The Needle Rifle would be perfect for Halo 5! Think about it, BR and DMR so Carbine and Needle Rifle!
A remastered Needle Rifle would have the potential to look pretty rad! 
How about we just settle for the N’ifle? The Halo sandbox has been weighed down with far to many functional clones and trimming it a bit will leave us with a better experience.
The N’ifle is better choice as a its 2.5x scope, auto fire, and supercombine make it a more unique option than the Carbine. The “Why not both?” type of answers are not really practical. If we include absolutely everyone’s favorites than we will end up a bloated sandbox where few of the weapons get the design/balancing attention they need.
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> How about we just settle for the N’ifle? The Halo sandbox has been weighed down with far to many functional clones and trimming it a bit will leave us with a better experience.
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> The N’ifle is better choice as a its 2.5x scope, auto fire, and supercombine make it a more unique option than the Carbine. The “Why not both?” type of answers are not really practical. If we include absolutely everyone’s favorites than we will end up a bloated sandbox where few of the weapons get the design/balancing attention they need.
Exactly this. 343 should focus on balancing a few weapons with deliberately made roles. Too many weapons, too much overlap, and the sandbox just becomes too chaotic.
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> Exactly this. 343 should focus on balancing a few weapons with deliberately made roles. Too many weapons, too much overlap, and the sandbox just becomes too chaotic.
Yeah I’d even go so far as to say that 343 should pick either the DMR or BR and delete the other. I don’t need 12 different guns that do similar things. I just need one for close range, one for medium range, a sniper, a rocket, etc. That’s about it.
As much as I love the carbine, I need to agree with everybody here. Can the carbine, keep the needle rifle.
Also, I really hate the DMR and think they should get rid of it, but that might just be because Halo 4 left a bad taste of it in my mouth. They need to make everything shorter-ranged again.
As much as I like the needle rifle, it is essentially the same thing as the covenant carbine. The DMR and BR are quite different in terms of kill times and effective range, and also fire rate
If only one can remain, -Yoink- the needle rifle, the carbine is so much cooler.
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> As much as I like the needle rifle, it is essentially the same thing as the covenant carbine. The DMR and BR are quite different in terms of kill times and effective range, and also fire rate
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> If only one can remain, -Yoink- the needle rifle, the carbine is so much cooler.
The point is that the Needle Rifle is more unique, though.
They could bring the Needle rifle back as a counterpart to the AR. Take away the scope and auto-tracking needles, make it full auto rapid fire, and make it supercombine twice to kill somebody, once to take down the shields, once in the body. Basically make it an entirely different weapon. Chain Needler?
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> They could bring the Needle rifle back as a counterpart to the AR. Take away the scope and auto-tracking needles, make it full auto rapid fire, and make it supercombine twice to kill somebody, once to take down the shields, once in the body. Basically make it an entirely different weapon. Chain Needler?
So, make it a Needler without the one thing that really makes it different from other automatics in the sandbox?
Also, the Needle Rifle doesn’t have auto-tracking needles in Halo: Reach.
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> Yeah I’d even go so far as to say that 343 should pick either the DMR or BR and delete the other. I don’t need 12 different guns that do similar things. I just need one for close range, one for medium range, a sniper, a rocket, etc. That’s about it.
I’m in favor of ditching the DMR for the Needle Rifle (or make the DMR function more like the N’ifle) and either removing or tweaking the Carbine (adjusting range and the like). I like its semi-auto fire but if it serves the same role as the BR, why have both and have potential balancing problems? For the sake of personal preference? (Look at how well catering to personal preference worked in H4 with customized loadouts)
I don’t see a problem in having many guns that accomplish the same task/fulfill the same role, but I do see a problem with having many guns that do so without requiring different tactics.
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Unique doesn’t equal better concept, design or general more bad -Yoink-. I like the carbine more, I’m happy that they put in the carbine instead of the needle rifle in halo 4. That’s my opinion, you’re free to have your own.
I would welcome NR with open arms. Only automatic-precission rifle in the series cannot extinct after just 1 game.
My only question is why was the DMR brought back, but not the needle rifle? They’re all unique in that there’s a preference to them, but as we all learned they don’t mesh well with custom loadouts since loadouts, if you ask me, don’t mesh well with Halo.
Having those options available as map pick ups allows us all to have these weapons without having to call one OP. If it came down to it though, I would keep the carbine. It’s been around longer and I think it is more versatile and rewarding to master over the needle rifle. I just sincerely hope they actually make the DMR more difficult to handle in this game since the bloom was pitiful in Halo 4. You shouldn’t be able to just spam marksman rifles for the same reason you can’t accurately spam the sniper, but it shouldn’t be as severe because you aren’t using a strictly long range weapon.
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> > They could bring the Needle rifle back as a counterpart to the AR. Take away the scope and auto-tracking needles, make it full auto rapid fire, and make it supercombine twice to kill somebody, once to take down the shields, once in the body. Basically make it an entirely different weapon. Chain Needler?
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I didn’t want there to be confusion so I said take away he auto-tracking. I know it doesn’t have it in Reach.
I do have an idea for a needle-shotgun though. All the needles stick out the front of the barrel like a piked blunderbuss, and when you fire, for the first 3 meters all the needles are clumped together and anybody hit with it is auto-supercombined, but you have to be accurate or you’ll miss. After 3 meters, the needles burst apart into a cloud and auto-track the nearest enemy.
Actually the BR and DMR have more in common with each other than the CC and the NR have with each other. Just my opinion really but if we have the Carbine why do we need the NR?
I wouldn’t want it back if it meant replacing the Carbine. Not only do I think the Carbine is a better covie precision rifle, but it also has seniority over every other precision rifle in Halo (even the BR, because the CC was in ODST). You’re also going to see a lot of backlash from CC fans to the same extent we saw from BR fans when the DMR replaced the BR in Reach.
Personally, I would want to do away with all long-range utility rifles. If players really want a long range weapon, they should pick up a sniper rifle. An entire team should not have access to long range weapons, unless it’s gametype specific, like team snipers.
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Well, considering that they’re basically the same thing, except, once again, that the Needle Rifle is more unique, it would probably be better to go with it if they only chose one. The thing is, I’m torn, because I really, really want them to put both in, but I also want a less unnecessarily-inflated weapon sandbox at the same time, and I don’t think they can do that without making some tough decisions.
Yes please! The needle rife was very unique in my opinion.