BR starts makes this game the CoD: Ghosts of Halo

I normally love BR starts, but it just doesn’t work in this game. Either remove sprint and thruster or take out BR starts.

Or better yet, pistol starts. Yes, that would be amazing. All hail CE.

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> I normally love BR starts, but it just doesn’t work in this game. Either remove sprint and thruster or take out BR starts.
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> Or better yet, pistol starts. Yes, that would be amazing. All hail CE.

Pistol starts would be much better as that gun wouldn’t benefit from a 30 meter radar. Probably would encourage more use of other guns.

Great idea. :smiley:

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> I normally love BR starts, but it just doesn’t work in this game. Either remove sprint and thruster or take out BR starts.
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> Or better yet, pistol starts. Yes, that would be amazing. All hail CE.

Sprint and Thruster are absolutely 100% fine, but the BR starts need to go, it’s high damage and high rate of fire make it ridiculously overpowered. There should never be more than one or two on the field at once, when everyone starts spawning with them, things get insane and how imbalanced and broken it is really starts to shine.

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> > I normally love BR starts, but it just doesn’t work in this game. Either remove sprint and thruster or take out BR starts.
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> > Or better yet, pistol starts. Yes, that would be amazing. All hail CE.
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> Sprint and Thruster are absolutely 100% fine, but the BR starts need to go, it’s high damage and high rate of fire make it ridiculously overpowered. There should never be more than one or two on the field at once, when everyone starts spawning with them, things get insane and how imbalanced and broken it is really starts to shine.

Thruster almost feels game breaking to me. Kind of wish we had a chance to go back and try Pistol/AR starts again.

Id go with the remove sprint part.

Why don’t they work in this game?

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> Why don’t they work in this game?

Seems every game has a few players that just take pot shots. Never have I had to take it this slow in a Halo game.

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> I normally love BR starts, but it just doesn’t work in this game. Either remove sprint and thruster or take out BR starts.
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> Or better yet, pistol starts. Yes, that would be amazing. All hail CE.

Is it hard to at least exain why? Lol

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> Seems every game has a few players that just take pot shots. Never have I had to take it this slow in a Halo game.

Ya, thats what happens you stretch out maps to compensate for sprint.

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> > Seems every game has a few players that just take pot shots. Never have I had to take it this slow in a Halo game.
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> Ya, thats what happens you stretch out maps to compensate for sprint.

Not entirely, but it does have a factor in it.

To me, I stayed defensive when I see players on the radar. Always backing up to keep players away so I can kill players with close range weapons. Other times, Incan see them coming, I jump back to cover in 2 hits. Can’t risk having his friend finish me off.

While it may not be CoD:Ghosts, it feels too campy and non-engaging. It discourages map movement in too many places. AR starts don’t have this problem this severely due to how limited BRs are.

Both map and gametype needs work IMO.

Ya BR starts are an issue, but other stuff no IMO. Nice creativity in the name there, if anything it felt more like Battlefield 4 (not in regards of vehicles obviously). But I suppose most gamers here only know of 2 FPS games, CoD and Halo.

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> > 2535425310804235;1:
> > I normally love BR starts, but it just doesn’t work in this game. Either remove sprint and thruster or take out BR starts.
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> > Or better yet, pistol starts. Yes, that would be amazing. All hail CE.
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> Is it hard to at least exain why? Lol

Personally, I like Halo games because it requires high individual skill. With BR starts, this game is almost exclusively about how often you can force a 3v2 or 2v1 and who sees who first. Your own aiming/strafing/nade/battle skills are almost useless beyond Onyx.

I understand Halo is a team game but in past Halo games you could be attacked by two people and your skills would do the talking. Now you are GUARANTEED to die and not get a single kill, unless the enemies are horrid.

I would like to take out the BR & DMR entirely off the map and have pistol only starts unless they can fix all the issues with BRs in this game. Would actually require skill.

If you don’t like starting with a BR you simply don’t like Halo. There is nothing wrong with that but don’t try to come to this series and make them cater it to your liking. Just go find a different series that works for you.

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> If you don’t like starting with a BR you simply don’t like Halo. There is nothing wrong with that but don’t try to come to this series and make them cater it to your liking. Just go find a different series that works for you.

I take it you’ve only been around since Halo 2?

I love BR starts, but not in this game. It simply doesn’t work in this game as it is now. If they increase TTK, remove sprint, remove thruster, and reduce bullet magnetism, then sure - but I think we both know they aren’t going to do that.

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> > If you don’t like starting with a BR you simply don’t like Halo. There is nothing wrong with that but don’t try to come to this series and make them cater it to your liking. Just go find a different series that works for you.
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> I take it you’ve only been around since Halo 2?
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> I love BR starts, but not in this game. It simply doesn’t work in this game as it is now. If they increase TTK, remove sprint, remove thruster, and reduce bullet magnetism, then sure - but I think we both know they aren’t going to do that.

I think you have only been around from Halo 2. We had our BR’s back in Halo 1. They just looked like pistols.

I like the BR starts. AR starts is fine, but I don’t prefer it.

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> I think you have only been around from Halo 2. We had our BR’s back in Halo 1. They just looked like pistols.

Pistols that required far more skill to use properly than any future BR except for maybe Halo 3 in some cases. The CE pistol was more like a DMR without the aim assist.

As much as I like the pistol in Halo 5, simply being hard to use doesn’t make it a good starting weapon. It simply does not have the range to be an versatile starting weapon.

Unlike the CE Pistol, the Halo 5 pistol cannot effectively fight back against ranged threats. I personally don’t care what form it takes, I just want a versatile spawning weapon(I also want the weapon to be harder to use), in Halo 5 the BR fills that niche.

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> As much as I like the pistol in Halo 5, simply being hard to use doesn’t make it a good starting weapon. It simply does not have the range to be an versatile starting weapon.
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> Unlike the CE Pistol, the Halo 5 pistol cannot effectively fight back against ranged threats. I personally don’t care what form it takes, I just want a versatile spawning weapon(I also want the weapon to be harder to use), in Halo 5 the BR fills that niche.

This guy gets it, except I question whether the BR is hard enough to use.

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> > As much as I like the pistol in Halo 5, simply being hard to use doesn’t make it a good starting weapon. It simply does not have the range to be an versatile starting weapon.
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> > Unlike the CE Pistol, the Halo 5 pistol cannot effectively fight back against ranged threats. I personally don’t care what form it takes, I just want a versatile spawning weapon(I also want the weapon to be harder to use), in Halo 5 the BR fills that niche.
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> This guy gets it, except I question whether the BR is hard enough to use.

I think the BR could benefit from being harder to use. Its just hard to say things will shake out once the flinch and snap auto aim is removed. So I could not really say how much it needs to be tweaked.

I just question the logic of saying the Halo 5 BR is somehow especially bad considering the history of the BR in the series. At the very least I would say Halo 5’s general auto-aim isn’t as bad as Halo 2’s.