Which is part of the issue. It is not valuable any more; or at least as valuable anymore by a significant margin.
I get what they’re going for, but I don’t much care for it. I’ll pick it up in ranked as a close quarters secondary to compliment the BR, but I ignore it in AR starts because the AR and Sidekick are both better weapons at the ideal range.
Bulldogs one of my favorite weapons in the game honestly…
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You just aren’t correct. It is an extremely valuable weapon.
ngl that’s just straight up incorrect.
Ideal range TTK of the AR if you get all the headshots you need is 1.25s. Body shots, no headshots, it’s 1.65s.
Bulldog has an optimal two shot kill TTK of 0.65s. If you do the usual three shot, it’s 0.97.5. The only time what you say is correct, is when you have to fire four times, resulting in 1.30s ttk. Then the AR with perfect accuracy (which is rare) is beating you.
If Gods forbid, you have to fire five times, it’s 1.62.5 Which… is still faster than the AR. So if you go up against an AR that has to body shot kill you and you have the bulldog, and you can’t kill him before six shots, then you really need to get good. Because that’s twice as many shots as you needed to reasonably kill him in the first place.
In short: You’re only right if you have absolutely wretched accuracy.
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wrong, the bulldog is so inconsistent that everything you just said is inaccurate. The bulldog is horribly random and it’s very rare that it is useful for anything other than a cleanup or a shot+melee combo
It’s important to note that you liking the weapon and it potentially being good are two independent things
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Bro idk what you’re talking about. Bulldog has an insanely fast reload. You’ve obviously never played any of the previous halo games because those shotguns took a pregnant woman’s trimester to fully load.
The new shotgun doesn’t do anything to someone with a sword. That was the whole halo meta for years now. It was a great way to balance weapons on the map. The old shotgun would counter the sword.
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I really do not understand how you can see the math and just go “NAOHP, NOPE NAOT TRUE” but go off I guess?
It’s a weak piece of trash. Players usually choose other weapons over it. Just like the plasma pistol…
O no I just thought of something is the bulldog the reason there no zombies yet?
Bulldog is bad compared to older shotguns. The sword has no counter anymore. If I have the bulldog and see a heatwave I drop it every time.
Because on paper you’re right, but in game is what matters. And in game the scenario you describe is very rare where it outshoots an AR or Sidekick
I’m suggesting we get a shotguns only playlist event, call it “Dog Town” and we can all blast each others faces off. 
As long as I get a heatwave and not a bulldog I’m down
…Definitely not.
I thought you wanted to stop engaging with me lol.
Use a Repulsor. Best counter the sword’s ever had as it allows any gun to take 'em down.
Uh. Sure. It’s not like I’m talking from experience or anything. Literally my preferred non starting weapon.
Well according to half the replies nobody could get any kills.
once again, if you like it that’s great
But liking a weapon because its fun to use and liking a weapon because its powerful are two different things. I’ve always liked the Plasma Rifle, conceptually…but in most Halos it’s trash tier.
the shotgun of infinite, because of halo’s gameplay, is kinda annoying. takes two to kill, like the old shotgun, but not because of not all the pellets hitting, but because of less damage. also the range of the bulldog is so annoying, practically mid range kills can happen FOR A SHOTGUN. it makes sense as a trade off, less damage for more accuracy, but good god is it annoying
Yea it ain’t bad but it’s not the Shotgun people want.
The Shotgun people wanted was a close quarters weapon that did its job and did it well, that’s all it needed to ever be.
Bulldog looks to me to be entirely designed for PvP which is cool and all, but I don’t see the charm of it and would like the old Shotgun added anyways for all the good it has done over the years of Halo.
Lmfao “obviously never played any previous Halo” okay kid.
You obviously don’t understand how reloading one shell when you need it is much much much faster than reloading the entire drum of the bulldog when you need it. Time it out.
I-it literally is powerful. I have shown you how. You have got to be pulling my leg.
Old shotgun is overrated. All it ever did was save you pushing B another time. The Bulldog can open and close engagements at AR range.