So, most of us agree that the Boltshot is already really annoying. But, I have just made one more observation that proves the Boltshot is in need of a nerf: its max insta-kill range is the same as the automatic weapons’ effective range AND its charge up and fire time is roughly twice as fast as the automatics’ kill time.
What does this mean? It means I can start pelting you with my AR and you could whip out a Boltshot, have a sandwhich, and take me out before your shields are even gone.
First, why have an automatic when you could have a precision weapon that’s effective at all ranges? Second, why waste a perk slot for Firepower when you have a better close-range weapon as a sidearm already? Even though automatics have gotten a slight buff since Reach, they are heavily negated by the fact that everyone can spawn with better weapons for close, mid, and long range.
The Boltshot is OP, but your accusations are false. Learn to burst fire. I kill people with the AR at least 3 times the range of the boltshot, if not more.
> The Boltshot is OP, but your accusations are false. Learn to burst fire. I kill people with the AR at least 3 times the range of the boltshot, if not more.
Why burst fire when you could pull out a Magnum? Burst firing automatics is not effective in Halo 4. In fact, it never was.
> Wow, Kerminator you are bad and should feel bad. Learn to take corners wide, time jumps and move erratically.
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> AR>Boltshot all day, everyday. Or maybe i’m just that good
The only time I win against a Boltshot up close is when they miss, which is pretty hard to do. But seriously, how am I supposed to beat a weapon that has a faster kill time and the same range? I even initiate combat first and still die. And this is from someone with the AR as their ToD.
> > Wow, Kerminator you are bad and should feel bad. Learn to take corners wide, time jumps and move erratically.
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> > AR>Boltshot all day, everyday. Or maybe i’m just that good
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> The only time I win against a Boltshot up close is when they miss, which is pretty hard to do. But seriously, how am I supposed to beat a weapon that has a faster kill time and the same range? I even initiate combat first and still die. And this is from someone with the AR as their ToD.
No seriously, where are you getting this “same range” nonsense from?
The boltshot has a range of 5 feet, the assault rifle is accurate even at an extended range.
It’s pretty simple really. Engage at mid range and don’t run at them like a mindless moron. Flush them out with a grenade and have a team mate pick up the kill if need be. (assuming your capable of such co-ordination). Combined with the strafing techniques i mentioned earlier you should have little issues winning. It’s a simple matter of player skill really.
> > Wow, Kerminator you are bad and should feel bad. Learn to take corners wide, time jumps and move erratically.
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> > AR>Boltshot all day, everyday. Or maybe i’m just that good
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> The only time I win against a Boltshot up close is when they miss, which is pretty hard to do. But seriously, how am I supposed to beat a weapon that has a faster kill time and the same range? I even initiate combat first and still die. And this is from someone with the AR as their ToD.
HAve you used the boltshot? Its a great, powerful weapon with some significant range, but it is by no means hard to doge the shot. The biggest draw back is the lack of spread and the difficulty in aiming with it. If you move and don’t (in a straight line) charge a BSer, it is fairly certain you will dodge it, even if you are hit it wont be fatal and you should easily win.
If someone take me off guard with the BS they can get an easy kill, but that can be said just as easily with melee. The BS is strong, and a great weapon, but I would rather go up against someone with a BS than an AR
> > > Wow, Kerminator you are bad and should feel bad. Learn to take corners wide, time jumps and move erratically.
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> > > AR>Boltshot all day, everyday. Or maybe i’m just that good
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> > The only time I win against a Boltshot up close is when they miss, which is pretty hard to do. But seriously, how am I supposed to beat a weapon that has a faster kill time and the same range? I even initiate combat first and still die. And this is from someone with the AR as their ToD.
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> No seriously, where are you getting this “same range” nonsense from?
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> The boltshot has a range of 5 feet, the assault rifle is accurate even at an extended range.
You know nothing. The Boltshot has further range than both the Shotgun and Scattershot and its max range is just under the AR’s max range.
> > > > Wow, Kerminator you are bad and should feel bad. Learn to take corners wide, time jumps and move erratically.
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> > > > AR>Boltshot all day, everyday. Or maybe i’m just that good
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> > > The only time I win against a Boltshot up close is when they miss, which is pretty hard to do. But seriously, how am I supposed to beat a weapon that has a faster kill time and the same range? I even initiate combat first and still die. And this is from someone with the AR as their ToD.
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> > No seriously, where are you getting this “same range” nonsense from?
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> > The boltshot has a range of 5 feet, the assault rifle is accurate even at an extended range.
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> You know nothing. The Boltshot has further range than both the Shotgun and Scattershot and its max range is just under the AR’s max range.
Except the blotshot requires precise aim at anything less than front and centre making it easy to dodge, on top of that it’s a very predictable weapon. Learn to play around it. If i can then why can’t you?
> > > > Wow, Kerminator you are bad and should feel bad. Learn to take corners wide, time jumps and move erratically.
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> > > > AR>Boltshot all day, everyday. Or maybe i’m just that good
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> > > The only time I win against a Boltshot up close is when they miss, which is pretty hard to do. But seriously, how am I supposed to beat a weapon that has a faster kill time and the same range? I even initiate combat first and still die. And this is from someone with the AR as their ToD.
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> > No seriously, where are you getting this “same range” nonsense from?
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> > The boltshot has a range of 5 feet, the assault rifle is accurate even at an extended range.
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> You know nothing. The Boltshot has further range than both the Shotgun and Scattershot and its max range is just under the AR’s max range.
Pretty sure someone tested this and proved the whole shotgun argument wrong.
The shotgun’s one-hit kill range is way less than the range the AR can shoot effectively at.
You’re really just bad at gauging weapon ranges and moving in and out of range.
> OP you know nothing about the AR in this game if you think burst fire isn’t effective. Especially when paired with Pulse grenades.
Burst firing is only effective on players that are essentially AFK or aren’t looking at you. If you want to burst fire against a BR or DMR you’re dead. There’s no point.
I feel like your missing the fact that the assault weapons are just bad in general. Either that or you have some huge problem with the boltshot so your comparing the boltshot to assault weapons because you know the suckiness of the assault weapons make the boltshot seem overpowered the fact of the matter is if you compare any non assault loadout weapon to the assault weapons(excluding plasma pistol for obvious reasons) you will see that the assault weapons are the weaker choice.
The say don’t hate the player hate the game but your taking it a little to far, if you haven’t yet gotten to the point where you can effectively use precision weapons so you use underpowered assault weapons don’t ask for a nerf of other weapons until you can out gun those weapons with an assault rifle.
Dont blame the game blame the player. Im not calling you bad but if you blame your deaths on the game then your less likely to learn to counter the weapons that present a problem for you. The boltshots weakness is its charge time and the cooldown time after it fires find a way to give yourself time to shoot that player and then get out of range or sight before they can shoot and you will be able to kill boltshot users very easily.
> > OP you know nothing about the AR in this game if you think burst fire isn’t effective. Especially when paired with Pulse grenades.
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> Burst firing is only effective on players that are essentially AFK or aren’t looking at you. If you want to burst fire against a BR or DMR you’re dead. There’s no point.
if you want to use an assault weapon against a BR or DMR you’re dead. There’s no point. The assault weapons have gotten stronger than they have ever been but they are never going to make them a better choice than the BR or DMR because then what would the point in using a gun that takes more skill and is harder to aim be if a much easier to aim weapon is more effective…
> > > OP you know nothing about the AR in this game if you think burst fire isn’t effective. Especially when paired with Pulse grenades.
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> > Burst firing is only effective on players that are essentially AFK or aren’t looking at you. If you want to burst fire against a BR or DMR you’re dead. There’s no point.
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> if you want to use an assault weapon against a BR or DMR you’re dead. There’s no point. The assault weapons have gotten stronger than they have ever been but they are never going to make them a better choice than the BR or DMR because then what would the point in using a gun that takes more skill and is harder to aim be if a much easier to aim weapon is more effective…
They should never make any loadout weapon an overall better choice. They should make automatic weapons atleast a decent choice by making them have a longer effective range, being able to atleast compete at mid-close range. And precision weapons are not hard to aim at all, not anymore at least.
If you start a thread trying to prove something is OP or needs nerfed, please back it up with indisputable facts. Make a video, compile some data, something. We already have too many boltshot specific threads you can state your opinions in, you should use those instead.
These threads are getting sillier and more far fetched each time. Next week we’ll be seeing threads saying “The boltshot is OP, people are sniping me on Ragnarok with it!”
