BTB Magnum/Ar Starts

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> > > > What’s funny is people once upon a time complained about magnum/AR starts, which is why they switched to BR.
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> > Pretty H2, had mangum/Ar, then people freaked about getting it changed. Big maps like that need BRs.
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> Oh I thought you meant Halo 5.

Nah, i’m old.

Can we not get different weapon starts on different maps?

Hey, I know! Boltshot and Plasma Pistol starts! And no sprint! And slower base movement speed! And no Spartan abilities!

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> > > What’s funny is people once upon a time complained about magnum/AR starts, which is why they switched to BR.
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> Pretty H2, had mangum/Ar, then people freaked about getting it changed. Big maps like that need BRs.

The AR wasn’t in Halo 2. Do you mean Halo 3?

they would have to change the maps a little but, I don’t care either way brb is fun.

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> > > > What’s funny is people once upon a time complained about magnum/AR starts, which is why they switched to BR.
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> The AR wasn’t in Halo 2. Do you mean Halo 3?

Maybe, it’s been a long time.

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> > > Why not BR and Magnum start. Not saying AR would be eliminated but it would still be able to pick up. I would much prefer this because it would take a lot more skill. Not saying btb is sweaty but BR and Magnum would be the way to go. In other halos the AR wasnt a problem but now since it is OP in H5. The AR has to go. I at least think they should try it out for a week and let the community vote. We need a precision weapon playlist (not swat) in h5 and BTB would be a great place to start.
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> > There’s no point in BR+Magnum when the BR is obviously more powerful, no one would use the Magnum because it’s outclassed by the BR unless they want a handicap. Magnum+AR is the perfect balance and will make things like warthogs relevant again, the BR is just too powerful for a starting weapon in Halo 5.
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> What other weapon would you have with the magnum without the AR. I would prefer anything else besides other autos.

idk really, cant think of anything other than autos that would fit with the magnum

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> > > > > What’s funny is people once upon a time complained about magnum/AR starts, which is why they switched to BR.
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Yeah, Halo 2 had the SMG instead.

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> > > > > > What’s funny is people once upon a time complained about magnum/AR starts, which is why they switched to BR.
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That’s what it was. Thinking back how could they not have the AR, that is MC signature guns. I mean it sucked but still.

No thanks. If I wanted AR/Pistol starts I’d go play Arena.

How about instead of swapping out the BR they buf vehicle health instead? Doesn’t that fix the problem?

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> > > > > > > What’s funny is people once upon a time complained about magnum/AR starts, which is why they switched to BR.
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> That’s what it was. Thinking back how could they not have the AR, that is MC signature guns. I mean it sucked but still.

When you realize that Bungie’s track record of sandbox balancing is super apparent in literally every game they’ve made after Halo CE. And I’m including Destiny.

BTB is soo diferent to slayer. Its ok a BR and AR

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> No thanks. If I wanted AR/Pistol starts I’d go play Arena.
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> How about instead of swapping out the BR they buf vehicle health instead? Doesn’t that fix the problem?

Not particularly. Vehicle health has to be balanced for Warzone as well, where Warthogs and Ghosts have to be threatened by comparitively weak weapons, including the BR.

Why not Assault rifle/ carbine or Assault rifle and extra magazine magnum from that ultra rare warzone loadout req?
Having more reserve and larger magazine on the pistol would eliminate the ‘spending half the game reloading’.
Why aren’t DMR or light rifle considered for precision weapons starts.
For me the Battle rifle is too easy to use and gives too much of a reward for the little effort used.
Why do we have start with UNSC weapons?

I have been playing Halo in matchmaking since it had matchmaking, back in Halo 2. And I have always longed for Big Team Battle without Battle Rifle spawns. Especially since Reach made vehicle health independent of pilot health. The warthog might see more use if it wasn’t going to get slammed from three directions in almost every encounter.

Personally I believe it would be nice to start with no pistol and change things up a bit. Maybe only start with a Assault and place pistols on the map. Plus the Assault damage needs to be increased. In real life I would rather have a Assault over a pistol and It is more dangerous. It seems reality is backwards in halo. Pop, pop pop= boring! Less emphasis please on the Pistol. Don’t get me wrong I like it; things just don’t add up. Plus decrease its range. It should be no match for a BR.

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> they would have to change the maps a little but, I don’t care either way brb is fun.

No they wouldn’t, every map in BTB was made for and tested with magum/AR starts.

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> No thanks. If I wanted AR/Pistol starts I’d go play Arena.
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> How about instead of swapping out the BR they buf vehicle health instead? Doesn’t that fix the problem?

No, the problem isn’t just vehicle health. BRs cause stagnation & promote camping, Warthog gunners to too exposed, and more such as the lose of independent empowerment.

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> BTB is soo diferent to slayer. Its ok a BR and AR

No it’s not. There are all sorts of issues BR starts cause.

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> Why not Assault rifle/ carbine or Assault rifle and extra magazine magnum from that ultra rare warzone loadout req?
> Having more reserve and larger magazine on the pistol would eliminate the ‘spending half the game reloading’.
> Why aren’t DMR or light rifle considered for precision weapons starts.
> For me the Battle rifle is too easy to use and gives too much of a reward for the little effort used.
> Why do we have start with UNSC weapons?

The DMR is a mini sniper rifle and while it’s harder to use, it covers more range than a BR and those who do know how to use it can lock down a map more than Warzone farmers. Meanwhile the light rifle is a three shot to kill while scoped and has the same, if not more, range than the DMR. They weren’t designed to be loadout weapons for Arena, they were meant to be weapons that you’d throw the loadout weapon away for. But when you start with a BR, there’s no incentive to pick up a DMR or light rifle other than personal preference.

I’m not opposed to carbine starts though, that’d be fun if you asked me.

OMG!! For the love of god please bring back AR/Pistol starts.

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> I would prefer ar/magnum starts, but if 343 takes away br starts there would be rioting in the streets. Even with a lot of people voicing desire for magnum starts, we are still the vocal minority.
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> > How about AR and Plasma Pistols starts on Arena maps. I would be completely down for that.
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I think AR magnum starts would be reasonable for many of the maps. I have had so many btb battles where I ended up pinned down by the other team even though they are no where actually near me. Usually you end up in a battle where you each hold one side of the map the whole time.