers ( Toilet Jockey’s ) can sit and wait for a player, even on the far side of the map to wonder in to site.
There’s way to many long long line of sights even the remake Hole maps been made bigger so even thats Campers heaven now!

I’ve played games CTF that have been tied because no one could get cross the map before a camper shot them same with Strong Hold they grab a base the hide on a potty sniping.

AND BEFORE you claim it’s all part of the game, then why bother with flags/bases and balls?

These maps need to be broken up map the stop long range campers!

Thinks its just you spartan!

Just TRIED to play a game … Campers !

Well I’ll be getting lots of ban hammers because these Camper maps are not what I play Halo for … I hate Toilet Jockey’s

I’d take a camper over a spawn killer any day because you easily know where the camper is and you can easily kill them right after. Also last I checked you don’t want to run someone down and try and kill them when you have a sniper.

I think there is a major difference between “camping” and “map control” that you’re not really making clear.

Camping is when you sit in an area in which the only way you can get attacked is from the front where you are constantly facing, usually close quarters. For example: a small room, a hallway, corners. Campers usually have some sort of close range power weapon. Example: sword, shotgun, rockets.

Map control is similar, but different. You can sit in one spot and control an area of a map, but it’s usually a large area in which you can usually be flanked. For example: on a hill over looking a base, in a tower, an elevated platform. You also usually have ranged weapons that are pretty useless in close quarters, and will either lead you to being killed, or having to switch to a secondary weapon which leaves you at a disadvantage. For example: any sniper, DMR, carbine, BR(depending on how you play, I am pretty bad close quarters with it, however some people are really good.)

So to answer your question using these definitions. No, I dont think they are camper friendly maps. There are areas that attract campers, but you can usually get at them pretty well. The bigger BTB maps are Map Control friendly maps, yes. But with a good team you can overcome this, or take advantage of it. Using your example of getting shot while capturing a flag. You would need someone to go out and “hunt” the other long range shooters. Or use the invisibility that are on some maps to sneak around into better positions. Or use the vehicles with passengers to move quickly across the map while having someone cover you. What you shouldn’t do is blindly run around watching your teammates drop dead in front of you and do nothing about it. It’s all about strategy

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> Just TRIED to play a game … Campers !
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> Well I’ll be getting lots of ban hammers because these Camper maps are not what I play Halo for … I hate Toilet Jockey’s

They are not “camper” maps - they are just maps, really nice ones too. Your problem is called bad luck, it comes in varying levels from minor to causing phsycotic outbursts bad. You seem to be having a long stream of it, instead of getting angry at the maps try taking a break from Halo for the day, try another game maybe for now. I do when I have really bad luck

IF they are sniping its called not being stupid.

I guess I’ll go first…

“Its a legitimate strategy!”

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> I guess I’ll go first…
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> “Its a legitimate strategy!”

Damn I was literally clicking on this thread just to put this here. haha

Hunt them down. It’s good fun.

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> I’d take a camper over a spawn killer any day because you easily know where the camper is and you can easily kill them right after. Also last I checked you don’t want to run someone down and try and kill them when you have a sniper.

Yeah, spawn killers are wayyy worst

A lot of run n’ gun types often mistake map control for camping.
I’d say preventing the other team from crossing the map and getting into your base is good map control. I’d also say not harassing the other team’s snipers while they’re in their perch is bad map control.

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> “Its a legitimate strategy!”

Haha! Yeah, but it really is!

Camping in this game is no different at all than camping in any other Halo game. Use your nades, scrub.

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Haha, sorry.

Campers Defending Campers Typical

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> Just TRIED to play a game … Campers !

Welcome to the world of the FPS genre mate.

I find it so ironic to see players complain about spartan charge/reduced radar and see other spartans complain about camping when spartan charge and a reduced radar are direct answers to a camping playstyle. Oh you just popped out of nowhere and got the first shot? Guess what I can tap melee while I’m sprinting and put you down when you pop out of nowhere. Oh you’ve been sitting in that spot for 30 seconds waiting for a walk by? Guess what I just came out of nowhere, spotted you with my eyeballs first, and dropped you in 3 lightrifle headshots before you could turn around.

The opinions in this community are soooooo divided.

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> Is it me or do the new maps appear to be designed for camping?
> They all have nice little camp sites that snipers/campers ( Toilet Jockey’s ) can sit and wait for a player, even on the far side of the map to wonder in to site.
> There’s way to many long long line of sights even the remake Hole maps been made bigger so even thats Campers heaven now!
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> I’ve played games CTF that have been tied because no one could get cross the map before a camper shot them same with Strong Hold they grab a base the hide on a potty sniping.
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> AND BEFORE you claim it’s all part of the game, then why bother with flags/bases and balls?
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> These maps need to be broken up map the stop long range campers!

If you know where someone is, when you respawn you can go back there and kill them. They shouldn’t get the drop on you again. As the saying goes - “fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me”.

Or as people here say - get good. It’s clearly you who needs to work on your game, don’t blame the maps.