They need to include TANKS and Heavy vehicles into BTB. I would of rather had the Warzone style weapons and vehicles added into the BTB style modes. The map is way too big and vast for just 2 warthogs, and 2 mongooses.
Did they say anything about not having tanks in the stream? I didn’t catch all of it.
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> Did they say anything about not having tanks in the stream? I didn’t catch all of it.
Nope.
Tanks don’t belong on all BTB maps and gametypes since they can be detrimental to the experience when poorly implemented.
Not all maps need heavy vehicle in BTB.
Tanks are most likely going to spawn from pelican drops in the map and this was confirmed. Pelican drops will start off with small vehicles like mongooses and ghosts then as the game goes by, pelicans start dropping tanks. Plus, you can clearly see a wraith in fragmentation in (I think) the mp reveal trailer.
They at least need a banshee or some type of flying heavy vehicle.
Looking at Fragmentation I’m not even sure a Tank would properly fit on the roads or have any real lines of sight. Covenant vehicles may be a bit out of place too.
Honestly I think air combat would be better for this map so Wasp/Hornet would be ideal.
It is to my understanding that the vehicles will be dropped in via ordnance deployments. It goes in tiers, so first it’ll likely be Mongoose/Ghost, then it’ll likely be Warthogs/Choppers, then it will likely be Banshee’s/Hornets/Wasps (whatever we get), and then it’ll likely be Wraith’s and Scorpions. I have yet to hear about us not getting tanks, but it also has to work well in the map. Obviously you don’t want tanks in a tight quarters map or Air Ordnance in a map with low ceilings such as low ceiling caves or inside buildings.
I do agree that thanks and flight vehicles are a key component for most of the epic battles on BTB however I will like to wait to see how it plays out, they are taking a more passive route so hopefully it will be very fun and when those vehicles drop everything will be amazing chaos like on the old days on reach :´)
in the multiplayer trailer fragmentation has wraiths, choppers and banshees. either way i’m sure its not going to be just mongooses (mongeese?) and warthogs. there seems to be a lot of assets missing from the flights, both vehicles and weapons.
Scorpio is too big for the road, Mantis, Chopper and Wraith are ok. Tiers drop, but I hope they will drop a bit earlier.
They’ve already confirmed that both tanks and aircraft will be dropped in by Pelicans during a match as opposed to spawning in regularly like the lighter vehicles.
They went this route to add flavour and a sense of evolving gameplay to the matches. It will likely occur either at certain timestamps or when certain scores are reached. For example, after the 3rd flag cap in a match, or more likely around a certain minute mark (8 for example), the Pelicans will drop two Scorpions, one near each base and the gameplay will likely shift to a scramble where some teammates try to capture or destroy the one near the enemy base, while simultaneously others will be protecting your own.
Don’t tell me, in order to get a TANK we need like a 11 kill streak, without dying like COD for an AC-130.
So there’s no tanks and stuff at the start of a match anymore. No more everyone spawning with the same vehicles and same weapons on a symmetrical map to see who’ best anymore?
That sucks. Part of the skill of old titles was eliminating the enemy heavy vehicle or sniper while simultaneously preserving your own, and knowing the countdown on the tank for when the enemy tank would be back etc. I miss competitive BTB, it was IMO the most fun experience in the entire game. This appears not to be a thing anymore.
They also added that stupid scope flare back for the sniper…
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> Don’t tell me, in order to get a TANK we need like a 11 kill streak, without dying like COD for an AC-130.
343 said that the “ordnance drops” are just vehicles getting dropped by pelicans at set times rather then appearing out of thin air. Tanks only spawn late match due to being, well, tanks.
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> Don’t tell me, in order to get a TANK we need like a 11 kill streak, without dying like COD for an AC-130.
No, it’s nothing like that. It doesn’t reward one team for scoring x points. It instead spawns one in the center of the map, or two with one on each team’s side when a certain milestone is reached. Whether that milestone is based on the match timer, or the score of the game remains to be seen. But they will spawn as a neutral force on the map to be fought over, not as a gift-wrapped reward to a player who’s performing well.
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> So there’s no tanks and stuff at the start of a match anymore. No more everyone spawning with the same vehicles and same weapons on a symmetrical map to see who’ best anymore?
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> That sucks. Part of the skill of old titles was eliminating the enemy heavy vehicle or sniper while simultaneously preserving your own, and knowing the countdown on the tank for when the enemy tank would be back etc. I miss competitive BTB, it was IMO the most fun experience in the entire game. This appears not to be a thing anymore.
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> They also added that stupid scope flare back for the sniper…
You seem to have the wrong idea. It is NOT random, the heavy vehicle spawns will be deliberate, but they will happen mid-game and be different vehicles over the course of it. You still have to fight for control of them, it’s just that the first tanks may spawn 3 minutes into the match, or when the second flag capture occurs for example, making it sort of an event.
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> > So there’s no tanks and stuff at the start of a match anymore. No more everyone spawning with the same vehicles and same weapons on a symmetrical map to see who’ best anymore?
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> > That sucks. Part of the skill of old titles was eliminating the enemy heavy vehicle or sniper while simultaneously preserving your own, and knowing the countdown on the tank for when the enemy tank would be back etc. I miss competitive BTB, it was IMO the most fun experience in the entire game. This appears not to be a thing anymore.
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> > They also added that stupid scope flare back for the sniper…
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> You seem to have the wrong idea. It is NOT random, the heavy vehicle spawns will be deliberate, but they will happen mid-game and be different vehicles over the course of it. You still have to fight for control of them, it’s just that the first tanks may spawn 3 minutes into the match, or when the second flag capture occurs for example, making it sort of an event.
Seems like it could be interesting, as long as it’s implemented well, but I would still like the old school traditional BTB experience, would be great if they added both because although I personally wasn’t a vehicle -Yoink!-, but hopefully for the sake of tank whores they’re not only in the match for the last 5 minutes haha. Thanks for clarifying.
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> > > So there’s no tanks and stuff at the start of a match anymore. No more everyone spawning with the same vehicles and same weapons on a symmetrical map to see who’ best anymore?
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> > > That sucks. Part of the skill of old titles was eliminating the enemy heavy vehicle or sniper while simultaneously preserving your own, and knowing the countdown on the tank for when the enemy tank would be back etc. I miss competitive BTB, it was IMO the most fun experience in the entire game. This appears not to be a thing anymore.
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> > > They also added that stupid scope flare back for the sniper…
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> > You seem to have the wrong idea. It is NOT random, the heavy vehicle spawns will be deliberate, but they will happen mid-game and be different vehicles over the course of it. You still have to fight for control of them, it’s just that the first tanks may spawn 3 minutes into the match, or when the second flag capture occurs for example, making it sort of an event.
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> Seems like it could be interesting, as long as it’s implemented well, but I would still like the old school traditional BTB experience, would be great if they added both. Thanks for clarifying.
I do like the idea. I’m sure some maps will also have some heavier vehicles right at the start, like of they remake Valhalla, the Banshees would still be there at the start of the game, but at the midway point a Pelican might show up and drop a Scorpion over behind the central turret for teams to fight over.
That said I don’t expect them to remake Valhalla, just pulling an example. Valhalla would be waaaaay too small for 12v12