You heard it here first… or second… or third…
The fact is this weapon is does not balance the load out and should in no way be a greater threat than the Scattershot in power and distance in one shot. It’s a bailout weapon for below average players and does not promote the type of balance that has been sold to me. The COD converter!!!
This was discovered on day 1 and 343 said they don’t plan on nerfing it so gf us.
(that doesn’t mean they won’t take it out of loadouts)
Wow… I can’t say that I’m pleased to know that… There are very few things that I dislike about this game, but the boltshot as a secondary with a one shot kill is one of them!
> This was discovered on day 1 and 343 said they don’t plan on nerfing it so gf us.
> (that doesn’t mean they won’t take it out of loadouts)
Have they? I know they said they are not focusing on sandbox changes but have they said no specifically to a boltshot nerf?
I hope that is not the case. Its OHK outranges both the scatter and shotgun(and obviously sword and hammer) ,that alone makes it OP.
Basically they should switch the power of the boltshot and scatter shot then fanboys and all will rejoice
TC where have you been for the past 5 weeks?
Not true at all. The only sense that the Boltshot is EVER better then the scattershot is OHK range. And that doesn’t make it better at all. The scattershot is not a traditional shotgun and people keep trying to treat it as such. I almost have scattershot mastery. Your doing it wrong if a BS user is beating you when you have a scattershot.
> Not true at all. The only sense that the Boltshot is EVER better then the scattershot is OHK range. And that doesn’t make it better at all. The scattershot is not a traditional shotgun and people keep trying to treat it as such. I almost have scattershot mastery. Your doing it wrong if a BS user is beating you when you have a scattershot.
OK… Not better… More dangerous… I’ll change the title… Now what is your response???
NOTE: I’m not saying that I have the Scattershot and have been beaten by the Boltshot, which is possible in the current condition. If you don’t think so then you are fooling yourself or you have no idea what you are talking about. One of the two…
> > Not true at all. The only sense that the Boltshot is EVER better then the scattershot is OHK range. And that doesn’t make it better at all. The scattershot is not a traditional shotgun and people keep trying to treat it as such. I almost have scattershot mastery. Your doing it wrong if a BS user is beating you when you have a scattershot.
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> OK… Not better… More dangerous… I’ll change the title… Now what is your response???
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> NOTE: I’m not saying that I have the Scattershot and have been beaten by the Boltshot, which is possible in the current condition. If you don’t think so then you are fooling yourself or you have no idea what you are talking about. One of the two…
I’d still say your wrong. And your using the scattershot wrong.
EDIT: I’m not saying its impossible for the boltshot to beat the scattershot. Battles can go in any direction. But im saying if the Boltshot beats your scattershot you played wrong.
> The scattershot is not a traditional shotgun and people keep trying to treat it as such. I almost have scattershot mastery. Your doing it wrong if a BS user is beating you when you have a scattershot.
The Scattershot is a completely random weapon. There is absolutely no “trick” to using it. It inflicts random damage and has random spread…I’ve seen it kill in one shot from a ridiculous distance and then take 2-3 shots from half the distance on the very next encounter. It has been dubbed as the “Lottery Cannon” for a reason.
The Boltshot’s power is at least consistent. With it’s range it will almost always kill in one hit (assuming a direct hit), whereas the Scattershot’s randomness causes it to sometimes kill in one shot, other times 2 shots, and sometimes even 3 shots. Other than it’s Ammo advantage over the Boltshot, I see no real other benefits for the Scattershot…which is ridiculous because you are talking about a Power Weapon versus a Secondary Pistol.
Simply put the boltshot is over powered and should not be a secondary weapon. Its a bailout for typically less skilled users and should never be the superior to a weapon like the shotgun or scattershot under any circumstance. Anyone who says different is a biased fan boy who loves using the boltshot for a kill in a scenario where they would have otherwise been dead.
Yep, the Scattershot seems to be a hit-or-miss. I remember hitting someone at point plank with this thing, but not killing him, yet his Boltshot, could? A Secondary Shotgun beating a Primary Shotgun? What has Halo come to?
> Other than it’s Ammo advantage over the Boltshot
In terms of both mag size and reserve ammo capacity. Don’t forget ease of use, rate of fire and presence, in this case lack thereof.
But no.
Just because it’s a OSK with long range, it’s OP. Even then every other factor about the weapon is awful. Even it’s primary firing mode. Why does everyone do this? Why does nobody ever look at the whole? Why does everyone disregard, ignore and throw away all the other things that bring the Boltshot down when comparing it to other power weapons and making the claim that it is OP?
I’m fed up to the point where i’m seriously considering chucking this game because of noobs with camo and the boltshot,
no way should a 1 sk weapon be available as a loudout option, it just takes out the need for any skill at all,
please 343 fix this, as it’s rendering most games useless to even try,
boltshot + camo = noob heaven
get this sorted or i’m done with this godforsaken franchise!!!
> > Other than it’s Ammo advantage over the Boltshot
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> In terms of both mag size and reserve ammo capacity. Don’t forget ease of use, rate of fire and presence, in this case lack thereof.
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> But no.
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> Just because it’s a OSK with long range, it’s OP. Even then every other factor about the weapon is awful. Even it’s primary firing mode. Why does everyone do this? Why does nobody ever look at the whole? Why does everyone disregard, ignore and throw away all the other things that bring the Boltshot down when comparing it to other power weapons and making the claim that it is OP?
Because they’ve made up their mind.
Even though I keep posting people’s actual stats showing how few times they die to it, it’s a 1shot kill, so it HAS to be over powered. Real world evidence pointing to the contrary is overlooked and ignored.
> Its a bailout for typically less skilled users
How does it “bail them out” when I’m cross-mapping them with snipe?
Or when I’ve pinned them down behind a rock and nade them for the kill?
When I’m above them on a roof-top with a DMR?
When I’m circling them in a ghost shooting them non-stop?
Or even in close-quarters circumstances when I am BR’ing them and all I have to do is keep my distance?
> boltshot + camo = noob heaven
There really are more important issues that need fixing IMO. Yeah those guys are annoying, but there’s plenty of counters for BS Camo, the first of which is don’t go charging into rooms, hallways, close quarters where camo campers are lurking.
> Why does everyone disregard, ignore and throw away all the other things that bring the Boltshot down when comparing it to other power weapons and making the claim that it is OP?
Bro you just answered your own question and outlined the root of the problem in one line: ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A POWER WEAPON. It is a secondary pistol. This is the ENTIRE argument.
> > The scattershot is not a traditional shotgun and people keep trying to treat it as such. I almost have scattershot mastery. Your doing it wrong if a BS user is beating you when you have a scattershot.
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> The Scattershot is a completely random weapon. There is absolutely no “trick” to using it. It inflicts random damage and has random spread…I’ve seen it kill in one shot from a ridiculous distance and then take 2-3 shots from half the distance on the very next encounter. It has been dubbed as the “Lottery Cannon” for a reason.
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> The Boltshot’s power is at least consistent. With it’s range it will almost always kill in one hit (assuming a direct hit), whereas the Scattershot’s randomness causes it to sometimes kill in one shot, other times 2 shots, and sometimes even 3 shots. Other than it’s Ammo advantage over the Boltshot, I see no real other benefits for the Scattershot…which is ridiculous because you are talking about a Power Weapon versus a Secondary Pistol.
I don’t find it random at all.
the scattershot has more ammo, a higher range, higher ROF, and its projectiles bounce. And before you say that doesn’t ever help it does. I have gotten a handfull of kills bouncing shots behind someone to get them in the back or getting guys camping around corners.
The boltshots “consistentcy” relies entirely on how often you get an opponent into optimal CQC range and your accuracy. After all timing is perfect and if you miss your dead. Its OHK range is the same as a normal shotgun. The difference though i that the boltshot is punished far more if you don’t land a OSK.
The boltshot is not OP. And does not require a nerf. If someone is destroying with it its because they are playing the gun to its strengths fairly consistantly. That can be said with every weapon thats in this game.
> I’m fed up to the point where i’m seriously considering chucking this game because of noobs with camo and the boltshot,
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> no way should a 1 sk weapon be available as a loudout option, it just takes out the need for any skill at all,
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> please 343 fix this, as it’s rendering most games useless to even try,
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> boltshot + camo = noob heaven
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> get this sorted or i’m done with this godforsaken franchise!!!
You have been killed 54 times across ALL game types, out of 5237 deaths. Roughly 1% of the time, a LOADOUT weapon has killed you.
You have been killed by the pistol 55 times in Slayer alone, compared to 3 times with the Boltshot. 3. In slayer, you have been killed by the perfectly balanced pistol 18 times for each 1 time you have died to the “OP” boltshot.
A perfect example of people making up their mind without actually looking and examining.