As much as I love playing BTB in Halo 5, I hate playing in a party of randoms vs. a Spartan Company. These kind of matches always devolve into people on your team quitting, spawn kills, and the enemy team having complete control over a map due to superior team communication. I never quit matches, but in the end it turns into a cruel cat and mouse game, and that’s never fun. As a solo player, this is certainly a biased opinion,and though i know that getting matched up with Companies doesn’t happen often, and I’m likely repeating someone else’s complaints, but it still kills any fun for solo matchmaking.
hey can i please join your halo 5 spartan companies i am level 80
Yes matching full fireteams does seem to have become a problem after Warzone was reduced to 6 players. There’s not really anything we can do at this point. I think once they figure out the Warzone situation the BTB situation should die down.
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> Yes matching full fireteams does seem to have become a problem after Warzone was reduced to 6 players. There’s not really anything we can do at this point. I think once they figure out the Warzone situation the BTB situation should die down.
Hit the nail on the head. 343’s to blame for it. They need to open WZ back to 12, then btb won’t be so bad then.
Isn’t that what Warlords is for? They haven’t brought it back yet though.
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> Isn’t that what Warlords is for? They haven’t brought it back yet though.
The reason its not back is because of no population. Companies are usually only going in with 8-10 people and a couple randoms. We usually had a team of 12, but only 8-10 of us in the same company. We played it a bunch and it too FOREVER to get a game. Games were matched well and fun, but it wasn’t worth the time searching. They just need to make it party size 12 in WZ again.
I think people/players forget the fact that people have been getting farmed/spawn trapped since H2. Its just nowadays its easier to complain and be heard. I know getting farmed/spawn trapped sucks…then stay out of the 8+party size playlist then.
FYI: We are one of the companies trapping and destroying in BTB/WZ. I’m not sorry…get a team and play.
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> I think people/players forget the fact that people have been getting farmed/spawn trapped since H2. Its just nowadays its easier to complain and be heard. I know getting farmed/spawn trapped sucks…then stay out of the 8+party size playlist then.
I agree about the since H2 statement, but it kind of feels worse in H5 since there are less people which means you’re going to run into the same parties more often. 343’s matching system is also pretty terrible for social so the games against full parties are severely lopsided.
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> > I think people/players forget the fact that people have been getting farmed/spawn trapped since H2. Its just nowadays its easier to complain and be heard. I know getting farmed/spawn trapped sucks…then stay out of the 8+party size playlist then.
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> I agree about the since H2 statement, but it kind of feels worse in H5 since there are less people which means you’re going to run into the same parties more often. 343’s matching system is also pretty terrible for social so the games against full parties are severely lopsided.
I agree. Its an issue 343 doesn’t care to talk about or even try to fix. I don’t feel for players who -Yoinked!- about WZ farming/Quick-core, then say BTB is now unplayable. They did it to themselves. They have no one to blame but themselves. If they want it back, 343 needs to make it 12 in WZ again so teams can play together again.
Going into BTB, I expect going against Companies, but not at a rate like this. I play regular 4v4 playlists but I also like going into BTB for the sake of more chaotic matches, not getting steamrolled against impossible odds. It’s always been a problem in many Halo games, and Warzone was kind of the right direction to rectify it, so two teams of players can test their teamwork and skill against each other. The main reason I suggested a different playlist is so that they can go against other Companies instead of a team of randoms who have little to no chance. I don’t mind losing a match once to a enemy Company, but 3-4 times against a different team or even the same team on the same day is a little much.
The solution is very simple. Just play with a team.
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> As much as I love playing BTB in Halo 5, I hate playing in a party of randoms vs. a Spartan Company. These kind of matches always devolve into people on your team quitting, spawn kills, and the enemy team having complete control over a map due to superior team communication. I never quit matches, but in the end it turns into a cruel cat and mouse game, and that’s never fun. As a solo player, this is certainly a biased opinion,and though i know that getting matched up with Companies doesn’t happen often, and I’m likely repeating someone else’s complaints, but it still kills any fun for solo matchmaking.
Totally agree, it´s really annoying. There should be a 4 player fire team cap in BTB. If you have more players in a fire team go play WZ (6 players) or customs. Skirmish should also have a player cap - if you have 4 players go play ranked or BTB.
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> The solution is very simple. Just play with a team.
Like I said, I’m a solo player, if i did that, it would only make it worse for someone else, and nothing would change.
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> > As much as I love playing BTB in Halo 5, I hate playing in a party of randoms vs. a Spartan Company. These kind of matches always devolve into people on your team quitting, spawn kills, and the enemy team having complete control over a map due to superior team communication. I never quit matches, but in the end it turns into a cruel cat and mouse game, and that’s never fun. As a solo player, this is certainly a biased opinion,and though i know that getting matched up with Companies doesn’t happen often, and I’m likely repeating someone else’s complaints, but it still kills any fun for solo matchmaking.
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> Totally agree, it´s really annoying. There should be a 4 player fire team cap in BTB. If you have more players in a fire team go play WZ (6 players) or customs. Skirmish should also have a player cap - if you have 4 players go play ranked or BTB.
I agree, there should be a 4-player limit but also a separate playlist for full team BTB.
Maybe if BTB made money like Warzone then changing things to make people happy would be a priority, but I don’t see that happening. Menke mentioned that he was working on something with social and parties, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
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> Maybe if BTB made money like Warzone then changing things to make people happy would be a priority, but I don’t see that happening. Menke mentioned that he was working on something with social and parties, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
Yeah, It’s completely wishful thinking at this point. BTB is pretty barren on map variety and objectives, so hopefully something changes soon with how multiplayer works. I can imagine Warzone gets boring after a while and the teams move to BTB for something else.
I personally don’t think BTB would get a full team playlist treatment. sure many people play BTB but the main issue was warzone as people were complaining for months until 343 made fireteam restrictions. I’ve faced full teams on warzone and BTB and its honestly not that big of an issue as some companies who play on a full team doesn’t mean they will win every game. I’ve had really bad games but some you can actually wreck the entire team on your own by doing call outs and focusing on objectives rather than being scared to other people. sure the solution might be getting a team to play with but many people play solo like i do. some companies do this just to give you a hard time (HC Raven Rages) and others just get straight to objectives and or quick win/core.
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> I personally don’t think BTB would get a full team playlist treatment. sure many people play BTB but the main issue was warzone as people were complaining for months until 343 made fireteam restrictions. I’ve faced full teams on warzone and BTB and its honestly not that big of an issue as some companies who play on a full team doesn’t mean they will win every game. I’ve had really bad games but some you can actually wreck the entire team on your own by doing call outs and focusing on objectives rather than being scared to other people. sure the solution might be getting a team to play with but many people play solo like i do. some companies do this just to give you a hard time (HC Raven Rages) and others just get straight to objectives and or quick win/core.
The problems I have when it happens is quick control of objectives and power weapons and vehicles, I’ve gone against ExO Delta and other teams devoted to BTB, and there’s little to no chance to fight back. You can do your best, but everyone else likely can’t respond as fast when it’s casual vs. competitive teams.
Big team battle…this means it is for large groups. Maybe they could make a playlist for you called random battle.
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> Big team battle…this means it is for large groups.
It doesn’t mean everyone who plays BTB plays in fireteams…
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> > Big team battle…this means it is for large groups.
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> It doesn’t mean everyone who plays BTB plays in fireteams…
It means that is where teams of 8 can go and play, always has. Everyone complained until they changed btb from ranked to social, this is the result.
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> It means that is where teams of 8 can go and play, always has. Everyone complained until they changed btb from ranked to social, this is the result.
Yes, that’s true, but there’s a huge skill gap when it’s the only BTB playlist available, and with the the way the matchmaking system finds players, it’s a mess at this point. Like I said, while BTB is is not always fair, it makes it close to impossible when pit against Companies.