With Halo 5, 343 decided to introduce a new feature called Smartscope. Smartscope is not very different from the classic zooming but yet it doesn’t really fit the Halo universe. The way zooming worked in every other Halo games was designed to prevent spartans from having to use their scope. I don’t know the full story but I know Smartscope doesn’t fit the zooming link spartans had in previous Halo titles.
I can understand why 343 wants to add this feature in Halo but to me it doesn’t feel like a change that was necessary at all, it even feels like something that doesn’t fit Halo and takes away an aspect of the franchise that made it unique and different.
Reading the forums and Reddit, I can say with a good amount of confidence that atleast 75% of the community wants the classic zooming feature to return instead of Smartscope.
Smartscope has a delay on zooming in which is especially visible on the Sniper Rifle and Rocket Launcher which changes gameplay. Not only does it change gameplay, it also changes some of the beautiful and iconic weapondesigns of weapons we had in previous Halo games. (Rocket Launcher)
Bringing back classic zooming will be possible without having to remove the zooming feature from the Assault Rifle, the way the AR zooming works basically fits in the fiction of Halo’s zooming mechanic from other Halo games. Bringing back classic zooming does mean there are some design changes needed but it will be worth it in the long run. It will make Halo feel more unique again and will make de-scoping and overall aiming a much better experience and there is plenty of time left to make this change.
The SMG scope could be changed to something similar to the one from Halo 3: ODST so you can still use the zooming feature on it with classic zooming.
The benefits of Classic zooming:
No delay on zooming in
No delay on zooming in after being de-scoped
No big scope around the zoom
Better and more iconic looking weapon designs
No increase in accuracy while zooming in
Please make sure to share this around and comment with your thoughts to make 343 aware of this, classic zooming fits Halo much better and it’s important to get this back in the full Halo 5 game and future Halo titles.
No, leave it how it is. This isn’t old halo. It’s the new generation. If you want your classic zoom, go back and play the older games. The new scoping feels fine, smooth and doesn’t disrupt the analog stick. Kudos to 343, which has done a fine job with the new game. Can’t wait till the full release
Meh, I’m totally fine with the new scope.
I was really against it at first, but it’s actually grown on me. I dig it. Not to mention it looks pretty cool.
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> Meh, I’m totally fine with the new scope.
> I was really against it at first, but it’s actually grown on me. I dig it. Not to mention it looks pretty cool.
except for the DMR scope, that one doesn’t look cool at all
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> No, leave it how it is. This isn’t old halo. It’s the new generation. If you want your classic zoom, go back and play the older games. The new scoping feels fine, smooth and doesn’t disrupt the analog stick. Kudos to 343, which has done a fine job with the new game. Can’t wait till the full release
Nobody said I want another old Halo. I like what 343 did with Halo 5 and I don’t hate Smartscope but I’m not a fan of the fact that it was not needed and it does actually change the gameplay because there is a delay in zooming with it. If 343 removes the delay and makes it identical to classic zooming (except the way it look) than I’m with it.
I don’t like how they changed the Rocket launcher design to a green tube that just looks like a normal rocket launcher in real life, it had an iconic look and now it’s gone.
I also can’t wait for the full release of Halo 5 just to make that clear.
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> No, leave it how it is. This isn’t old halo. It’s the new generation. If you want your classic zoom, go back and play the older games. The new scoping feels fine, smooth and doesn’t disrupt the analog stick. Kudos to 343, which has done a fine job with the new game. Can’t wait till the full release
Um…no. Not only did the OG scope make the game feel more like halo but in all honesty it worked much better for a game like halo. This guy knows what he’s talking about. 343i needs to get rid of Smartscope.
I agree with OP. Classic scope is a superior version of zoom. Looking cool should take a back seat to functionality and Classic scope with descope is simply more functional and efficient than Smart Scope. When adding features to Halo they should not add ones that tend to take away options from the player and to me Smart Scope is one of those features.
At the bare minimum, smart scope should activate as fast as the original zoom did.
The decision to introduce ‘smart scope’ just reeks of cynical pandering to a different audience. The lore of the implants/smart-link scopes in past games explained why we had reticles. In fact the the whole point was to explain why we didn’t need to bring our weapon up to our face to zoom.
Smart Scope is a straight downgrade from original zoom in terms of player field of view and activation speed. It also serves to water down the sandbox by giving every weapon a zoom, something that was originally a weapon trait. For example I don’t mind the idea of an AR having a zoom, we have not really had an auto with a scope outside of ODST and a bit of H2A multi, that is a unique type of weapon we have not had before. However once it is also added to the SMG that uniqueness evaporates and only gets worse when you consider that all the other weapons have it as well.
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> > No, leave it how it is. This isn’t old halo. It’s the new generation. If you want your classic zoom, go back and play the older games. The new scoping feels fine, smooth and doesn’t disrupt the analog stick. Kudos to 343, which has done a fine job with the new game. Can’t wait till the full release
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> Um…no. Not only did the OG scope make the game feel more like halo but in all honesty it worked much better for a game like halo. This guy knows what he’s talking about. 343i needs to get rid of Smartscope.
No it’s fine how it is. Leave it. It’s next gen not old gen
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> > > No, leave it how it is. This isn’t old halo. It’s the new generation. If you want your classic zoom, go back and play the older games. The new scoping feels fine, smooth and doesn’t disrupt the analog stick. Kudos to 343, which has done a fine job with the new game. Can’t wait till the full release
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> No it’s fine how it is. Leave it. It’s next gen not old gen
Sorry bud. But just cause it’s new doesn’t mean they need to change everything.
This along with Sprint and the design of the Rocket Launcher are my 3 biggest problems with the game, everything else is minor. If we don’t get a toggle for traditional scope and sprint is taken out I won’t be buying this game. If both are taken out but the Rockets aren’t changed I’ll still buy it but I’ll be right here complaining again with everyone else because no one likes the new rockets, the only thing everyone agrees on.
The smart scope still fits in canon. In fact “smart scope” is the actual canon name given to what many call “zoom”. The point was that the HUD projects a holographic display of the targeting reticle while zooming in. That’s still what happens, as your hud still zooms in and projects a holographic display. The physical aiming feature is just common sense to held steady the weapon for the Spartan.
If you weren’t looking through the scope in canon, then none of the weapons would need physical scopes, and every weapon would be scopeable. Which is exactly what happened here, we just see the Spartan raise the gun this time, which any soldier is trained to do when aiming.
playing on recon settings makes the difference negligible. Though I agree the sniper needs a faster zoom.
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> > No, leave it how it is. This isn’t old halo. It’s the new generation. If you want your classic zoom, go back and play the older games. The new scoping feels fine, smooth and doesn’t disrupt the analog stick. Kudos to 343, which has done a fine job with the new game. Can’t wait till the full release
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> Um…no. Not only did the OG scope make the game feel more like halo but in all honesty it worked much better for a game like halo. This guy knows what he’s talking about. 343i needs to get rid of Smartscope.
Glad you agree, I think I gave some pretty good arguments and solutions why it needs to return.
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> At the bare minimum, smart scope should activate as fast as the original zoom did.
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> Smart Scope is a straight downgrade from original zoom in terms of player field of view and activation speed. It also serves to water down the sandbox by giving every weapon a zoom, something that was originally a weapon trait. For example I don’t mind the idea of an AR having a zoom, we have not really had an auto with a scope outside of ODST and a bit of H2A multi, that is a unique type of weapon we have not had before. However once it is also added to the SMG that uniqueness evaporates and only gets worse when you consider that all the other weapons have it as well.
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> > > No, leave it how it is. This isn’t old halo. It’s the new generation. If you want your classic zoom, go back and play the older games. The new scoping feels fine, smooth and doesn’t disrupt the analog stick. Kudos to 343, which has done a fine job with the new game. Can’t wait till the full release
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> No it’s fine how it is. Leave it. It’s next gen not old gen
But there is nothing next gen about this, just a bunch of gimmicks.
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> > > > No, leave it how it is. This isn’t old halo. It’s the new generation. If you want your classic zoom, go back and play the older games. The new scoping feels fine, smooth and doesn’t disrupt the analog stick. Kudos to 343, which has done a fine job with the new game. Can’t wait till the full release
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> But there is nothing next gen about this, just a bunch of gimmicks.
I don’t understand why people think it’s next gen, it’s just a gimmick indeed.