Meander, Panic Attack, Voyager, Ancestor, Boulevard, Fracture, Guillotine, Port Authority, Scavenger, Traffic Jam should all be removed. I like most of these maps but some of them just look bad like Port Authority, Traffic Jam , Guillotine and Fracture.Big maps with open world out door areas are my favorite for BTB.
There are so many Forge maps, it shouldn’t take much time for the devs to add 10 new maps in a rotation every 3 or 4 months, then replacing the 10 new ones they add with 10 other new ones. (but keeping Risen, Viking, Dead Heat, Dispelled, Crossbow, Fossil, Hinterlands, Pioneer, Echos and Entombed)
They could also add a different set of 10 maps to the big team super fiesta playlist.
You should just be happy BTB isn’t rotational by now. They already did a lot for BTB like making it ranked for a time and then adding new maps, but it only helped in the short term. What I think hurt BTB was the lack of weapon tuning, sticking with the default BR, bad maps and gametypes which didn’t get any adjustments and dedicated parties probably helped kill the playlist as well. I don’t think adding maps will help things at this point.
They still won’t add more maps. I know they are in development hell with Halo Infinite but finding and adding Forge maps every 3 or 4 months for BTB to the playlist should not be a time consuming task.
In my opinion Warzone is the evolved version of BTB, so i don’t play nothing else but warzone, but of course if you want more maps, we should make more maps for BTB, but it’s not like everyone can do a perfect balanced map for BTB, also i see more interest from the community to make maps from ranked playlists and not for BTB.
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> In my opinion Warzone is the evolved version of BTB, so i don’t play nothing else but warzone, but of course if you want more maps, we should make more maps for BTB, but it’s not like everyone can do a perfect balanced map for BTB, also i see more interest from the community to make maps from ranked playlists and not for BTB.
The point is more people would play BTB if it had more maps. There are thousands of forge maps, there must be many that are good for BTB.
Meander, Panic Attack, Voyager, Ancestor, Boulevard, Fracture, Guillotine, Port Authority, Scavenger, Traffic Jam should all be removed. I like most of these maps but some of them just look bad like Traffic Jam , Guillotine and Fracture.
Big maps with open world out door areas are my favorite for BTB. That is why I didn’t put the rest of the maps in this list.
There are so many Forge maps, it shouldn’t take much time for the devs to add 10 new maps in a rotation every 4 months, then replacing the 10 new ones they add with 10 other new ones. (but keeping Viking, Dead Heat, Dispelled, Crossbow, Fossil, Hinterlands, Pioneer, Echos and Entombed)
No one cares about this? New maps in BTB would be great, too bad they don’t add any. It’s not like they have to develop any, they just need to find good Forge maps.
Unfortunately I do not foresee another BTB refreshing in Halo 5s future, especially since all eyes are on 343 to launch a flawless Halo Infinite and complete the MCC. While you may think refreshing a playlist is as easy as swapping out maps, you would be surprised at how much time it takes to build a map that is up to Matchmaking standards and then playtest it enough to make sure it is still fun to play months later. Not to mention that the 2019 BTB refresh took months of hard work and was community led with just a handful of 343 employees helping the forge and pro-player community with feedback and giving the stamp of approval.
Since you seems pretty passionate about another refresh it may be better for you to get involved and a great place to start would be to find 15+ maps that you find would be worthy of replacing some of the maps you mentioned. Then getting feedback from the community to which would be a great addition to matchmaking. On the flip side, also keep in mind that everyone has different tastes and preferences so you’ll have to be unbiased on what maps to replace.
Just off top of my head, a couple things to look for when searching for new BTB maps:
Performance, is the map optimized enough to run at 60fps with 16 players.
Balance, is the map balanced well so that one team doesn’t have an advantage over the other. Take in consideration you may have pro/casual matchups!
Scale, can actively support 16 players without instant spawn kills and not too big so it doesn’t become a game of hide and seek.
Weapon and Vehicles, do they use standards matchmaking timers and do they work with the environment.
Lighting, does the map have proper lighting. This also impacts performance.
Spawning, name volumes, kill barriers, weapon pad locations, z-fighting, modern-visuals, etc…
And most importantly, is it fun even after playing it for countless hours.
Good luck OP! I would love to see a new BTB refresh.
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> Unfortunately I do not foresee another BTB refreshing in Halo 5s future, especially since all eyes are on 343 to launch a flawless Halo Infinite and complete the MCC. While you may think refreshing a playlist is as easy as swapping out maps, you would be surprised at how much time it takes to build a map that is up to Matchmaking standards and then playtest it enough to make sure it is still fun to play months later. Not to mention that the 2019 BTB refresh took months of hard work and was community led with just a handful of 343 employees helping the forge and pro-player community with feedback and giving the stamp of approval.
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> Since you seems pretty passionate about another refresh it may be better for you to get involved and a great place to start would be to find 15+ maps that you find would be worthy of replacing some of the maps you mentioned. Then getting feedback from the community to which would be a great addition to matchmaking. On the flip side, also keep in mind that everyone has different tastes and preferences so you’ll have to be unbiased on what maps to replace.
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> Just off top of my head, a couple things to look for when searching for new BTB maps:
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> - Performance, is the map optimized enough to run at 60fps with 16 players.
> - Balance, is the map balanced well so that one team doesn’t have an advantage over the other. Take in consideration you may have pro/casual matchups!
> - Scale, can actively support 16 players without instant spawn kills and not too big so it doesn’t become a game of hide and seek.
> - Weapon and Vehicles, do they use standards matchmaking timers and do they work with the environment.
> - Lighting, does the map have proper lighting. This also impacts performance.
> - Spawning, name volumes, kill barriers, weapon pad locations, z-fighting, modern-visuals, etc…
> - And most importantly, is it fun even after playing it for countless hours.
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> Good luck OP! I would love to see a new BTB refresh.
I don’t know if I wanna go find maps. 343 should make a news announcement about it and ask the community to submit maps they want for BTB, then they can be tested and added after that.
BTB is one of my favorite playlists. I think that some of the maps need to be rebalanced to revive BTB. There have been a lot of instances where I respawn in the path of a boosting ghost, a few enemy players that happened to cross my spawn, or just spawn with the enemy team. A few maps, despite being BTB maps, feel cramped and confined, though that might just be me.
343 should add more maps, it has been so long, it’s really bad that we don’t get to see great new forge maps more often in the BTB playlists, there are so many.
The BTB playlist was doing great in the lead up to and immediate time after Infinite’s campaign reveal. When the community was feeling hyped, the playlist was doing well. Hopefully that returns when we start getting more Infinite hype again.
I wouldn’t mind if they just returned every map that’s made it into the BTB playlist over the course of the game at this point. I think there are some from the beginning of the games life that aren’t in rotation anymore. Just keep out the 2-3 that had really bad map exploits.
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> The BTB playlist was doing great in the lead up to and immediate time after Infinite’s campaign reveal. When the community was feeling hyped, the playlist was doing well. Hopefully that returns when we start getting more Infinite hype again.
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> I wouldn’t mind if they just returned every map that’s made it into the BTB playlist over the course of the game at this point. I think there are some from the beginning of the games life that aren’t in rotation anymore. Just keep out the 2-3 that had really bad map exploits.
They need to add more maps ASAP and remove some, I notice games often have the same people and are not full with the BTB playlist. Adding new maps will change this.