BTB Radar change…is this what 343 thinks we want?

I have seen multiple threads on the radar range though it’s not limited to just BTB but social in general. I’m assuming it was added in because it’s probably an easy fix.

But I agree they still seem to be clueless on what the community is asking for. Especially on the gameplay side. Them adding in telemetry to gather data on desync just means they have zero idea what’s causing the issue truly. We still have broken inconsistent aiming mechanics and aim assist. Game still crashes for lots of people, etc… etc….

Also I loved the part about them making new changes to their anti-cheat system. Like what system? Infinite has zero anti-cheat otherwise we wouldn’t have an issue with cheating this rampant in the first place.

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They sent the update for certification. So at that point it’s with the Xbox Store team and unless it fails certification (which would delay it) they know everything that is and isn’t contained in the build they submitted.

As to the thread more general. There’s quite a few other things being mentioned in the update (like Networking which arguably is the most talked about topic and anti-cheat - also a quite frequent topic).

BTB need base weapon spawns mirrored!..
Surly this would take someone at 343 less than a afternoon to sort.
Don’t even think this would need a patch to implement.

Really glad they’re doing this actually. Hopefully they look at it in other modes too.

HELL YES THIS IS WHAT I’VE WANTED EVER SINCE THE FLIGHT!

Yeah, its such a minor thing compared to everything else that needs to be done BUT BOY DO I WANT THIS!

Will see how the increase really goes once its implemented and I can try it out for myself.

The crucial point here and one that 343 should really take on board is that they are now changing back something that they say is a result of feedback, but they introduced it into the game without warning, without huge demand and without it being broken. In other words stop changing the game to what you think the community wants or what you think will improve things. This has been your biggest mistake in the reclaimer trilogy. I understand the need for change, improvements, new ideas but these should be offered to the community, tried out in beta and thoroughly tested before being included at launch. It makes things look so scuffed and time wasted on things that didn’t need to be fixed.

If by everywhere, you mean back during the technical previews when their radar changes were first made known, then sure… There were a bunch of complaints… Both about the range and that it was only activated when sprinting or shooting.

However, these complaints weren’t specific to BTB. 343 did change the radar to be activated at normal movement and increased the range from 15 to 18. Most people gave up on getting them to change it any further.

To say there have been people complaining about it everywhere since those changes were made is disingenuous. That is why for most of us that have been around since at least the technical previews, we are a little confused by this response to “feedback” because we just aren’t seeing that feedback anymore.

But there are other areas of feedback that do show up quite often that 343 seems to ignore.

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The fact that no one really complaining about a re join option for rank is beyond me :upside_down_face: lol is being 5 halos and still nothing like commong guys radas we talking about radar talk about this we actually need like offline halo for customs with spiltcreen wity friend old sistem link with out the requirement of internet … common u can do better on the forums … actually things we need lol

The reason we don’t see this in many posts is that we all stopped playing BTB in December. 3 months later… who cares… so that’s why it was changed!

It actually is (part of) what people want. The Radar in this game is atrocious and it was changed for no reason. Someone can be on your back riding you like a horse and you legitimately wouldn’t even know due to the atrocious Radar as well as the atrocious audio.

However… it was feedback brought up MANY months ago during the Tech Test’s (as was many other issues that still haven’t been addressed), so they get no points for changing it now.

At the rate they’re currently going, I reckon the game might be fun in about 5 years.

I’m going to tell you now I’m one of those people that have complained about the small radar size and I’m not a 343 fanboi. But THANK GOD!!!

IM SO SICK OF THE SMALL RADAR.

We live in rural Australia. My Dad thinks that could be adding to our problems, but the MP part of Infinite is extremely broken for us. I have noticed very bad problems with melee, sword, rocket launcher and gravity hammer. We get ‘skipping’, the screen ‘freezing’ for a second or two, shots not registering and quite a few other problems, that I see mentioned a LOT, in these forums.

It’s quite amazing isnt it.

Knowing what the issues are, the constant, empty, well-worded platitiudes are becoming increasingly embarassing and disappointing.

It’s very hard to understand. They must be aware and so the silence and lack of progress on certain things must be a corporate issue.

There’s no way its bad due to incompetence.

Right???

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100% agree, this was really noticeable on Deadlock in a recent match I played. Two BR spawns for the enemy team base, and Commando’s on my team’s side. Not fun, or even remotely fair. They will hopefully address this.

The bigger question for me is whether a radar change or mirrored weapon spawn really is that hard to impliment in this game. In Halo CE, radar range was a toggle. This being a highlight of their Mid Season update is worrisome.

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I agree on the mirroring of weapons. I’d also extend it to Vehicle drops too.

I was just in a BTB match that we were losing and the enemy team got the Scorpion and a Wraith drop. I think we got a Razor back and i never saw another vehicle (maybe they blew it up). Al our weapon and grenade wracks were empty, so trying to kill Heavy vehicles with an AR and a Pistol was pretty futile.

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i mean… the radar in ANY gamemode is useless. shuold’ve been a change across the board, not just BTB…
that being said, it is such a minor thing compared to everything else… what a joke

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Personally I just don’t get why they’re doing it to only BTB… I do see a ton of complaints about radar, but I’ve never seen anyone complaining about it in BTB specifically. Players dislike the terrible radar in all modes, and I’d argue it’s more problematic in Arena where there’s tight corners that you can’t see around, which caters to players with nice headsets and quiet houses who can hear footsteps since the radar is ineffective.

Whoever decided at @343 that BTB was the only place that needed a radar fix definitely isn’t paying attention to community feedback.

BTB absolutely needed it’s radar range increased. The should have done it in all the playlists though.

Let’s just add the loadout system back in so that we can spawn with armor mods like active camo, and then set the radar to whatever Halo 4 had. Problem solved.