Bornstellar-Didact?

For those who don’t know, in Cryptum and Primordium, the Didact was essentially “split” into two people, the Bornstellar-Didact (A young Forerunner who inherited his thoughts and memories and essentially became the Didact after the orignal Didact was presumed dead) and the Ur-Didact, the Didact that gave Bornstellar his memories and was left to die in a Flood infested system by the Master Builder.

I think it’s fair to assume that the Didact in Halo 4 was the Ur-Didact, which is made clear from the Terminals. So, my question is, where is Bornstellar? Is he dead? If he isn’t, will he play a part in Halo 5 or 6 or both? And if he does, will he be friendly towards the Humans and try to help them, or will he follow in the footsteps of the Ur-Didact?

Discuss.

Interesting, but If confronted how would the Bornstellar react to John? Would he have a hatred for humans aswell?

Forgot that both could be alive…

Halo 5 will be quite interesting, hopefully Humanity can have its own Didact!

Bornstellar was friendly towards Chakas and Riser, and in the Halo 3 terminals he didn’t seem to have any kind of grudge against Humans.

Ooh, I just thought of something. Two things, actually.

  1. What if the Chief received Bornstellar’s geas, just like Bornstellar received his from the Ur-Didact (we’ll just call him the Didact)? Now that the Librarian has unlocked it, he may begin to remember all of the things Bornstellar did.

  2. Epic battle: Bornstellar vs. Didact! 'Nuff said.

Perhaps Master Chief has the geas of the new Didact or Chakas.

Edit: oops OP you beat me to it

Imagine, John-Didact?

There are some theories out there that can support this…

I agree with you in thinking that the Didact in Halo 4 is the Ur-Didact and we will see how he escaped the Flood-infested system in Silentium, as well as his work with the Composer to create Prometheans from ancient humans, as seen in the Halo 4 terminals.

As for Bornstellar-Didact, I believe he is dead. If you recall the Halo 3 terminals, he was on his way to activate the Halos, “Mendicant Bias is trying to prevent us from firing the Array. He speeds back to the Ark, but he won’t succeed. Offensive Bias will stop him, and I will burn this stinking menace in your name. And then? I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who come after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid.” The big question is, where did Bornstellar-Didact activate the rings from? Was it a place shielded from the rings? Like a shield world? My guess is we’ll find out in Silentium. Personally, I think he’s dead seeing as how he says, “I will begin our Great Journey without you.” Which means to me he activated the rings and they destroyed him, along with all other life, except the Ur-Didact, in the galaxy.

The Librarian mentioned that John’s conception was planned and pre-planned from over 100,000 years ago; maybe John being the Didact was the result of this?

So If Chief turns into said 'John-Didact the 3rd" would that give him the powers of just the memories/knowledge?

> I agree with you in thinking that the Didact in Halo 4 is the Ur-Didact and we will see how he escaped the Flood-infested system in Silentium, as well as his work with the Composer to create Prometheans from ancient humans, as seen in the Halo 4 terminals.
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> As for Bornstellar-Didact, I believe he is dead. If you recall the Halo 3 terminals, he was on his way to activate the Halos, “Mendicant Bias is trying to prevent us from firing the Array. He speeds back to the Ark, but he won’t succeed. Offensive Bias will stop him, and I will burn this stinking menace in your name. And then? I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who come after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid.” The big question is, where did Bornstellar-Didact activate the rings from? Was it a place shielded from the rings? Like a shield world? My guess is we’ll find out in Silentium. Personally, I think he’s dead seeing as how he says, “I will begin our Great Journey without you.” Which means to me he activated the rings and they destroyed him, along with all other life, except the Ur-Didact, in the galaxy.

I presume that Bornestellar activated the rings from the Ark, which is safe from Halo fire, so he could well be alive. Maybe the “Great Journey” doesn’t refer to death, but some grand plan the Forerunners have?

> So If Chief turns into said 'John-Didact the 3rd" would that give him the powers of just the memories/knowledge?

Perhaps both? Chief already is a fantastic fighter and great tactician. Maybe the memories and knowledge are all that he needs to turn into, as you’ve said, “John-Didact the Third.”

But that raises another interesting question. Can the geas of a Forerunner be given to a Human? I think it’s possible, but we just don’t know enough about geas’ to know for sure.

> Forgot that both could be alive…
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> Halo 5 will be quite interesting, hopefully Humanity can have its own Didact!

Which would probably be the Chief.

This is very interesting indeed. But now this brings up another question:

Is the Master Builder seen in Terminal 2 Faber?

> This is very interesting indeed. But now this brings up another question:
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> Is the Master Builder seen in Terminal 2 Faber?

As far as I know, the Master Builder was never split into two like the Didact was.

I’ve heard from a friend that the beings in the universe are classified by fingers. Or…something like that. The Didact has 6 if I’m not mistaken.

At the end of Halo 4 you stuck a grenade to the Didact…etc. But did he actually die?

> I’ve heard from a friend that the beings in the universe are classified by fingers. Or…something like that. The Didact has 6 if I’m not mistaken.
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> At the end of Halo 4 you stuck a grenade to the Didact…etc. But did he actually die?

He MAY have been Composed, but I don’t think he’s dead. You hear his voice in the Epilogue; from what I gather, he’s being chewed out by some underground council of Forerunners.

> > I’ve heard from a friend that the beings in the universe are classified by fingers. Or…something like that. The Didact has 6 if I’m not mistaken.
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> > At the end of Halo 4 you stuck a grenade to the Didact…etc. But did he actually die?
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> He MAY have been Composed, but I don’t think he’s dead. You hear his voice in the Epilogue; from what I gather, he’s being chewed out by some underground council of Forerunners.

Just to clarify:
They mention the Didact is Composer proof.

He falls into a slipspace portal.

The epilogue is from the Forerunner Flood War at the Didact’s trial before being sent to Requiem.

I did not hear this said Council. I’ve played Halo since I was 5 and was really into it but I haven’t read the books. But I would kind of hate for all of the games to be based exactly on the books.

I feel like if what you said is the case then are the Council members enemies as well? OR maybe the Didact will become friendly towards John.

> I feel like if what you said is the case then are the Council members enemies as well? OR maybe the Didact will become friendly towards John.

Well, that is the main reason why the Librarian locked the Didact in that Cryptum in the first place. She wanted him to realize his mistakes and to make up for them by helping humanity.

> I did not hear this said Council. I’ve played Halo since I was 5 and was really into it but I haven’t read the books. But I would kind of hate for all of the games to be based exactly on the books.
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> I feel like if what you said is the case then are the Council members enemies as well? OR maybe the Didact will become friendly towards John.

The Ecumene Council was the head of the Forerunner government. It was primarily headed by the Didact (military), Librarian (Lifeworkers, topics regarding the reseeding of life) and the Master Builder (in charge of building installations,etc.). The rest of the council is most likely dead after the firing of the Halo array.