Bots Have Impossible Accuracy

Games Halo Infinite
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Bots cheat with their accuracy. A player with perfect aim is still subject to bloom and recoil, and will have their shots bounce or miss targets. Meanwhile, bots are full autoing players across the map with perfect accuracy using sidekicks, regardless of player maneuverability (one time I was falling at a pretty significant speed and the bot got me from full shields to dead before I could even hit the ground.) You essentially just have to hope that the bot doesn’t have a sidekick out at the moment or you just lose because they never miss. I’ve also been squadfired by sidekicks through walls on more than one occasion - this may be due to either lag or a low tickrate.

What makes this even more stark is how easy they are to outplay. One moment, you’re double, triple killing them with melees, then the next some bot across the map with a sidekick just BLAPBLAPBLAPBLAPs and you’re dead before you even realize where you’re being shot from (the radar is also so uselessly short that it may as well not exist.) Bot movement is also just… weird. Their strafes, crouches, and jumps make no sense and don’t seem to have any rhyme or reason. It seems to be just to throw off your aim regardless of how their own positioning suffers.

From the preview video, it seemed like bots were supposed to have some extra thought put into their mechanics, but so far they seem like the standard cheaty, unfair advantage gimmicks most games use to make bots pose any threat at all. Could bots at least suffer the same bloom penalties that players do? I can’t seem to hit anything after just a couple rapid shots, much less the cross-map full-auto they pull off.

As for a solution to their movement, simply adding more weight and momentum to player movement, similar to the older Halos, would do a world of wonder. Movement feels too snappy right now.

Edit: Okay, Spartan bots are actually EASIER than ODST bots. Spartan bots move like people and make logical plays, and the amount of times they perfect sidekick headshot or stand still and die seems to be reduced. They don’t wiggle around like morons and they’re just good gunfights. Great job on the Spartan-level bots, they’re not complete BS!

Also, as an aside, make the Gravity Hammer just a WEE bit faster. Thing feels so clunky to use, I can only see it ever being useful against bots who don’t understand that you can time the swing for when they come around the corner.

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Yeah i have also noticed they can throw gernades from ridiculous range with pin-point accuracy not to mention ive noticed gernade hit reg is horrible

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In my experience it hasn’t been as bad as that, but it definitely seems like the bots are a bit disappointing and they do sometimes just stand still 1 moment and die, then laser beam you with super accuracy the next.

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Sometimes they’re Halo 2 Jackel Snipers, but at other times, they just stand around like a bunch of Grunts.

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Sure you aren’t getting shot by multiple bots in this scenario? I’ve found that the bots accuracy is fairly poor. If you check after the game, the ODST bots have an average of around 30-45% and it sure feels that way when I’m playing them.

If you stand out in the open there is a good chance you will be lasered. They’re gold players after all.

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I’ve definitely had them miss a lot of shots while firing at me; haven’t seen them work the way described in the OP, even if they are decent shots.
I’ve noticed that they tend to predict how I’ll react to a grenade throw pretty well; I keep walking on top of the things.
But outshooting them isn’t terribly difficult even at the ODST level; contrary to the OPs experience, which sounds quite unintended.

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There grenades are pretty on target, but there aim doesnt insta-lock for me…
I will say, somtimes they just sit still and wait to die.

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> I’ve definitely had them miss a lot of shots while firing at me; haven’t seen them work the way described in the OP, even if they are decent shots.
> I’ve noticed that they tend to predict how I’ll react to a grenade throw pretty well; I keep walking on top of the things.
> But outshooting them isn’t terribly difficult even at the ODST level; contrary to the OPs experience, which sounds quite unintended.

It’s a mixed bag with them. Sometimes they just fart around and die, other times they laser beam sidekick headshots through walls. I’m really not sure why, they’re not difficult bots by any stretch of the imagination, they just have incredibly inconsistent moment-to-moment behaviors.

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> Sure you aren’t getting shot by multiple bots in this scenario? I’ve found that the bots accuracy is fairly poor. If you check after the game, the ODST bots have an average of around 30-45% and it sure feels that way when I’m playing them.
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> If you stand out in the open there is a good chance you will be lasered. They’re gold players after all.

Oh trust me, I’m strafing and ducking behind cover and returning fire with the best of them. 16+ kills, less than 5 deaths per game is my usual performance versus these guys, I think it’s a serious overstatement calling them gold players. I’ve reviewed footage, they randomly just… don’t miss in 1v1 scenarios.

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I’m actually thinking the ODST bots are pretty okay really. They are mant to be hard and Spartans are suppose to be even harder. I have learned that they are manageable with teamwork between teammates and call outs making them a great warm up for any kind of ranked match in the future and as long as you stay out of the open and stick to your teammates you can win alot of the matches. At the same time they can be a bit to much with their aim from longer ranged and that is something that would be fit for a Spartan bot but maybe decreased a bit for an ODST bot.

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> Oh trust me, I’m strafing and ducking behind cover and returning fire with the best of them. 16+ kills, less than 5 deaths per game is my usual performance versus these guys, I think it’s a serious overstatement calling them gold players. I’ve reviewed footage, they randomly just… don’t miss in 1v1 scenarios.

343 actually said it themselves, they equated the ODST bots to Gold, Marine to Silver and Spartan to Platinum.

I’d say from my own experience with the flight this seems pretty accurate. I’d say I’m a high Diamond/Onyx level player in most gametypes, especially default Slayer and if I turn my competitive boots on the bots cannot kill me, which I’d say is pretty similar to a performance Vs low gold level players.

I can’t say I’ve seen a huge difference in the Marine or ODST bots from a gunfight perspective (maybe slightly better accuracy, faster fire rate), but the ODST bots seem to have better movement around the map.

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ODST bots still seem to be an below average player. That stems from the fact that most matches you play they get stomped, it really doesnt matter that sometimes they kill you with some perfect Sidekick shots or grenade placements in the big picture.

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In my opinion this comes down to play style. If you run around in the open and try to Rambo your way through a match, bots will take you out eventually. If you play near your team mates putting shots on the same people they are shooting, bots will loose that fight 99% of the time. Also a great way to play is stick near cover bots don’t seem to handle you so well if you go in and out of cover. If you combine this tactic with a team mate near by then bots have a brain fart, I think this is when you see bots just stand there and die. I can only imagine a more cautious and team oriented style of play will be required to win against higher tier bots.

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And you just take 343’s word for that? You actually think you’re high diamond/onyx for being able to go flawless against these bots? They’re pitiful. They make the same intro play every match, they group way too tightly, and some weapons they simply aren’t programmed to use or play against. The only thing on their side is having random bouts of perfect accuracy - which I have footage of, and will accumulate more. If this is all it takes to be Gold, I guess I’m just going to be stuck at max rank the whole game.

No, you’re in for a rude awakening once you actually fight players. They’re nowhere near as predictable and one-note as these supposed “gold-level” bots.

I suspect Spartan bots will begin delving into Silver territory, with the caveat being that they reach this level with a different kind of skillset - namely aim and navigation, with situational awareness and player equipment recognition being next to nonexistent.

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No, I think that because I am a high diamond/onyx rated player in Halo 5 despite not playing much of the game or having any practice. I was also Onyx in Reach and a 50 in almost all Halo 3 playlists so I have a lot of experience at the game in PVP and playing at a high level.

It would be interesting to see a Gold 1 players opinion of these bots and if they feel they are equally matched.

Can we see the clips of the perfect accuracy?

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I have to agree. They have pin-point accuracy with their Sidekick pistols. They scare me :joy::joy:

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Sometimes i found bots with an incredible aim and movements and other matchs they’re the opposite

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Bots are programmed to track targets. So the fact that we’re fighting against Bots makes no sense.

I have opinions about the game and what I think should and shouldn’t be changed, but I think I’m going to hold back on providing feedback because I feel like I’m not even playing the real game.

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It’s been a mixed bag for me the first few games they seemed like storm troopers missing more then they hit. As the day progressed their accuracy increased. I thought I read somewhere or maybe watched it on YouTube, but either way they were going to slowly increase the bots difficulty as the flight went on.

After a few games I figured out the bots usual routes around the map and have been able to keep my distance and take them out with the battle rifle or commando. I average around 3 deaths a match and over 10 kills a game. If anything they need to make it so they don’t follow the same routes over and over again. All in all I’m really enjoying this flight. I’ve had minimal issues, usually related to the sever getting hammered with new players.

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I think it’s really just the sidekick that is the issue, probably the most consistent weapon right now. Not the fastest ttk, but man it will always get the job done and bots abuse that. If you pair sidekick with plasma pistol or carbine, you can literally delete people by breaking their shields and one tapping them to the head with sidekick. Also, I think you might be right and there is more of an issue with the bots here. The clip didn’t save unfortunately, but one time I got lasered through a wall. The bot was nowhere near me, but it said they killed me.

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Each bot is set to a different skill level, first day was easy now they are a little harder, the are a little more challenging compared to the first day but i think they are good because the first day was far to easy, i want them to be a little harder then they are now looking forwards to the spartan bots because they are challenging enough now to score a few points but ive not lost a match yet and the bots never seem break 10-15 on the scores any games ive joined. If anything the bots are not an issue they just…play like bots lol.

If anything this is awesome, i would prefer destroying other plays but the bots are great for practice with weapons and quick reactions. This will help improve skill of players.
P.S a little clip i got on the bots, no exterm medal anymore?
Halo Infinite after you trained for it - YouTube