Bring back Premium Battle!

I have played about 50 games since the matchmaking update went live. During that time, the ONLYtime that I saw a DLC map was when I was playing an Anniversary playlist.

I feel that these algorithms that are supposed to match DLC owners with other DLC owners is nothing but a myth. As it stands, the only ‘real’ way to get DLC in matchmaking is to play the Anniversary playlists and these set of playlists do not include the other two map packs (for a very good reason).

I asking for one of two things to happen. Either have some playlists require ALL DLC or bring back Premium Battle so that those of us who do own the DLC are able to play on the maps once in a while.

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I doubt the new programming is any more real than the previous programming that supposedly did the same thing.

I don’t know if this is possible with Reach’s matchmaking algorithms, but maybe we can do the following:

Condense all the anniversary playlists and dlc playlists into one solitary ‘Premium Squad’ playlist. requirements will be ownership of Noble AND/OR Defiant AND/OR Anniversary map packs (you can only play if you own at least one of them). therefore you will only be matched up against players who own the same dlc as you.

Gruntsworthy has a good idea.

I just renewed my live account and was hoping to try and play some Premium. Then I saw the update. I’ve been playing since about 7:30pm my time—it’s currently 4 minutes to 1. I’m calling shenanigans on this new algorithm.

Gruntsworthy got a brillaint idea. But actually no Idea would beat mine. Instead of doing that, Let Noble & Defiant playlist’s return, obviously Noble/Defiant ONLY Required for each one of them. But making anniversary appearances every once in a while (with the DLC weightening is almost impossible to play a map in another playlist other than DLC, and we still have no 6v6 anniversary maps, so this would make sense)

Yeah, i wanna play my dlc maps with armor abilities goddammit.

ahem Wouldn’t it be a lot easier if your Noble and Defiant Map packs played on the Anniversary Multiplayer? It’s already on your hard drive and it registers as Reach. Make an Anniversary Premium playlist? (maybe throw Unearthed into the Anniversary Firefight)

They should make a premimum battle like before and owners of defiant and noble map pack can ony play it. that should make it easy… bring it back . and can anyone one tell me how can i play now with latest update if i wana play on noble or difiant map pack

> I don’t know if this is possible with Reach’s matchmaking algorithms, but maybe we can do the following:
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> Condense all the anniversary playlists and dlc playlists into one solitary ‘Premium Squad’ playlist. requirements will be ownership of Noble AND/OR Defiant AND/OR Anniversary map packs (you can only play if you own at least one of them). therefore you will only be matched up against players who own the same dlc as you.

It’s not that simple; in fact, there is no simple answer to the DLC problem.

You can’t have, as you suggest, one playlist for both small team (e.g., 4 v 4) and BTB game play. Having Solitary/Uplink/Battle Canyon and Breakneck/Breakpoint/Ridgeline on the same playlist doesn’t make sense. It would take at least two playlists. Either that, or some of the maps would have to be left out.

For some reason, every time a DLC playlist has been made available, it has omitted certain maps that require DLC. For instance, the Premium Battle playlist that this thread is asking to be reinstated did not have Uplink and Temptation in it. I don’t think leaving out any maps that require owning DLC is a good idea.

A related problem: When the Defiant playlist was the DLC required playlist, it had Breakpoint on it, but not for Slayer type games. And initially the Warthogs on Highlands and Tempest were replaced with Mongooses, because of team size (this was subsequently corrected). These types of game play restrictions are not a good thing.

Such playlists also have the inherent problem of deciding which DLC are required. For instance, when Defiant and Noble map packs were required for Premium Battle, those who owned only one map pack felt cheated. When the Anniversary map pack became a requirement as well, this made even more people agitated. Furthermore, these playlists have population problems, which would be exacerbated if there were map pack specific playlists (e.g., one for Noble, one for Defiant). Nevertheless, something needs to be done; I believe the current situation is inappropriate and unacceptable.

Summing up, from my perspective we need to have at least two playlists for DLC maps and all DLC-required maps should be included in at least one of them (depending on map size). I think 343i needs to bite the bullet on this despite the population of such playlists, because of their obligation to those who purchased DLC expecting to be able to play on the maps. And I don’t think we should have to wait until 2012 for this to happen.

Unfortunately, I don’t think anything is going to happen before the January update. It may even be the case that no further changes will be made, which I think will leave a bad taste in too many mouths.