Change my mind.
Hardly ever loads.
Maps: eh.
No BR start.
Radar: Trash.
Just. Not. Fun.
2 Likes
- That’s a server problem, not the mode.
- Needs more maps yes, but the ones there are good, fragmentation is prob one of the best blood gulch successors
- Good, it should never be
- This is a game wide problem, not only btb, it would be confusing to bump the radar to 25 here but not in arena
REAL problems:
-Party not in squad
-Few Vehicle spawns
-Asymmetric vehicle drops
-General lack of vehicle balance (hp and killing power)
-Total Control Stalemates
-Etc.
Did you think before writing this post?
Well when it worked (before December 8th IIRC) it was easily the best BTB mode I have played in a very long time.
Its closest to Halo 4’s BTB (which isn’t a bad thing) in the sense of it having some randomness within it, but the key difference I feel that seperates Infinite from other BTB’s is that its actually well designed.
Vehicles are not stupidly OP so getting inside of a Warthog or a Banshee will not give you running riots, you can (and probably will) be punished for not using your vehicle well. Every single weapon can melt vehicles and I absolutely love that because to me BTB in all the other Halo games is just a story of the haves and the have nots. One team would get like a Gauss Hog and a Banshee, and control the Spartan Laser and you pretty much just lose. I remember having one match months ago where our team was like 100 kills to the enemy teams 10… That kind of absolute beatdown in Infinite is almost impossible because the game gives counters and outplays to almost anything so unless you have somebody going insane with a Sniper games feel very even and just have a more enjoyable vibe to them.
The most common complaint that I hear is that BTB isn’t vehicle spamfest anymore and because of that its no longer fun and I just don’t agree with that. Highpower has tons of vehicles, whereas Deadlock/Fragmentation are far more focused on spartan v spartan gameplay. Its real issues that I experience are that the mode needs more maps.
I can tolerate BTB but only because of one map where I know there is usually a BR consistently available.
Stockpile is also an interesting idea that works, just as long as your teammates aren’t completely lost on what they should be doing or the strategies that work well.
You forgot about how rare it is to come across heavy vehicles.
BTB has and remains my Number 1 game mode in the entirety of the Halo franchise, all the way back on CE PC when we had 16 player servers and all I played was Blood Gulch and Sidewinder with a helping of Timberland and Infinity.
If there was ever a BTB that I hated it was Halo 5’s. The Forge-created maps were the visual equivalent of fighting in inflatable playgrounds with terrible spawns while maps like Basin, Dispelled, or their recreations of old Halo maps were either boring or just terrible all around.
Thus, I loved Infinite’s return to BTB with a vengeance as soon as I played the BTB Flight. Fragmentation easily became my favorite map with additions like loot caves and the Pelican/Ordnance drops adding to the experience for me. Not to mention the increase from 8v8 to 12v12. Its quickly become an iconic map for me much like Blood Gulch and Valhalla. While Deadlock and Highpower weren’t as good, I eventually came around to liking them although Highpower is my least favorite. I do want more maps and obviously we’ll get them and I can wait for them.
At the moment the current loading problems is a server issue. It was working fine for me before and even with the current struggles, I am still more than willing to wait through the couple minutes it takes to fight the current issues to get into a game. I just love the mode that much and have that much fun playing it.
Unless its Stockpile. I do admit to not liking Stockpile. I still have good games on it sometimes but like everyone else picking up and tossing Power Seeds over and over again back to your base is not what I call fun. But Total Control, Big Team Slayer, CTF - I love 'em.
AR Starts are completely fine and I much prefer it over the days where I’d play BTB on Valhalla/Ragnarok where I would never pick up any other weapon ever save for a Sniper Rifle or Spartan Laser because I have the BR where I can already just shoot halfway across the map anyway and all I have to do is duck behind the rock I’m going to be stuck to for the entire game and not die. AR starts get people into the fights, especially objective games like Total Control and Stockpile and I just love the firefights I can have with the AR being good enough to trade bursts of gunfire while tossing grenades and switching to the Sidekick when needed. I see a wider variety of weapons being picked up and used because of this and with there being plenty of Weapon Pads to spawn BRs or other alternatives (Stalker, Shock Rifle, Commando, etc.), you can easily swap out the AR for something better or, in case you are unable to, you still have a weapon that can be effective as long as you play to its strengths.
The Motion Sensor right now I do find inadequate and want 343 to increase the range. They increased it before after getting feedback from the Flights and I hope that further feedback will get them to increase it again. Right now it does seem to be a very universal complaint and hope they’ve been listening during their holiday break. If not…I still enjoy BTB and will keep playing it even with the state of the Motion Sensor.
I suspect vehicles will be adjusted as well. I think they spawned much more often in the Flight and if so they should return to those spawn times with some adjustments to the vehicle inventory as well: Gungooses should not be a vehicle being dropped by Pelicans while the rarer vehicles like Wraiths and Scorpions need to be bumped up.
BTB can definitely use more maps and these suggested tweaks as well as a couple more, but in general I just love having a new BTB that I enjoy so much.
This sounds familiar. 
I just don’t like control total, I prefer the old good stronghold
I also want to separate BTB slayer from BTB objectives, I hate to play in slayer
Hardly ever loads - It actually loads now so maybe this is your end
Maps - we’ve been playing the same map for almost 3 months now, every map is eh to me tbh
No BR start - okay this is just a nitpick now. I don’t mind the option for precision starts but cmon, this is not a good reason period.
Radar - Radar is Trash for every single mode dude
Just. Not. Fun. - Infinite MP in general is just not fun. Come play MCC, kthnxbye