Remove them from the game. There’s not a game I play without a -Yoinking!-’ bolt shot to my face. Might as well put the shot gun as a load out weapon. I don’t care if this has been posted before. Oh, and I’m your above “average” Halo player. But hey, if you can’t beat 'em, join 'em. That’s how good this gun is. This game is broken. Thanks, Bolty.
I hated the spammers of this weapon so much in the early days, but then, I saw it as no different then coming across someone with a shotgun…its just that kind of weapon
Is it annoying, well yes, can you play in the same way, yes…should it be removed or nerfed…no
Every match that I play is against decent kids. So of course they’re gonna use the best weapons (DMR, BS). It’s just so frustrating that you’re in a firefight, and BAM!!! You’re dead, thanks to the BS.
“Is it annoying, well yes, can you play in the same way, yes…should it be removed or nerfed…no”.
I hate to say it but this is incorrect. Weapons are perfectly welcome to be annoying, that’s fine. Being hit by a Mauler in H3 was annoying.
The Boltshot is just straight ridiculous and it should be nerfed.
If you take out the DMR’s amazing AA and remove the OSK BS, we’d have a pretty good, competitive title on our hands.
should be removed from your loadout but not the game. you shouldnt spawn with a weapon that can kill one shot.
I am half tempted to spend 2 days running around with only a magnum. Eventually people will start to complain about that too. The BS is fine as is. There are plenty of ways to counter it people just need to quit whining about being killed.
Explain. Please do.
> “Is it annoying, well yes, can you play in the same way, yes…should it be removed or nerfed…no”.
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> I hate to say it but this is incorrect. Weapons are perfectly welcome to be annoying, that’s fine. Being hit by a Mauler in H3 was annoying.
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> The Boltshot is just straight ridiculous and it should be nerfed.
Should the plasma Pistol be nerfed then? the number of people running around using it to drop your shield and one shot kill you is as boring as it was on previous halo games.
You can find fault with almost every weapon in HALO4, the storm rifle, the carbine and its damage over long range etc
Start nerfing weapons just because some find it annoying and you will have no end of nerfing
Boltshot needs to be an ordnance weapon. Plain and simple.
> Boltshot needs to be an ordnance weapon. Plain and simple.
> > “Is it annoying, well yes, can you play in the same way, yes…should it be removed or nerfed…no”.
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> > I hate to say it but this is incorrect. Weapons are perfectly welcome to be annoying, that’s fine. Being hit by a Mauler in H3 was annoying.
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> > The Boltshot is just straight ridiculous and it should be nerfed.
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> Should the plasma Pistol be nerfed then? the number of people running around using it to drop your shield and one shot kill you is as boring as it was on previous halo games.
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> You can find fault with almost every weapon in HALO4, the storm rifle, the carbine and its damage over long range etc
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> Start nerfing weapons just because some find it annoying and you will have no end of nerfing
The Plasma Pistol is fine. However, it shouldn’t be a load out weapon.
“Should the plasma Pistol be nerfed then? the number of people running around using it to drop your shield and one shot kill you is as boring as it was on previous halo games”.
That question is better directed at Big Team players, although my guess is no. However, I think they mucked up Vehicle/Player balance and I think at the moment it is necessary to start with it because there’s nothing else someone can reasonably be expected to do if caught out by a vehicle.
For general gameplay, no, it shouldn’t be nerfed.
However, and this has been explained many, many times, the Boltshot is a one-shot kill and you can start with it. That’s enough to justify nerfing it right there.
Next up, it completely shuts down the Hammer and Sword, no question whatsoever. It almost always beats the Scattershot and it is about equal with a Shotgun. Another reason it should be nerfed.
Is this enough yet?
After that you’ve got that it has a hell of a lot of range and an absolutely minimal charge time. It is very easy to land hits with. It gets two charges per clip. It has spare ammo after that. It makes the Magnum almost absolutely useless and is a better choice than the Plasma Pistol in non-vehicular maps.
Seem nerf-worthy now?
you are running out of weapons you can have in loadouts now
Should the storm rifle also get taken out of loadouts, that can be just as annoying when ambushed by someone with it?
See you can either adapt your play to deal with people always using the bolt shots Alt fire or you can keep asking for the game to be changed just to make you feel better
Play to the corners, learn who last hit you with it and where they were, adapt your playing style etc etc
> “Should the plasma Pistol be nerfed then? the number of people running around using it to drop your shield and one shot kill you is as boring as it was on previous halo games”.
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> That question is better directed at Big Team players, although my guess is no. However, I think they mucked up Vehicle/Player balance and I think at the moment it is necessary to start with it because there’s nothing else someone can reasonably be expected to do if caught out by a vehicle.
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> For general gameplay, no, it shouldn’t be nerfed.
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> However, and this has been explained many, many times, the Boltshot is a one-shot kill and you can start with it. That’s enough to justify nerfing it right there.
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> Next up, it completely shuts down the Hammer and Sword, no question whatsoever. It almost always beats the Scattershot and it is about equal with a Shotgun. Another reason it should be nerfed.
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> Is this enough yet?
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> After that you’ve got that it has a hell of a lot of range and an absolutely minimal charge time. It is very easy to land hits with. It gets two charges per clip. It has spare ammo after that. It makes the Magnum almost absolutely useless and is a better choice than the Plasma Pistol in non-vehicular maps.
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> Seem nerf-worthy now?
Nope…I hold the Bolt shot in the same way as the Plasma pistol
as for it being an effective way of dealing with Plasmas sword users…this is the one thing I enjoy about it the most…BULL TRUE
Play to the corners, learn who last hit you with it and where they were, adapt your playing style etc etc".
You don’t have to tell me how to play. I know how to do this and I do it, but it’s still a ridiculous weapon.
Given that you use it, I don’t expect you to support nerfing it, but to continue defending it is interesting, particularly since you embraced beating a Sword user with it. It’s a starting weapon. It makes no sense.
I would be happy to nerf the blast to a deshielding at most, which leaves three options: damage beforehand, damage afterwards and a melee afterwards. That’s all I’d do to nerf it, it would solve the problem with it and still leave it entirely viable, yet appropriately powerful given the loadout status and other secondary options.
> you are running out of weapons you can have in loadouts now
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> Should the storm rifle also get taken out of loadouts, that can be just as annoying when ambushed by someone with it?
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> See you can either adapt your play to deal with people always using the bolt shots Alt fire or you can keep asking for the game to be changed just to make you feel better
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> Play to the corners, learn who last hit you with it and where they were, adapt your playing style etc etc
Please stop saying adapt. People listen unless your a 50 in Halo 3 or a Pro which most were 50’s anyways, you should never ever tell someone to adapt.
First almost everyone is running around with bolt shot these days. Why? Because it’s an easy weapon to use and is a 1 shot kill for the most part. So saying remember who killed you with it is just plain stupid. The bolt shot ruins CQC and how it has played in every single Halo before. I don’t think it needs to be nerfed but it does need to be removed as a loadout.
Gull, whichever is preferable for 343 is fine by me. Nerf/Remove from loadouts? Either is good.
The Boltshot is a close-quarters weapon. Point blank only. It can’t really be used for much else. To be honest, I think it’s perfect as it is. And besides, if you don’t get the timing perfect, you’re screwed.
> Play to the corners, learn who last hit you with it and where they were, adapt your playing style etc etc".
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> You don’t have to tell me how to play. I know how to do this and I do it, but it’s still a ridiculous weapon.
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> Given that you use it, I don’t expect you to support nerfing it, but to continue defending it is interesting, particularly since you embraced beating a Sword user with it. It’s a starting weapon. It makes no sense.
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> I would be happy to nerf the blast to a deshielding at most, which leaves three options: damage beforehand, damage afterwards and a melee afterwards. That’s all I’d do to nerf it, it would solve the problem with it and still leave it entirely viable, yet appropriately powerful given the loadout status and other secondary options.
I use it because its in my loadout, others use it, if I am hit by someone camping with it I will switch to it and get some payback, its in my loadout because of how my loadouts are set out, its a fall back weapon, primary weapon is BR or DMR
To those saying to stop saying adapt, thats the fundimental point of online play, you adapt to who you are playing with and how they play, the Bolt Shot is a counter weapon, and after firing leaves you open to anyone else around you
Adapt, its a life lesson peeps