If you are in a party of 8, it is so boring playing 8 randoms. Especially since there is no trueskill in reach, you can easily match up against 8 other players who don’t know how to play the game.
I’ve been in parties where we would look on our friends list and see if anyone else is searching in a full party for btb. If we matched up against a small party, we would back out and re-search for a full party. It could literally take 10 minutes just to find a match. This is how desperate we are and how bad the reach mm system is.
I hope Halo 4 either has it so full parties only match full parties or there is some kind of trueskill (not broken like reach’s trueskill) so at least we can play against 8 competent players and have a fun balanced match. I would prefer both searching restrictions but either one would suffice.
> Halo 4 has a skill-based ranking system alongside the progression-based ranking system, your needs shall be fulfilled.
Yea but thats what they said for halo reach right? People say there is trueskill in this game but clearly it is broken. Also, is there any word if full parties only match full parties?
> > Halo 4 has a skill-based ranking system alongside the progression-based ranking system, your needs shall be fulfilled.
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> Yea but thats what they said for halo reach right? People say there is trueskill in this game but clearly it is broken. Also, is there any word if full parties only match full parties?
TrueSkill was only strict in Arena, which was stated, the whole game was extremely loose on TrueSkill for all but that.
Halo: Reach only have a skill-based ranking system in Arena also.
Yes there needs to be a system in place that makes party vs party a huge priority. It should be a in a way to that has 8 vs 8 then 7+1 vs 8 then 6+2 vs 8 and on like this.
Also in Reach right now you could match a single person pretty fast and some teams are not going to keep backing out constantly to always get a party so what I am suggesting is that if this happens to a team and there is another party of 8 it should force them together.
This way it would be party priority without completely sacrificing search times.
> > Halo 4 has a skill-based ranking system alongside the progression-based ranking system, your needs shall be fulfilled.
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> Yea but thats what they said for halo reach right? People say there is trueskill in this game but clearly it is broken. Also, is there any word if full parties only match full parties?
the TruSkill only really works for teams.
When you actually DO get an 8v8 its usually a pretty close game unless they have those 1 or 2 really bad peeps with them, right?
The reason its so faulty is because not a lot of people search with full parties.
> ANother simple solution: Don’t let BTB be overrun by community maps.
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> Or any mode for that matter…
Yes the community maps that are just horrible and somehow make it into matchmaking makes the voting option a bit weighted to slayer hemorrhage because all the other choices are just trash in comparison.
So the people who complain that they only get slayer it’s all about the horrible choices on crap maps like abridged and utopia that makes slayer the best option even if you just played on Hemorrhage 5 times.
Having good maps that are not paired with horrible gametypes will make the playlist better which would have more teams searching it and would help the party vs party a bit.
> Yes there needs to be a system in place that makes party vs party a huge priority. It should be a in a way to that has 8 vs 8 then 7+1 vs 8 then 6+2 vs 8 and on like this.
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> Also in Reach right now you could match a single person pretty fast and some teams are not going to keep backing out constantly to always get a party so what I am suggesting is that if this happens to a team and there is another party of 8 it should force them together.
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> This way it would be party priority without completely sacrificing search times.
This 100% This
It shouldn’t be an option as many teams wouldn’t use it – It should just match you vs. each other…
If you rolling around with a full party your going to be ROFLSTOMPING most of the time anyway. That happened for every halo game thats had MM. If you had a restriction to only match full parties you may not find a game or youd be spending just as much time trying to find one as you are now. Its not broken in any way.
> If you rolling around with a full party your going to be ROFLSTOMPING most of the time anyway. That happened for every halo game thats had MM. If you had a restriction to only match full parties you may not find a game or youd be spending just as much time trying to find one as you are now. Its not broken in any way.
It wouldn’t need to be a restriction it would be a priority where it would pull teams together and if there wasn’t another team of 8 it would go 7+1 then 6+2 5+3 and on and on it should never be singles vs 8 there will always be other groups searching in at least parties of 4, but if there truly is not a viable match with those options of parties it should just go towards singles instead of making a party of 8 search 20 minutes to find an optimal party.
> >Implying there were any BTB maps in reach.
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> Oh but we did get some in the DLC. Oh but they took BTB ANV and Squad DLC out. Im REALLY pumped for H4 BTB though
If 343 had any sense they would of put DLC restrictions into BTB when they took over, 3 years and no dlc restrictions that’s just BS.
> I love how you didn’t even touch on the many flaws about the gameplay that affect BTB negatively.
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> Take out the DMR in BTB games. Please.
343 will not do that I agree that BR starts would be better for BTB rather then the cross Hemorrhage DMR sniper. It all depends on IF 343 put in mind how strong it is a far ranges when designing the maps.
> Yeah. Reach had a broken MM. But I think 343i has seen this problem and will put a stop to it in Halo 4.
Yea Reach MM can be absolutely terrible at times had a game today where everyone but 1 guy was in North America but that 1 other guy was in Australia now guess who had host? The connection was so bad that 6 people on the other team quit in the beginning then 2 from our team. The way i knew he was host I betrayed him couple times made him quit then the host changed.
