I just want to play CTF. Why can’t I play just CTF. No, I have to chance playing CTF. I will usually get suck playing Breakout ten times in a row. Then I’ll play Strongholds ten times in a row, on the same maps BTW. Then, I’ll play slayer ten times in a row. Finally, I’ll play one CTF; and get my *** kicked because my team sucks or backed out. Please divide “team arena” so I can select CTF when I want to play CTF.
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> I just want to play CTF. Why can’t I play just CTF. No, I have to chance playing CTF. I will usually get suck playing Breakout ten times in a row. Then I’ll play Strongholds ten times in a row, on the same maps BTW. Then, I’ll play slayer ten times in a row. Finally, I’ll play one CTF; and get my *** kicked because my team sucks or backed out. Please divide “team arena” so I can select CTF when I want to play CTF.
Bad idea, keep the population together, don’t fragment it into further bits.
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> > I just want to play CTF. Why can’t I play just CTF. No, I have to chance playing CTF. I will usually get suck playing Breakout ten times in a row. Then I’ll play Strongholds ten times in a row, on the same maps BTW. Then, I’ll play slayer ten times in a row. Finally, I’ll play one CTF; and get my *** kicked because my team sucks or backed out. Please divide “team arena” so I can select CTF when I want to play CTF.
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Halo regularly puts up 30,000+ players. Don’t give me that -Yoink-.
just add other gametypes
I think because CTF did so poorly in MCC and Halo 4 (Had too few players) compared to other gametypes 343 decided to lump it together (Strongholds got the same treatment). That’s also the whole reason they are doing the weekend playlists and stuff to try and keep the matchmaking up. It’s smart of 343 to do so, even if it is copying Bungie’s Destiny; but hey, whatever works right?
Team Arena should ONLY include what already doesn’t have a dedicated playlist. Which means strongholds and capture the flag (from what we currently have as options). Slayer and breakout have their own so if I wanted to play those I would go to that playlist.
I think if they made CTF it’s own playlist you would be hard pressed to find a game sometimes. At least now with the team arena list you know your going to find a match quickly. I like the idea of just an objective playlist with some slayer thrown in there, but i dont think breakout works. Remove breakout and I think the playlist would be much better.
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> > > I just want to play CTF. Why can’t I play just CTF. No, I have to chance playing CTF. I will usually get suck playing Breakout ten times in a row. Then I’ll play Strongholds ten times in a row, on the same maps BTW. Then, I’ll play slayer ten times in a row. Finally, I’ll play one CTF; and get my *** kicked because my team sucks or backed out. Please divide “team arena” so I can select CTF when I want to play CTF.
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They’re enough players online at a time to not “fragment” the game. At least make it an objective game type and take out Slayer and Breakout.
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> > > I just want to play CTF. Why can’t I play just CTF. No, I have to chance playing CTF. I will usually get suck playing Breakout ten times in a row. Then I’ll play Strongholds ten times in a row, on the same maps BTW. Then, I’ll play slayer ten times in a row. Finally, I’ll play one CTF; and get my *** kicked because my team sucks or backed out. Please divide “team arena” so I can select CTF when I want to play CTF.
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Like it or not but too many play list will fragment the population and this has a negative impact on finding quality matches in both skill and connection quality.
I like the arena list as it is. It’s a good mixture of games. Splitting it out wouldn’t help anything. It would take a small portion of the arena list players and segregate them. I certainly don’t think there are enough players who want CTF only to make that a viable option.
I’m not sure separate playlists would be the best way to go. However, I fully support removing breakout and slayer from team arena. I only play team arena since it has basically everything. If the redundant game types were removed, I would go to the other playlists more. I don’t really understand why breakout and slayer are on multiple playlists, while CTF and Strongholds have to share a single playlist (not only with each other but also with breakout and slayer).
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> > > I just want to play CTF. Why can’t I play just CTF. No, I have to chance playing CTF. I will usually get suck playing Breakout ten times in a row. Then I’ll play Strongholds ten times in a row, on the same maps BTW. Then, I’ll play slayer ten times in a row. Finally, I’ll play one CTF; and get my *** kicked because my team sucks or backed out. Please divide “team arena” so I can select CTF when I want to play CTF.
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How do you know that exactly? There is no population counter.
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> I’m not sure separate playlists would be the best way to go. However, I fully support removing breakout and slayer from team arena. I only play team arena since it has basically everything. If the redundant game types were removed, I would go to the other playlists more. I don’t really understand why breakout and slayer are on multiple playlists, while CTF and Strongholds have to share a single playlist (not only with each other but also with breakout and slayer).
That’s what I’m screaming. If dividing TA would “fragment” the community, then at least remove Slayer and Breakout.
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> > > I just want to play CTF. Why can’t I play just CTF. No, I have to chance playing CTF. I will usually get suck playing Breakout ten times in a row. Then I’ll play Strongholds ten times in a row, on the same maps BTW. Then, I’ll play slayer ten times in a row. Finally, I’ll play one CTF; and get my *** kicked because my team sucks or backed out. Please divide “team arena” so I can select CTF when I want to play CTF.
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R u kidding? I played Halo Reach two days ago and there were only 15000 players. Check your facts before you start posting that -Yoink-.
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> > > > I just want to play CTF. Why can’t I play just CTF. No, I have to chance playing CTF. I will usually get suck playing Breakout ten times in a row. Then I’ll play Strongholds ten times in a row, on the same maps BTW. Then, I’ll play slayer ten times in a row. Finally, I’ll play one CTF; and get my *** kicked because my team sucks or backed out. Please divide “team arena” so I can select CTF when I want to play CTF.
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Go the XBL store and the top 10 most popular games are listed. 30,000 is a rough estimate because exact numbers aren’t given, but it’s a bare minimum based on the population numbers of the games whose publishers/developers do list theirs. It’s updated in real time if I’m not mistaken, and doesn’t even take into account unique daily users, so if anything 30,000 is a conservative estimate.
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> Like it or not but too many play list will fragment the population and this has a negative impact on finding quality matches in both skill and connection quality.
This is a concern for old games and games which were never blockbusters to begin with, not a AAA game in the flagship franchise of the console manufacturer 3 months after release. And incidentally, I never once saw the argument that Halo can’t support the amount if playlists it has, well, always had until the MCC. Pardon me if I don’t think anything can be extrapolated from that compound fracture of a game without a huge, swollen asterisk of “but it could also be because this collection spent half its life nonfunctional and the other half working but still pretty broken”.
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> R u kidding? I played Halo Reach two days ago and there were only 15000 players. Check your facts before you start posting that -Yoink-.
I really didn’t think I had to specify this, but I am referring to the current and latest supported game in the series. Not the five year old game on a console which has been abandoned.
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> I just want to play CTF. Why can’t I play just CTF. No, I have to chance playing CTF. I will usually get suck playing Breakout ten times in a row. Then I’ll play Strongholds ten times in a row, on the same maps BTW. Then, I’ll play slayer ten times in a row. Finally, I’ll play one CTF; and get my *** kicked because my team sucks or backed out. Please divide “team arena” so I can select CTF when I want to play CTF.
Been there when trying to max out, played every game mod dozens of time and the rare odd game of CFC I got in ( joined two ) my team was rubbish. Must have played 50 games just toget the ONE Carrier take down!
I’d love to see Team Arena evolve into a true Team Objective playlist. No Slayer, no Breakout.
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It has not been abandoned. Check your facts.
I’d like to see Team Arena replaced with a “ranked” Skirmished playlist that combines Multi-Flag CTF and Strongholds with Ricochet and 1-Site Extraction. I’d argue that those non-slayer based objective modes are four of the best for 4v4 competitive play and each provides a fairly different experience and a required strategy. The ARENA already has a “ranked” Slayer playlist to play the same slayer based mode that’s in Team Arena and there’s the “ranked” Breakout playlists to play pretty much the same maps that are in Team Arena too. To me the only reason to play Team Arena is for the chance at playing CTF and Strongholds; plus, I understand that its a single location to play the modes that are featured within the Halo World Championship Series, but it’s not like players can’t simply bounce between 3 playlists in their attempt to practice or warm up for that experience. IMO, that playlist is a hindrance in 343i’s attempt to expand Halo 5’s game mode variety without over fracturing the population with too many ARENA playlists.
I completely agree with OP. I’d love to be able to choose the specific game mode (CTF, strongholds, etc.) rather than leave it to chance. It would be nice if we could at least vote of the game mode and map as with older halo games.