I do not like BR starts i personally think it hurts the sandbox experience as most people who want it, then never use another gun.
BUT. I know others want it and love it so why not this…
Why not have an option in the menu for BTB to choose the default starting weapon between AR and BR. This way it’s done for the individual. I’m not saying load outs, not at all but a simple ‘AR’ or ‘BR’ option would seem to solve this problem. I’ve seen many want the BR and man want to keep the AR and I can see the reasoning on both sides and after a long ponder at a boring day at work I can’t really see a large balance issue to letting people start with either the BR and AR.
Also if you vote for AR or BR i’d actually like to hear why you think a choice option isn’t the way to go, genuinely interested and keen for that discussion.
Menu option to have an AR or BR start in BTB.
Keep AR starts
Change to BR starts
AR AND BR STARTS. Some men just wanna watch the world burn.
I think the larger map sizes make sense for the BR. Every time I spawn in in BTB I immediately swap one of my weapons for a BR or a Commando anyways. I think if you let players choose which weapon they started with, it would be more advantageous to just go BR 100% of the time because it has more range.
But the whole idea of the choice is not forcing those who want the AR start to be forced to have a BR start (much like right now you’re forced to have the AR start over the one you want)
There is no downside to allowing players to choose between one or the other. I personally don’t care for long range engagements so to me the BR is actually rarely used, i favour the Commando over it almost every time.
I think AR players would still be at a disadvantage. If I am understanding it correctly, what you are describing sounds pretty similar to a loadout system.
One thing that I think would be a nice compromise is to just have 2 different BTB gametypes, one with BR and one with AR starts. They could both be in the same playlist. This way, everyone still starts with equal weapons but there are sometimes AR games and sometimes BR games.
I genuinely don’t see its a huge enough disadvantage. That’s the freedom of the choice though, I honestly wouldn’t mind having an AR start vs BR starts even though i know i can be out ranged. I think allowing players to choose is a better option that having 2 game types as it fractures the player base if you split the game types.
The AR starts are to make the games more free flowing. If everyone had BR in 12 v 12 players would get lit up like a Christmas Tree. There would be far less freedom, right now I can’t engage in some fights from spawn if the enemy is too far away, that’s how it should be to create a more fun environment.
It also means players will use more of the Sandbox. I’ll usually drop my Sidekick for something but I’ve been using way more weapons where in older games I’d just dominate with the BR.
Ranked BTB is their answer. Majority of the changes to BTB including AR start was to target the social players and drive competitive players out of there (IMO). It’s worked to some extent, All of my friends that have played BTB for years refuse to touch this BTB, they’re in ranked instead.
BR start, vehicles spawned in from the start and no spawn flips would work. This would also drive a lot of the full teams that are kicking about in social BTB to go there and play each other. Also I think a ranked version of this game type would need the 8v8 back instead of 12v12.
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That’s what it’s all about. It’s preference at the end of the day, Players play with different mind sets. They’ve had BTB teams come from all the other Halo’s to compete with each other on here so Ranked would thrive and casuals wouldn’t be getting spawn trapped by these teams. It’s a no brainer, I’d even help them structure the ranked BTB maps if that’s what it takes.
The maps we have (Why are there only 3 btw?) clearly are not designed with BR starts in mind. They’re far too open and would turn in whackamole plinking across the map with your pocket sniper.
They could always bring back reqs like halo 5 and give you the option to earn weapons after each game that you could call in when you start the next game.
Agree with the comment of casuals getting wrecked with BR starts. I like how it is now even though sometimes I struggle to find a good wep and just have to run with the AR and Pistol…
I mean BR and AR starts would be fine, i’ve played countless of Hrs in H3 where we had both and I never had a problem. Only now that some have BRs and other don’t. It really feels bad to play BTB.
