I think the BR starts are good for the largest of BTB maps but there are a couple of maps that could work just based on avg engagement isn’t typically cross map. Guillotine is one where even though it’s a large map it has a lot of medium range encounters.
Not in Halo 5. The Halo 5 magnum is too powerful a precision weapon to spawn with imo. I mean, seriously, you RARELY see people using their AR if the have a pistol load it weapon too; and I’ve witnessed multiple times where a spartan will run over other precision weapons just because they prefer the magnum because of how powerful it is.
I say keep the BR cause one, its a far better weapon and two, the BR/DMR(for Halo Reach), has always been the secondary weapon for BTB so there’s no need to change it. I always play BTB and the gameplay of the maps felt great and flowed well. If you want Magnum starts, then honestly that should be a separate BTB playlist. That way the guys who want Magnum starts and the people like me who want to keep BR starts will be happy as well. Everyone wins.
Also another part of my argument. The BR is actually useful at taking out Warthog and Mongoose pilots so replacing them with Magnums would screw over the infantry and their chances to take out the vehicle pilots.
I honestly get tired of using the pistol and ar start for every gametype. I think it should stay, btb has always had BR starts and since it’s the only playlist in the entire game with it, it can stay.
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> > > > How about you leave us BTB fans alone? BTB is and always have been large scale, vehicular warfare. The BR all but ruins vehicle gameplay in Halo 5.
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Which brings back map control, have control, get the BR, and win gunfights, and 343 themselves have said the magnum is the utility, so I don’t know where your going with that. As for them being diffrent, lol, literally evreything.
Pistols are stronger than brs any way. I kill way more people with it its so OP. Only takes 5 shots to kill
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> Not in Halo 5. The Halo 5 magnum is too powerful a precision weapon to spawn with imo. I mean, seriously, you RARELY see people using their AR if the have a pistol load it weapon too; and I’ve witnessed multiple times where a spartan will run over other precision weapons just because they prefer the magnum because of how powerful it is.
The BR is way more powerful and easier to use than a magnum.
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> I say keep the BR cause one, its a far better weapon and two, the BR/DMR(for Halo Reach), has always been the secondary weapon for BTB so there’s no need to change it. I always play BTB and the gameplay of the maps felt great and flowed well. If you want Magnum starts, then honestly that should be a separate BTB playlist. That way the guys who want Magnum starts and the people like me who want to keep BR starts will be happy as well. Everyone wins.
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The entire reason we want magnum starts is so that we can use vehicles again. The BR can easily take out warthog gunners, making them useless. And just because the BR has always been the starting weapon, doesn’t mean it should stay that way. The BR we have now and the BR from H2&H3 are two different guns.
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> I honestly get tired of using the pistol and ar start for every gametype. I think it should stay, btb has always had BR starts and since it’s the only playlist in the entire game with it, it can stay.
SWAT has it. May not be traditional slayer but neither is BTB. BTB is not the BR playlist, it’s the large scale vehicular warfare playlist. So stop trying to make it something it’s not.
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Thats weird. I’ve played BTB in Halo 5 a lot I’m always seeing people use vehicles and make work of them. Hell I was using a Warthog in BTB the other day and got a Killtacular with the turret. I’ve never had problem using vehicles in Halo 5’s BTB and same with the players I run into. Even with BR starts I’m always seeing people use the Warthog and there are times my team can’t even stop the enemy because he or she was that good with the turret and their driver was a pro.
I love AR/Magnum starts. Having to be able to find and pick up a BR would make it more threatening and valuable like in arena.
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> > > I say keep the BR cause one, its a far better weapon and two, the BR/DMR(for Halo Reach), has always been the secondary weapon for BTB so there’s no need to change it. I always play BTB and the gameplay of the maps felt great and flowed well. If you want Magnum starts, then honestly that should be a separate BTB playlist. That way the guys who want Magnum starts and the people like me who want to keep BR starts will be happy as well. Everyone wins.
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I’m almost certain they were rocket or guass because chainguns just collect dust on the battlefield until a stray wraith or rocket hits them
They need to bring back all halo btb game types an there should be btb snipers btb assault btb brs ars and btb pistol ar start I’m just saying reach has more btb game types so far all we got is slayer strongholds and ctf wtf happened I guess they dropped the ball
I would rather have a game mode where you spawn in with only one magnum slip and you have armories with loadout weapons dotted around map. combine that with strongholds to force people to play objective. as the game progresses more strongholds with more powerful weapons can appear. (EG: 1st 1/2 3 points with ARs and BRs; 2nd half 3 points with AR,Br and DMR (with attachments) and 3 “minor” points with either sniper, shotgun or hydras.).
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The BR has a faster TTK, more magnetism and a forgiving three round burst, it’s better in every way.
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> > > > I honestly get tired of using the pistol and ar start for every gametype. I think it should stay, btb has always had BR starts and since it’s the only playlist in the entire game with it, it can stay.
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Oh no these were chaingun Warthogs believe it or not. I see a lot of people use them in BTB. Especially on Deadlock, Guilotine, that one map with the crashed space ship, Fractured and Viking. Altar too.
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> > > > > I say keep the BR cause one, its a far better weapon and two, the BR/DMR(for Halo Reach), has always been the secondary weapon for BTB so there’s no need to change it. I always play BTB and the gameplay of the maps felt great and flowed well. If you want Magnum starts, then honestly that should be a separate BTB playlist. That way the guys who want Magnum starts and the people like me who want to keep BR starts will be happy as well. Everyone wins.
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I don’t lol, they’re generally splasered right away. I’m one who also tosses grenades on them because they’re worthless for combat and it denies flag transportation. The banshee is the only vehicle I ever see get used consistently.
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Have you ever had the BR in your hands?
magnum starts. i dont play btb because of br starts
On board. Love my Magnum.
I wouldn’t mind trying out magnum starts. The only issue I have is I’m not a fan of using it because it just highlights all the aiming issues in this game which makes using it even harder.