BTB needs a map change. Really fast and badly

Can someone explain to me why out of more then 30+ BTB games in the last several weeks (since the update) I have seen Ragnarok only ONE (Curse Word Here) TIME!

Yet someone I see Complex 2/3 votes? Every vote is

>Vortex
>Meltdown
>Complex

or

>Complex
>Meltdown
>Complex

(Just saw that today)

or

>Settler
>Meltdown
>Vortex

First off
1-Where is Ragnorok. Ive played it ONE TIME since the update in BTB. It’s a BTB map, why is it never showing up

2-Wheres exile, I barely play that, a little more but my god its like it was taken off.

3-Where’s the Erosion BTB map that comes with the game. It has vehicles, its big enough for 8 v 8

4-Can we get some forged BTB maps sometime?

5-WHY IS COMPLEX HAVE MORE WEIGHT IN MM THEN RAG, EXILE OR MOST MAPS

I’m just hoping Big Team Skirmish has better maps. I doubt I will be playing Slayer much once it comes out.

I play complex once ever few rotations which in all honesty is great in BTB.

Ever. Other. Game. Is. SETTLER. Or. VORTEX.

Ragnarok or Exile? What are those? /sarcasm
Since the update I’ve literally played each ONCE. Someone F’ed up BIG with the rotation weight. No idea why it takes a month to fix. Oh, wait, it’s 343.

god knows why it takes them so long to do anything!

~usually the community says you know what would make map x better, a SL instead of a Railgun at location y, 343 response add FRG, RL, Nukes, ODST’s etc and spam over the map

Thats way it takes so long!!

I’ve seen a lot of Settler and Complex. I can’t recall seeing that other map you talk about ever in MM, Erosion? Saw it on disc once and I’ve never understood why it isn’t in MM.

I came here to ask the same thing. What happened to Exile?? Where are the tanks? Where’s the banshees? Wraith?

> I came here to ask the same thing. What happened to Exile?? Where are the tanks? Where’s the banshees? Wraith?

I hear that there are Scorpions on Longbow, but that seems to have like a 1% chance of getting into the voting options. I haven’t seen Longbow in BTB for a over a month. I guess that’s my luck for ya. There’s a Banshee on Vortex now.

You can get lots of Banshees and Wraiths in Dominion though.

I just played ragnarok and can confirm it’s existence.

I think it may only be available at certain times of the day and if the Halo gods allow it.

Im not getting my hopes up, but maybe with the next update 343 will increase the weighting just a little bit.

All three of the maps that were almost completely removed from rotation were literally the ones I liked the most.

Agree with OP. More variation, please! As a Warthog turret guy, I am in a depression right now. Why have 343 destroyed Longbow? It was one of the good ones for the hog! Even with a gauss, it was fine. Scorpion and Banshee? So sad about that, RIP Longbow (when it comes up).

I’d LOVE to see more DLC too. Daybreak and Harvest for one. Not every map needs to be Heavies or Complex and Settler! There’s something to be said for the classic Halo combo of Banshee and Warthog turret like on Valhalla or Sandtrap or even Standoff in Halo 3. It’s so difficult to use the regular hog with all these power vehicles on every map now. Ultimately though, more variety needs to happen. Complex/Settler/Vortex/Meltdown re runs are just plain boring. I did get Outcast and a Ragnarok today though, for the first time in who knows how long, but the Ragnarok was a mid way join in progress…

I think maps need two modes. A heavies and a Normal.

Normal goes back to original settings. With some changes. But pretty much what we had before the update (at least 80% similar)

Heavies would be tanks, gauss, rocket hogs, banshees, more turrets, heavier ordanace.

So Normal Exile would be
>Warthogs
>Ghosts
>Mangooses
>No tank
>Ordance would be SAW, Sniper, Concussion rifle (Light but powerful)

Heavy Exile would be
>Rocket Hogs
>Gauss
>Tank(s)
>Banshee
>Rockets, SL, FRG.

Just an example of course.

I’m all for Heavies and Normal variants. They could make the Heavies maps even more vehicle dominated then. At the moment I think Ragnarok is the best Big Team map we have.

It has a lot of vehicles but it also has splasers and sniper rifles on relatively short respawn. It can be balanced out between the vehicles and anti vehicle weapons.

Maps like Vortex are vehicle heavy now but the splaser and sniper rifle seem to be on longer spawn timers.

> god knows why it takes them so long to do anything!
>
> ~usually the community says you know what would make map x better, a SL instead of a Railgun at location y, 343 response add FRG, RL, Nukes, ODST’s etc and spam over the map
>
> Thats way it takes so long!!

Then there’s: “hey the weapons are just fine on this map”.
343: “Ok, snipers replaced with needlers, frag grenades are now incinerator cannons”

> > god knows why it takes them so long to do anything!
> >
> > ~usually the community says you know what would make map x better, a SL instead of a Railgun at location y, 343 response add FRG, RL, Nukes, ODST’s etc and spam over the map
> >
> > Thats way it takes so long!!
>
> Then there’s: “hey the weapons are just fine on this map”.
> 343: “Ok, snipers replaced with needlers, frag grenades are now incinerator cannons”

…and make them spawn 2x faster

Just replace Meltdown with Ragnarok, Meltdown is up there as the worst map IMHO!

I’ve started to protest these terrible maps (complex, settler, and meltdown) by backing out of the lobby as soon as I see them as the selection, or quit if I get joined into one of the aforementioned maps in progress.

I will never understand the hate for complex… it’s such a fun map.

I’ve gotten Rag and Longbow once since the update. Never played Exile yet. They need to fix this.

Said in the bulletin that they are going to update voting options “to include an on-disk map in the first slot to allow for the best experiences for split-screen players and optimized overall map variety”. So maybe that will help?

maybe it is because the first 6 months of the game, “rag” and exile were the only 2 maps ANY one voted for. it is called forced variety. it is OKAY with me.