I personally like this beta minus week 2. The BR is way to OP and for everyone out there who’s like “you just don’t how to use the BR” no, I know how to use it but its the only thing I have really died from this week aside from the sword and sniper. Why are there even other weapons on the map when the BR trumps them no matter what. Team BR’s should not be thing, it’s way to powerful to be a start weapon and in my opinion should just be a pickup on the map. Also I’m tired of -Yoinking!- shooting at people with the BR and they turn around and start shooting me but I die in two shots like wtf is that about. I didn’t get shot from anywhere else for sure because it happened during a match where there was only one person on the other team. I’m not so much trying to saying the gun needs to be nerfed, but It’s no fun and gives no skill to anyone. Matches are just -Yoink- every weapon who can fire the BR the fastest and piss people off and cause them to quit. In halo 2 and 3 the BR had the perfect balance because other weapons actually had a chance against it. Now unlike a lot of people I actually enjoy Eden as a map and despise regret more than anything. Regret is the main reason behind this complaint because there is absolutely -Yoinking!- nowhere for anyone to take cover and you can get shot from anywhere on the map. Its a poorly constructed map and I hope it is not in the final cut of this game. Also I agree that the AR and SMG don’t need to be amped or nerfed I think they are fine how they are and honestly I can’t really remember how well the weapon balance is but when everyone is starting with and only using BR’s it’s just so boring. Also, The BR is an any range weapon I die from BR’s when I use my AR close range a lot because of the DUMB AS -Yoink- control loss I get from aiming when I’m being shot at. If anyone agrees with me or has anything to say about what I just said please give feedback. I’m not trying to argue with people, but I just want to read other players opinions.
Everytime I see a post like this I open the posters service record and almost always they have a below average to bad K/D ratio in MCC. This doesn’t mean their opinion doesn’t matter. It just means their opinion is biased because they obviously aren’t great with the BR. Same thing with players that like BR starts. They usually have a good K/D ratio and are biased toward BR starts bc they are good with the BR.
This game since halo 2 has always been about the br, get better, if you have two shots on a guy and he turns around and kills you then you are horrible with the br.
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> Everytime I see a post like this I open the posters service record and almost always they have a below average to bad K/D ratio in MCC. This doesn’t mean their opinion doesn’t matter. It just means their opinion is biased because they obviously aren’t great with the BR. Same thing with players that like BR starts. They usually have a good K/D ratio and are biased toward BR starts bc they are good with the BR.
Every opinion is valid. He wants to play the game, so he wants to get the most enjoyment out of it. In TMCC the BR is virtually the only good weapon to use aside from power weapons. They made other weapons stronger for Halo 5 but also did that to the BR and now we have the most OP BR ever in a Halo. They should look to H2A as the standard for all future BRs. It’s not super accurate at long range. You cant cross-map perfect 4-shot someone on Stonetown in H2A, but you certainly can do that in Halo 5’s Beta on Eden, which is about the same size as Stonetown, minus the beach perhaps. Too much bullet magnetism, too tight of spread, too fast rate of fire. Nerf all 3 to a small degree and it would be properly balanced for mid-range utility.
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> Everytime I see a post like this I open the posters service record and almost always they have a below average to bad K/D ratio in MCC. This doesn’t mean their opinion doesn’t matter. It just means their opinion is biased because they obviously aren’t great with the BR. Same thing with players that like BR starts. They usually have a good K/D ratio and are biased toward BR starts bc they are good with the BR.
Because a broken game that has players disconnect mid match, stand in the match as the game loads up, and not work at a is such a good indicator of skill. No doubt the buggy mess is so much better than original products because they mever worked flawlessly, right?
/sarcasm Quit stat flaming and provide an actual response besides “You suck at a broken video game that was a rushed cash-grab for Black Friday!”.
To OP: Personally, the radar favors the BR too much, reducing the need for any weapons to pick up if it isn’t a power weapon. If we werent being told who is nearby so quickly, we’d see more dynamics and discourage campy tactics the BR starts gametype currently brings.
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> To OP: Personally, the radar favors the BR too much, reducing the need for any weapons to pick up if it isn’t a power weapon. If we werent being told who is nearby so quickly, we’d see more dynamics and discourage campy tactics the BR starts gametype currently brings.
I thought this too, but I also realized that the maps that we have been playing are all pretty much mid-range maps. Had last weeks maps, which were definitely more close-quarters, started with BRs I feel there would be more AR/SMG pickups. Just a thought.
I never flamed anybody. Just made a factual statement. Most players that are good with the BR like BR starts and most players that aren’t good with the BR like AR starts. Nothing wrong with that.
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> I never flamed anybody. Just made a factual statement. Most players that are good with the BR like BR starts and most players that aren’t good with the BR like AR starts. Nothing wrong with that.
and your statement was based on a broken game.
God forbid he wants to encourage more weapons to be used in a gametype that heavily favors the starting weapon by gametype settings alone.
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> > I never flamed anybody. Just made a factual statement. Most players that are good with the BR like BR starts and most players that aren’t good with the BR like AR starts. Nothing wrong with that.
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When did I say him wanting to encourage more weapon use is wrong. I never said that.
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> This game since halo 2 has always been about the br, get better, if you have two shots on a guy and he turns around and kills you then you are horrible with the br.
I completely agree with you it’s not that I’m bad with the BR and my K/D in halo 5 beta isn’t bad I just recently got the MCC so it’s terrible now. But I’m not saying that someone couldn’t out BR me after turning around, but literally it only takes them two shots. I’m not trash with the BR and I love the BR in the previous halo games I’m saying that this particular BR is super OP not so much because of it’s power but it shoots slightly quicker than the previous Halo games since the BR’s premiere in Halo 2. I know I’m not the best with BR and the only complaint I have about it is in Halo 5 only.
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> > Everytime I see a post like this I open the posters service record and almost always they have a below average to bad K/D ratio in MCC. This doesn’t mean their opinion doesn’t matter. It just means their opinion is biased because they obviously aren’t great with the BR. Same thing with players that like BR starts. They usually have a good K/D ratio and are biased toward BR starts bc they are good with the BR.
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Thank you Kakushi that’s what I’m trying to say. My MCC K/D is low because I just got the game 2 days after Christmas and since then have only played like 5 multiplayer games in the previous Halo’s I’ve really just been playing the beta where my K/D isn’t really bad. I’m decent with the BR and once again I’m not complaining about the BR itself because I loved it in the previous games, but this game it is way to powerful for it to be a start weapon it shoots around 1.7 seconds faster in this game then the previous Halo games and that is my main complaint about it. The map Regret is also the main reason for this post because there isn’t really a good place to post up. If the BR was similar to that of the other Halo games I probably wouldn’t have much to complain about, but you have to at the very least agree that the BR in this beta is the strongest it has ever been in the Halo series
Don’t worry, 343 can see the statistics beyond what fanboys on these forums shout. They can see the massive drop in player population since introducing BR starts to this beta. The numbers speak for themselves.
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> > Everytime I see a post like this I open the posters service record and almost always they have a below average to bad K/D ratio in MCC. This doesn’t mean their opinion doesn’t matter. It just means their opinion is biased because they obviously aren’t great with the BR. Same thing with players that like BR starts. They usually have a good K/D ratio and are biased toward BR starts bc they are good with the BR.
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> Because a broken game that has players disconnect mid match, stand in the match as the game loads up, and not work at a is such a good indicator of skill. No doubt the buggy mess is so much better than original products because they mever worked flawlessly, right?
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> To OP: Personally, the radar favors the BR too much, reducing the need for any weapons to pick up if it isn’t a power weapon. If we werent being told who is nearby so quickly, we’d see more dynamics and discourage campy tactics the BR starts gametype currently brings.
Thanks Pain I agree I just want the game to favor almost all weapons. This game and this game ONLY seems to be in favor for just the BR and power weapons. Unless you crouch around with the AR or SMG it’s really difficult to get kills with them. And another thing my K/D factors a lot to the lack of effort of team players in games especially when people are quitting out or getting DC,d and it becomes a four on three or two on four game. My KDA is the beta is a 5.6 and overall K/D is a 1.5. I wouldn’t say that’s really good, but it’s far from awful. I can use the BR and I have faith that I’m good with it, it honestly isn’t about how many times I die from the BR it’s that it seems to be the only weapon that anyone uses aside from the occasional power weapons which in my opinion are irrelevant on these BR designed maps. You could get a couple good shots off with the sniper on Eden before you completely destroyed by the BR (not saying that’s a bad thing) but the distance for the BR and sniper on the map seem the same the only difference is the sniper takes 1-2 shots to kill while the BR takes 4.
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> Everytime I see a post like this I open the posters service record and almost always they have a below average to bad K/D ratio in MCC. This doesn’t mean their opinion doesn’t matter. It just means their opinion is biased because they obviously aren’t great with the BR. Same thing with players that like BR starts. They usually have a good K/D ratio and are biased toward BR starts bc they are good with the BR.
BR starts sucks. Check my KD.
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> Don’t worry, 343 can see the statistics beyond what fanboys on these forums shout. They can see the massive drop in player population since introducing BR starts to this beta. The numbers speak for themselves.
I never really looked into that, but thanks for the heads up. I didn’t create this forum to say the BR shouldn’t exist, but I just don’t get how people don’t see its power versus the previous Halo games.
I typically prefer BR starts but I like them more as a pick up in Halo 5 for sure. The BR was already by far my most used weapon but it’s nice to have that weapon rush, and I find the engagement distance mixed with the faster kill time with BR starts just sort or makes the game into whack a mole.
BR starts aren’t bad per se but I prefer the way they balanced the AR/Pistol start and having to pick them up off the map.
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I agree. I’m not arguing that it shouldn’t be in the game, because it’s an amazingly fun and effective weapon to use in a lot of circumstances (not all). However, the game and maps are designed to flow with people running and gunning, rather than camping and spawn killing. BR starts promote the latter in this game, and it simply is not enjoyable. Most of my friends and I have quit playing the beta for this reason.
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> I personally like this beta minus week 2. The BR is way to OP and for everyone out there who’s like “you just don’t how to use the BR” no, I know how to use it but its the only thing I have really died from this week aside from the sword and sniper. Why are there even other weapons on the map when the BR trumps them no matter what. Team BR’s should not be thing, it’s way to powerful to be a start weapon and in my opinion should just be a pickup on the map. Also I’m tired of -Yoinking!- shooting at people with the BR and they turn around and start shooting me but I die in two shots like wtf is that about. I didn’t get shot from anywhere else for sure because it happened during a match where there was only one person on the other team. I’m not so much trying to saying the gun needs to be nerfed, but It’s no fun and gives no skill to anyone. Matches are just -Yoink- every weapon who can fire the BR the fastest and piss people off and cause them to quit. In halo 2 and 3 the BR had the perfect balance because other weapons actually had a chance against it. Now unlike a lot of people I actually enjoy Eden as a map and despise regret more than anything. Regret is the main reason behind this complaint because there is absolutely -Yoinking!- nowhere for anyone to take cover and you can get shot from anywhere on the map. Its a poorly constructed map and I hope it is not in the final cut of this game. Also I agree that the AR and SMG don’t need to be amped or nerfed I think they are fine how they are and honestly I can’t really remember how well the weapon balance is but when everyone is starting with and only using BR’s it’s just so boring. Also, The BR is an any range weapon I die from BR’s when I use my AR close range a lot because of the DUMB AS -Yoink- control loss I get from aiming when I’m being shot at. If anyone agrees with me or has anything to say about what I just said please give feedback. I’m not trying to argue with people, but I just want to read other players opinions.
Sweet Mother Theresa On The Hood Of A Mercedez Bendz… Can we STOP with these posts …
Wait for the game to come out before you ask about playlists…
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> > I typically prefer BR starts by I like them more as a pick up in Halo 5 for sure. The BR was already by far my most used weapon but it’s nice to have that weapon rush, and I find the engagement distance with BR starts just sort or makes the game into whack a mole.
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> > I personally like this beta minus week 2. The BR is way to OP and for everyone out there who’s like “you just don’t how to use the BR” no, I know how to use it but its the only thing I have really died from this week aside from the sword and sniper. Why are there even other weapons on the map when the BR trumps them no matter what. Team BR’s should not be thing, it’s way to powerful to be a start weapon and in my opinion should just be a pickup on the map. Also I’m tired of -Yoinking!- shooting at people with the BR and they turn around and start shooting me but I die in two shots like wtf is that about. I didn’t get shot from anywhere else for sure because it happened during a match where there was only one person on the other team. I’m not so much trying to saying the gun needs to be nerfed, but It’s no fun and gives no skill to anyone. Matches are just -Yoink- every weapon who can fire the BR the fastest and piss people off and cause them to quit. In halo 2 and 3 the BR had the perfect balance because other weapons actually had a chance against it. Now unlike a lot of people I actually enjoy Eden as a map and despise regret more than anything. Regret is the main reason behind this complaint because there is absolutely -Yoinking!- nowhere for anyone to take cover and you can get shot from anywhere on the map. Its a poorly constructed map and I hope it is not in the final cut of this game. Also I agree that the AR and SMG don’t need to be amped or nerfed I think they are fine how they are and honestly I can’t really remember how well the weapon balance is but when everyone is starting with and only using BR’s it’s just so boring. Also, The BR is an any range weapon I die from BR’s when I use my AR close range a lot because of the DUMB AS -Yoink- control loss I get from aiming when I’m being shot at. If anyone agrees with me or has anything to say about what I just said please give feedback. I’m not trying to argue with people, but I just want to read other players opinions.
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> Wait for the game to come out before you ask about playlists…
What? This is about the BR and ONE map that I dislike obviously it’s just a beta, but the forums are used for feedback plus I just wanted to see other peoples opinions. It’s my opinion, do I think that 343 is going to pick out this one particular post and change the game…no obviously not. I’m just throwing my opinion out there.