The BR is too accurate. Basically it can out shoot a DMR at most ranges and does more damage in close quarters then the AR. Horribly unbalanced right now.
while we’re talking about the BR…TAKE IT OFF AS THE STARTING LOADOUT WEAPON! NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO PLAY THE LONG RANGE GAME! It completely over powers any close quarter fighting, your big buster/jet pack is void most of the time, you can’t sprint away if even one of the three bullets hit you…it’s over powered. Way to accurate over long range and does to much damage in close quarters. Doesn’t need to be nerfed completely, but it does need adjusted.
Maybe in this last week, give us a playlist option…the rediculous BR start up and the Halo-like AR start up.
Let the ranting begin of people screaming that I’m terrible with the BR and I should go play something else blah, blah, blah…I don’t care, I’m not that good with the BR but you get in CQC, it’s a different story. The first week of the beta was fantastic, but since the BR loadout was introduced, I have not enjoyed this game nearly as much.
please change this feature, or at least give us an option/playlist that gives us CQC folks a fighting chance like it was the first week.
OP you must have hated every halo game post halo 1. get gud with the BR, why should i have to deal with ARs because you cant use a BR? this sounds more like a l2p issue to me.
for you OP
Thanks for the intelligent post…-Yoink-
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> OP you must have hated every halo game post halo 1. get gud with the BR, why should i have to deal with ARs because you cant use a BR? this sounds more like a l2p issue to me.
> for you OP
Why should everyone else have to deal with BRs, something that nullifies the purpose of MANY weapons? BRs should be limited. That way on small maps you don’t take one step before you get shot the hell up by everyone. And I am NOT bad with a BR. It just has never felt like the true Halo gameplay to me. It does defeat the need for any power weapons besides the sniper rifle.
Standard slayer is great because then you have: Power weapon guy here, precision weapon there, auto rifle guy there. The battles are interesting. Not : BR, BR, BR, BR, BR, BR, BR, Sniper.
I am not saying it is bad 100% of the time, and I think BR starts are great for BTB, but BR starts should be very rare, especially if it is not nerfed in some way.
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> Why should everyone else have to deal with BRs, something that nullifies the purpose of MANY weapons?
Why should everyone else have to deal with awful AR starts? BR starts should be standard since 2004 in Team Slayer.
Every good player will pick a Precision weapon over the AR any day. And a team that cant get a better weapon than the AR will get destroyed if the other team controls every weapon spawn.
Good luck having fun.
I actually find myself agreeing, personally. I like non-precision weapon starts. That way it truly becomes a game of map control and teamwork. When everyone has a BR there is no real reason to pick up another weapon, save the sniper and maybe a situational backup weapon.
The SMG is awesome in CQC, and I swear it has a headshot modifier…
> a situational backup weapon.
The utility weapon is the most versatile weapon in the game. On-map weapons are always going to be situational in comparison. Even the Rockets are fairly situational.
Anyways, I would agree that the BR feels off, but I can’t put my finger on what it is.
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Actually, I had far more even games when it was AR starts. And of course I would pick a BR over an AR at any range save near point blank. I still feel AR starts are better because the teams and players need to work for the best guns on the map, not just start with them.
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if 343 wants to emphasize skill and teamwork… give BRs to everyone the better team wins. in AR starts who ever gets the BRs first wins. its much more fair of a fight. and you are not screwed 3 mins in.
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> Why should everyone else have to deal with BRs, something that nullifies the purpose of MANY weapons? BRs should be limited. That way on small maps you don’t take one step before you get shot the hell up by everyone. And I am NOT bad with a BR. It just has never felt like the true Halo gameplay to me. It does defeat the need for any power weapons besides the sniper rifle.
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> I am not saying it is bad 100% of the time, and I think BR starts are great for BTB, but BR starts should be very rare, especially if it is not nerfed in some way.
BR starts should be the standard, they take more skill to use than the spray rifle. does MLG use ARs to start or smgs NOPE. how about this add a BR start slayer playlist and a AR start slayer playlist both parties are happy and nether of them fight. we are seperated in our own camps
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> > Why should everyone else have to deal with BRs, something that nullifies the purpose of MANY weapons? BRs should be limited. That way on small maps you don’t take one step before you get shot the hell up by everyone. And I am NOT bad with a BR. It just has never felt like the true Halo gameplay to me. It does defeat the need for any power weapons besides the sniper rifle.
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> BR starts should be the standard, they take more skill to use than the spray rifle. does MLG use ARs to start or smgs NOPE. how about this add a BR start slayer playlist and a AR start slayer playlist both parties are happy and nether of them fight. we are seperated in our own camps
I mean, by that logic, everyone who plays Halo needs to use mics and communicate well, play on LAN, know your teammates tactics, and play on max sensitivity among other things. Not everything should be compared to the ‘MLG’ standard.
AR starts are terrible.
If you get matched against good enemies and they manage to secure most of the BR’s and snipers on the map. -Yoink- that, it’s not fun.
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> > BR starts should be the standard, they take more skill to use than the spray rifle. does MLG use ARs to start or smgs NOPE. how about this add a BR start slayer playlist and a AR start slayer playlist both parties are happy and nether of them fight. we are seperated in our own camps
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> I mean, by that logic, everyone who plays Halo needs to use mics and communicate well, play on LAN, know your teammates tactics, and play on max sensitivity among other things. Not everything should be compared to the ‘MLG’ standard.
Nobody who’s actually good at games uses max sens. Most pros use 3-5.
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how does encouragement to use a mic with your team a bad thing? and where are you getting playing on lan from, its not always possible. just copy MLGs settings for team slayer playlist. theres a reason that most players support them because they have a balanced gametype + map varient
Those against AR starts say “Whoever gets the BR on the map first wins.” And “BR starts have been standard since 2004.”
BR starts needed to be standard because the BR was just that much better than every other weapon in the early Halos. Now that other weapons can compete with it, it’s not necessary to be standard. The respawn times on the ranged weapons in the Beta are very short so there is never a shortage of BR on any map. If the other team gets you pinned down with BRs in an AR start map, find another route out since they can’t cover all exits with full strength. How about you try to sneak away? I’ve done that plenty of times. Unfortunately 343i buffed the BR’s rate of fire, perhap to try to compete with close range weapons, but what that does is allow you to get 4-shotted across the map in the huge maps devoid of cover. This combined with bad spawns make BR starts nearly unplayable. Plenty of times I’ve spawned in nearly the same spot that I died with the whole enemy team still there and I get 4-shotted from 4 BR’s at once and die instantly. The long sight lines don’t help either since I’ve also spawned on the “ramparts” of Regret with an enemy at the other rampart already looking at me and shooting me before I know what’s going on. The BR needs a slower rate of fire and a bigger spread so it is a true medium range weapon. The spread right now is tight enough to easily 4-shot someone from across the map on Eden and forgiving enough to descope anyone trying to shoot back as long as you are generally looking at them. The whole original Midship could fit inside the courtyard of Eden alone. The BR’s range should be hardly any more than that. The DMR and Light Rifle should be the long range kings, not the BR.
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> BR starts needed to be standard because the BR was just that much better than every other weapon in the early Halos. Now that other weapons can compete with it, it’s not necessary to be standard. The respawn times on the ranged weapons in the Beta are very short so there is never a shortage of BR on any map. If the other team gets you pinned down with BRs in an AR start map, find another route out since they can’t cover all exits with full strength. How about you try to sneak away? I’ve done that plenty of times. Unfortunately 343i buffed the BR’s rate of fire, perhap to try to compete with close range weapons, but what that does is allow you to get 4-shotted across the map in the huge maps devoid of cover. This combined with bad spawns make BR starts nearly unplayable. Plenty of times I’ve spawned in nearly the same spot that I died with the whole enemy team still there and I get 4-shotted from 4 BR’s at once and die instantly. The long sight lines don’t help either since I’ve also spawned on the “ramparts” of Regret with an enemy at the other rampart already looking at me and shooting me before I know what’s going on. The BR needs a slower rate of fire and a bigger spread so it is a true medium range weapon. The spread right now is tight enough to easily 4-shot someone from across the map on Eden and forgiving enough to descope anyone trying to shoot back as long as you are generally looking at them. The whole original Midship could fit inside the courtyard of Eden alone. The BR’s range should be hardly any more than that. The DMR and Light Rifle should be the long range kings, not the BR.
if the maps are a problem than fix the maps(add more cover make the spawns better). i dont do AR starts or SMG starts. i only vote BR in MCC
BR starts are not the problem.