Btb needs a map with a wraith!

One wraith on complex. Two on Rag. One on Ravine/Settler. One or two on Exile. Tell me who i have to Sleep with around here to make that so, and I’ll do it.

Can i get an “amen” my brothers and sisters!?

Thank you. That is all.

AMEN! 2 on Ragnarok FTW!

My first choice as well. How awesome would that be!!!

Having two wraiths instead of Mantis’, at least temporarily, would add excitement to a awesome game of CTF :slight_smile:

It would be really awesome to see 2 wraiths on Ragnarok, because I don’t think there are any multiplayer maps that have at least 1 wraith. It would give more fun to basically almost any playlist!

actually, i might remember that a long long time ago there was a wraith
on exile…but i might be mistaken

I’d prefer 2 wraiths on Ragnarok if they replace the mantises which are horrible vehicles.

It’d be schweet to fire wraith mortars from base to base on Ragnarok!

Wraith FTW ! They are my favorite thing in Halo Reach, and they are not so OP like the Mantis, amen my brother !

Thanks for the replies. And Attention any 343 Mods/Employees: Im not complaining. I really enjoy BTB, my fav playlist by far. But the original vehicle layout had 1 Scorpion on Exile and 1 Wraith on Vortex and when we shuffled a bit a few months back we lost the Scorpion on Exile but GOT 2 of them on Longbow. We lost the Wraith on Vortex and got it…NOWHERE. The Wraith is tremendously fun. Please bring it back SOMEWHERE!

I don’t play BTB much, mainly because of the lack of exciting gameplay that made BTB in past titles. The vehicle combat is short lived and the long range combat is boring. That however is best discussed in a different thread.

However what drove me away initially was the lack in variety. I loved BTB in Reach. Sure Armor Lock, Active Camo and bloom was a thing, but that aside, I think Bungie/343 found the perfect balanced of vehicle and on foot combat which was playable on plenty of maps. I think there are over 30 maps in that playlist ( including edited versions of on disc maps e.g Cragmire ). Halo 4 has one forge map in BTB being Setler, being the worst map in matchmaking. If 343 added some cool forge maps with space for vehicles such as wraiths to maneuver, I would defiantly come back.

The problem is that the BTB maps in matchmaking clearly weren’t designed well with vehicles in mind. No point trying to squeeze Wraiths onto maps like Complex ( which is a terrible idea btw :wink: ) when the playlist could really do with some quality forge maps anyway. I’m amazed at how little attention BTB actually gets compared to other playlists considering its the most played playlist. I just can’t call moving the vehicles around ( into even worse positions ) an update. Both SWAT and BTB are yet to see any worthwhile change despite being the most played playlists (par Team Slayer).

I just don’t get how 343 work with TheHaloForgeEpedemic ( who have featured plenty of great BTB maps ) yet don’t put anything featured on their channel in matchmaking. I guess because BTB is the go to split screen playlist, they are quite reluctant to put forge maps in.

Hey, m Zealous, thx for the reply. Im interested in why you think a wraith on complex would be a bad idea. Ive never played with such, but i cant see a position for the wraith to dominate from, therefore the demand on the operator to move/ shoot/ play well remains constant and high. I could be wrong, but id like to hear more of your thoughts…

> Tell me who i have to Sleep with around here to make that so, and I’ll do it.

Every Matchmaking playlist has an official feedback thread in the “War Games Feedback” section of the forums. Posting in BTB’s thread should increase the chances of your feedback being seen.