BRING BACK CASTLE WARS

Please bring back Castle WARs :frowning: oddball is so boring the only objective is to hold the ball longer than the enemy, you guys switched out the funniest best game mode for this?? i would rather storm a Castle and get their flag back to my base than to play oddball?? please bring it back or atleast add a fun mode like warzone tubro. Everything else is boring

I can agree that Castle Wars is a lot of fun, but Oddball is a classic Halo mode. I was suprised that they didn’t add that in with an update or so.
I’m sure that there will be a way of playing Castle Wars in the future.

No mode never truly dies in Halo.

I’m already missing Castle Wars!

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> I can agree that Castle Wars is a lot of fun, but Oddball is a classic Halo mode. I was suprised that they didn’t add that in with an update or so.
> I’m sure that there will be a way of playing Castle Wars in the future.
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> No mode never truly dies in Halo.

Spot on a lot of people have been asking for oddball since day one wish they merged it into arena cause it would be fun to see how the pros played it in hcs, it’s hard to have too many playlists with the population dwindling aswell

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> Please bring back Castle WARs :frowning: oddball is so boring the only objective is to hold the ball longer than the enemy, you guys switched out the funniest best game mode for this?? i would rather storm a Castle and get their flag back to my base than to play oddball?? please bring it back or atleast add a fun mode like warzone tubro. Everything else is boring

I think that Castle Wars is not the firts awesome mode that got removed. I’m still waiting for the return of mythic shotty snipers.
Do you guys remember the times whre Super Fiesta wasn’t a fixed mode?
we had to wait weeks to be able to play that mode again.

Anyway, i feel your pain. Castle Wars is a really good gamemode and I’m awaiting its return.

Castle wars is beyond boring IMO. Oddball is much better. Besides, you can always go into the Customs browser if you want to play castle wars again. People always have it up.

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> Castle wars is beyond boring IMO. Oddball is much better. Besides, you can always go into the Customs browser if you want to play castle wars again. People always have it up.

it must be boring cause you either play alone or suck at it. Gets extremely intense. And yeah you can go into custom browsers but you dont get rp for that and theres usually only the original map.

I’m surprised they didn’t throw Castle Wars into the Big Team Battle playlist. It’s a fun 8 versus 8 game mode and it’s capture the flag. It’s practically begging to be put into that playlist.

Oddball may not be as fun because it’s not even a real oddball mode. That being said, I wasn’t a fan of Castle Wars so I don’t care if it stays gone.

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> I’m surprised they didn’t throw Castle Wars into the Big Team Battle playlist. It’s a fun 8 versus 8 game mode and it’s capture the flag. It’s practically begging to be put into that playlist.

It’s 8v8, but that doesn’t mean it belongs in BTB. It’s more of an Action Sack gametype and I think it would be an insult if it was put in BTB. Just because it’s social doesn’t make that a valid excuse to dump any kind of gametype in the playlist. A lot of people take BTB seriously and view it as a legitimate playlist that could be ranked even though 343 hardly gives a crap about it. I think it would be another slap to the face of BTB fans if 343 did that.

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> I can agree that Castle Wars is a lot of fun, but Oddball is a classic Halo mode. I was suprised that they didn’t add that in with an update or so.
> I’m sure that there will be a way of playing Castle Wars in the future.
>
> No mode never truly dies in Halo.

What about Dominion or Invasion? :c

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> > Castle wars is beyond boring IMO. Oddball is much better. Besides, you can always go into the Customs browser if you want to play castle wars again. People always have it up.
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> it must be boring cause you either play alone or suck at it. Gets extremely intense. And yeah you can go into custom browsers but you dont get rp for that and theres usually only the original map.

Ya, no need to attack someone saying they suck, might want to refrain from that… and, no… I don’t suck at all and I don’t play alone, I just find it boring.

You can play all the maps in custom browser just the person running it has to change the map after the match is done it’s pretty simple.

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> > Please bring back Castle WARs :frowning: oddball is so boring the only objective is to hold the ball longer than the enemy, you guys switched out the funniest best game mode for this?? i would rather storm a Castle and get their flag back to my base than to play oddball?? please bring it back or atleast add a fun mode like warzone tubro. Everything else is boring
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> I think that Castle Wars is not the firts awesome mode that got removed. I’m still waiting for the return of mythic shotty snipers.
> Do you guys remember the times whre Super Fiesta wasn’t a fixed mode?
> we had to wait weeks to be able to play that mode again.
>
> Anyway, i feel your pain. Castle Wars is a really good gamemode and I’m awaiting its return.

Now that you said that, yes i do remember when super fiesta wasnt a permanent game mode, i had so fun With it and kept praying they would make it a playlist and they sure as hell did so im so happy for that. if we only can say the same for Castle wars though… crossing my fingers it gets its own playlist like super fiesta…

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> Please bring back Castle WARs :frowning: oddball is so boring the only objective is to hold the ball longer than the enemy, you guys switched out the funniest best game mode for this?? i would rather storm a Castle and get their flag back to my base than to play oddball?? please bring it back or atleast add a fun mode like warzone tubro. Everything else is boring

No. That gamemode should stay in the grave where it belongs. Castle wars is just grifball with a flag and no hammers, nothing more.

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> I’m surprised they didn’t throw Castle Wars into the Big Team Battle playlist. It’s a fun 8 versus 8 game mode and it’s capture the flag. It’s practically begging to be put into that playlist.

There’s a reason why most BTB players don’t want it in rotation. The game mode gets stale extremely fast, and provides little to no vehicular combat. It might be fun for a temp-gamemode, but that should NOT warrant it being in any of the perm playlists.

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> > Castle wars is beyond boring IMO. Oddball is much better. Besides, you can always go into the Customs browser if you want to play castle wars again. People always have it up.
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> it must be boring cause you either play alone or suck at it. Gets extremely intense. And yeah you can go into custom browsers but you dont get rp for that and theres usually only the original map.

OH BOY, THE “Everyone one I don’t like is X” RESPONSE! HOW ORIGINAL!

This is sarcasm, if you couldn’t tell. Stop being so self centered about “MUH CASTLE WARS” and grow up, please and thanks.

I Miss Castle Wars :frowning: <\3 Please keep me updated on any news of its upcoming re-installment.

-kittycheapshot

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> I can agree that Castle Wars is a lot of fun, but Oddball is a classic Halo mode. I was suprised that they didn’t add that in with an update or so.
> I’m sure that there will be a way of playing Castle Wars in the future.
>
> No mode never truly dies in Halo.

What doesn’t make sense to me is why oddball is only available for a limited time when it used to be available all the time (back in the Halo 3 days).

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> No. That gamemode should stay in the grave where it belongs. Castle wars is just grifball with a flag and no hammers, nothing more.

Oh, the “this is what I believe so it must be true,” argument. Just because you feel that way, doesn’t mean everyone else or even the majority does. I started a poll on this matter a while ago and it appears you are actually in the minority :wink:

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> There’s a reason why most BTB players don’t want it in rotation. The game mode gets stale extremely fast, and provides little to no vehicular combat. It might be fun for a temp-gamemode, but that should NOT warrant it being in any of the perm playlists.

Little to no vehicular combat? Each map has at least one mongoose and one warthog on both sides; some have four mongooses and two warthogs. I experience more vehicular combat in Castle Wars than I do most other playlists so I’m not sure what you’re on about. Probably isn’t a great fit for BTB rotation, but I disagree that it gets stale. I played it from the moment it came out to the moment it went away and I still want to play it.

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> OH BOY, THE “Everyone one I don’t like is X” RESPONSE! HOW ORIGINAL!
> This is sarcasm, if you couldn’t tell. Stop being so self centered about “MUH CASTLE WARS” and grow up, please and thanks.

You make statements like this and then tell others to grow up? Interesting character, you are.

Just play it in customs. There is usually always a few of them going.

Yeah I miss castle wars only for the hog and goose destroy comms… seemed to be the best game mode for it so far

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> > 2533274992977021;2:
> > I can agree that Castle Wars is a lot of fun, but Oddball is a classic Halo mode. I was suprised that they didn’t add that in with an update or so.
> > I’m sure that there will be a way of playing Castle Wars in the future.
> >
> > No mode never truly dies in Halo.
>
> What doesn’t make sense to me is why oddball is only available for a limited time when it used to be available all the time (back in the Halo 3 days).
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> > No. That gamemode should stay in the grave where it belongs. Castle wars is just grifball with a flag and no hammers, nothing more.
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> Oh, the “this is what I believe so it must be true,” argument. Just because you feel that way, doesn’t mean everyone else or even the majority does. I started a poll on this matter a while ago and it appears you are actually in the minority :wink:
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> > There’s a reason why most BTB players don’t want it in rotation. The game mode gets stale extremely fast, and provides little to no vehicular combat. It might be fun for a temp-gamemode, but that should NOT warrant it being in any of the perm playlists.
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> Little to no vehicular combat? Each map has at least one mongoose and one warthog on both sides; some have four mongooses and two warthogs. I experience more vehicular combat in Castle Wars than I do most other playlists so I’m not sure what you’re on about. Probably isn’t a great fit for BTB rotation, but I disagree that it gets stale. I played it from the moment it came out to the moment it went away and I still want to play it.
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> > 2535442303795050;13:
> > OH BOY, THE “Everyone one I don’t like is X” RESPONSE! HOW ORIGINAL!
> > This is sarcasm, if you couldn’t tell. Stop being so self centered about “MUH CASTLE WARS” and grow up, please and thanks.
>
> You make statements like this and then tell others to grow up? Interesting character, you are.

“Oh, the “this is what I believe so it must be true,” argument. Just because you feel that way, doesn’t mean everyone else or even the majority does. I started a poll on this matter a while ago and it appears you are actually in the minority ;-)”

Congrats, you polled custom games people. Not matchmaking people that actually play the games online for what they are, thus nullifying your “poll”.

“Little to no vehicular combat? Each map has at least one mongoose and one warthog on both sides; some have four mongooses and two warthogs. I experience more vehicular combat in Castle Wars than I do most other playlists so I’m not sure what you’re on about. Probably isn’t a great fit for BTB rotation, but I disagree that it gets stale. I played it from the moment it came out to the moment it went away and I still want to play it.”

Scout vehicles vs swords =/= vehicular combat, lets get one thing straight. If you can’t attack/shoot other vehicles/things whilst in a vehicle, then it’s not that. That’s melee combat, if anything.

“You make statements like this and then tell others to grow up? Interesting character, you are.”

Oh, so now I’m in the wrong for trying to defend someone from unneeded attacks like the one quoted? Yeah ok, that makes total sense /sarcasm.

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> Congrats, you polled custom games people. Not matchmaking people that actually play the games online for what they are, thus nullifying your “poll”.

I polled the general community, which isn’t just made up of “custom games people.” My poll is perfectly valid unless you have evidence to suggest otherwise :wink:

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> Scout vehicles vs swords =/= vehicular combat, lets get one thing straight. If you can’t attack/shoot other vehicles/things whilst in a vehicle, then it’s not that. That’s melee combat, if anything.

You can melee, stick, and hijack vehicles: That definitely qualifies as combat. Since vehicles are involved, that makes it vehicular. You can also ram a vehicle with another vehicle to push them off the ledge. Still vehicular combat.

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> Oh, so now I’m in the wrong for trying to defend someone from unneeded attacks like the one quoted? Yeah ok, that makes total sense /sarcasm.

Denoting every statement with “that’s sarcasm, by the way,” is pretty immature. Might want to hire someone to proofread your posts…

You do realize that you’re essentially saying not to incorporate CORE Halo game modes into the game with this post, right? …for a new and experimental, casual game mode that should just be incorporated into Action Sack in attempts to satisfy that segment of the community? …all while 343 has ignored widespread feedback since launch regarding Oddball/staple modes that have been missing?

This is basically exactly what has been damaging Halo since Reach. Formulaic changes to the experience. This is a multi-faceted issue… in Reach and H4 is was changes to gameplay formula and the addition of loadouts, AA’s, and general imbalances… with H5, it seems to be much more about the lack of CORE content within the whole suite/package, and promoting this divisive, dumbed down multiplayer experience… another change in formula that wasn’t warranted, or asked for.

Basically every long-time Halo fan I’ve spoken with has had nothing but bad things to say about Castle Wars. And rather than completeing CORE content in the game, 343 had prioritized Castle Wars over ODDBALL. It’s been close to TWO years and we’ve had a game without Oddball, Juggernaut, KOTH, Territories… playlists like Snipers… we don’t even have a traditional BTB experience with dev maps. And I have not seen the kind of promotion out of 343 for Oddball, NEARLY to the same magnitude as they did Castle Wars… maybe I just haven’t been paying attention. But not only do I find this sad on its own, Oddball was also completely half-baked and bug-ridden when the playlist launched… There is SO MUCH that is wrong with this picture!

The CORE game has been compromised again, for new-age Halo fans that are clearly in the minority, that are completely blind to its effects. With declines of sales and population figures, and the absense of CORE content, up to the standard and quality set by the Halo games of old… tried and true Halo fans have not been getting what they want!

And it’s not just Oddball… it’s a lot more, things that the community obviously took for granted in past titles… where if 343 just understood the game and it’s prior successes, and player expectations, and stopped trying to dumb it down for the “modern gamer” and try to please literally everyone with their own dedicated modes, at the expense of CORE modes and content, Halo would be in a much better place… getting a bit off topic here, but it ALL indirectly comes back and ties into the issue at hand here.

All the while, old Halo games never had any issue supporting all communities with their intelligent and modular design philosophy, that was very “variety (and) value-minded.” You could make any mode work on any map… Castle Wars could just as easily been a variant on H3 on Valhalla or something, but we don’t even have dev BTB maps in H5… not a good decision. I mean Valhalla supported 4v4 MM, 5v5… BTB… and it would’ve supported a wealth of H5 community created modes just as well, if you apply the same context and ideals to the design of H5.

There are better ways to support the community! The core game has suffered…