BTB Heavies

With the new updates to BTB, I was hoping for something new and exciting. All I’ve seen is the same old same old. What happened to the good old days of Blood Gulch-esque, large open maps, with one or two tanks, a gauss AND normal hog, a ghost, and flying vehicle on EACH side? With splazers and spnkrs and splatters and fun carnage the whole round through? What we have now is just a larger scale version of team slayer, with one flying vehicle and one hog per team. And it is boring. Please give us BTB heavies on big, fun maps.

As long as people aren’t constantly cross-mapping each other with handcannons like the CE Magnum, we should be fine.

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> What happened to the good old days of Blood Gulch-esque, large open maps, with one or two tanks, a gauss AND normal hog, a ghost, and flying vehicle on EACH side? With splazers and spnkrs and splatters and fun carnage the whole round through?

Dispelled & Viking

To be honest, open maps do not work in Halo 5, at least not with Battle Riffle starts. So unless you can convince the community to give up the BR for Mag starts your not going to get open maps.

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> To be honest, open maps do not work in Halo 5, at least not with Battle Riffle starts. So unless you can convince the community to give up the BR for Mag starts your not going to get open maps.

This is so true. The bullet magnetism on the BR is strong allowing you to hit easier at ranges that were difficult before.

You know what would be even better for BTB?

A map that isn’t made from forge.

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> You know what would be even better for BTB?
> A map that isn’t made from forge.

I don’t know what your problem is with it, but personally I love that community-made maps are included!

If they just made it magnum starts you could introduce so much more to BTB. That being said 343 probably doesn’t want to do that because it will detract from the cash cow that is warzone

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> > You know what would be even better for BTB?
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> I don’t know what your problem is with it, but personally I love that community-made maps are included!

I have no problem with it, I just want some Developer made Maps.

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> > You know what would be even better for BTB?
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> I don’t know what your problem is with it, but personally I love that community-made maps are included!

all of them are good except for the trash called Unearthed. Who the yoink thought that map was a smart idea. It’s one of the worst maps to get put in a btb playlist

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> > > You know what would be even better for BTB?
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> > I don’t know what your problem is with it, but personally I love that community-made maps are included!
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> all of them are good except for the trash called Unearthed. Who the yoink thought that map was a smart idea. It’s one of the worst maps to get put in a btb playlist

Agreed, the idea is super cool, but the map is really hard to play on.

343i chooses “competetive” over “fun” and don’t have many large sandbox moments that are extremely fun because they would rather work on ways to implement REQ packs and what not.

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> > What happened to the good old days of Blood Gulch-esque, large open maps, with one or two tanks, a gauss AND normal hog, a ghost, and flying vehicle on EACH side? With splazers and spnkrs and splatters and fun carnage the whole round through?
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> Dispelled & Viking
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> To be honest, open maps do not work in Halo 5, at least not with Battle Riffle starts. So unless you can convince the community to give up the BR for Mag starts your not going to get open maps.

but if a map is open enough, and has enough vehicles to properly combat the BR, would that help balance BR starts?

just a thought

also, mag starts on more open maps sounds like hell. You’d be chasing people just to get close enough to try to get a kill. I feel like it’d be 80% running

mag starts on the current BTB maps would be dope tho, not gonna argue that

Imagine team heavies, but on large open warzone maps. Obviously you would take out the core and base aspect, just scatter vehicles all over the maps.

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> Dispelled & Viking
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> To be honest, open maps do not work in Halo 5, at least not with Battle Riffle starts. So unless you can convince the community to give up the BR for Mag starts your not going to get open maps.

It’s freakin Heavies. The whole point is you don’t need a BR because you’re too busy pwning in a vehicle. Put Plasma Pistols and some rocket type weapons around and let the fun begin

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> > > What happened to the good old days of Blood Gulch-esque, large open maps, with one or two tanks, a gauss AND normal hog, a ghost, and flying vehicle on EACH side? With splazers and spnkrs and splatters and fun carnage the whole round through?
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> > To be honest, open maps do not work in Halo 5, at least not with Battle Riffle starts. So unless you can convince the community to give up the BR for Mag starts your not going to get open maps.
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> It’s freakin Heavies. The whole point is you don’t need a BR because you’re too busy pwning in a vehicle. Put Plasma Pistols and some rocket type weapons around and let the fun begin

A BR will beat a land vehicle gunner 85% of the time because the BR range is longer then the gunners and more accurate. Adding more plasma pistols would not make the match any more fun as you’d be EMPd constantly and shot off from far distances with the BR.

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> With the new updates to BTB, I was hoping for something new and exciting. All I’ve seen is the same old same old. What happened to the good old days of Blood Gulch-esque, large open maps, with one or two tanks, a gauss AND normal hog, a ghost, and flying vehicle on EACH side? With splazers and spnkrs and splatters and fun carnage the whole round through? What we have now is just a larger scale version of team slayer, with one flying vehicle and one hog per team. And it is boring. Please give us BTB heavies on big, fun maps.

YES! This needs to happen. Also remember that some of the Halo 5 BTB maps (Altar, Viking) were once Halo 3 maps (Sandtrap, Valhalla) and so already had Heavies versions of them designed. 343i should try to be as faithful to those original versions as possible.

Warzone is a defacto BTB heavies, especially turbo warzone.

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> > To be honest, open maps do not work in Halo 5, at least not with Battle Riffle starts. So unless you can convince the community to give up the BR for Mag starts your not going to get open maps.
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> but if a map is open enough, and has enough vehicles to properly combat the BR, would that help balance BR starts?
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> just a thought
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> also, mag starts on more open maps sounds like hell. You’d be chasing people just to get close enough to try to get a kill. I feel like it’d be 80% running
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> mag starts on the current BTB maps would be dope tho, not gonna argue that

Aka “BTB on Halo 3”. Anyone remember THAT hell?

Vehicles are currently too powerful to have mag starts . Especially the banshee

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> > > > What happened to the good old days of Blood Gulch-esque, large open maps, with one or two tanks, a gauss AND normal hog, a ghost, and flying vehicle on EACH side? With splazers and spnkrs and splatters and fun carnage the whole round through?
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> > > To be honest, open maps do not work in Halo 5, at least not with Battle Riffle starts. So unless you can convince the community to give up the BR for Mag starts your not going to get open maps.
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> > but if a map is open enough, and has enough vehicles to properly combat the BR, would that help balance BR starts?
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> > just a thought
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> > also, mag starts on more open maps sounds like hell. You’d be chasing people just to get close enough to try to get a kill. I feel like it’d be 80% running
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> > mag starts on the current BTB maps would be dope tho, not gonna argue that
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> Aka “BTB on Halo 3”. Anyone remember THAT hell?

BTB in Halo 3 was BR and AR starts, not magnums.