Wouldn’t a shielded Mantis/Banshee lack the friction needed to board it?
In Halo: The Fall of Reach, Master Chief slips on his new Mark V energy shields by just moving around…
MJOLNIR armor systems had to be specifically designed to allow for proper feet/hand use while shields were active.
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> Wouldn’t a shielded Mantis/Banshee lack the friction needed to board it?
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> In Halo: The Fall of Reach, Master Chief slips on his new Mark V energy shields by just moving around…
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> MJOLNIR armor systems had to be specifically designed to allow for proper feet/hand use while shields were active.
Does it matter? This is a video game.
There’s this thing called game-balance. Basically what it does is says “oh… it does this in the books huh? well we’re gonna do it completely different.”
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> There’s this thing called game-balance. Basically what it does is says “oh… it does this in the books huh? well we’re gonna do it completely different.”
This.
Also by your logic, MC shouldn’t die while we control him in the campaign etc etc.
I agree. Also, how can you plant a grenade in a fully shielded Mantis?? Like how does the grenade get past the shield?
We know all of the reasons as to why it’s a video game, folks. He’s asking for the lore explanation. Shields have been misused or shown incorrectly … well … where were they during the Chief and Locke fight? And remember that Escalation comic where Thorne had a Needle stuck in him like whatsherface did in Forward Unto Dawn? Why didn’t it explode? In either case?
Usually Grim comes along and sets us straight, but he has to be summoned and I don’t know how.
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> I agree. Also, how can you plant a grenade in a fully shielded Mantis?? Like how does the grenade get past the shield?
by that way of thinking a grenade cant go through a shield but the fist thats jamming it past the shield can. thats makes way less sense. and sheilds would be ineffective against two spartans punching the -Yoink- out of eachother
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> We know all of the reasons as to why it’s a video game, folks. He’s asking for the lore explanation. Shields have been misused or shown incorrectly … well … where were they during the Chief and Locke fight? And remember that Escalation comic where Thorne had a Needle stuck in him like whatsherface did in Forward Unto Dawn? Why didn’t it explode? In either case?
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The unexploded needle was explained as a chemical inconsistency in the blamite (it IS a natrual mineral after all, and no mineral is 100% pure).
As for a lore explanation for the Banshee shield…perhaps its like the Onyx sentienl ones and only works on high-velocity impacts like bullets and plasma and whatnot. Not, say, a Spartan prying the whole thing open.
I think the impact of the cockpit being forced open breaks it too, cause whenever I hijack one, the shields need to recharge.
If you had to destroy the shield first that would make more sense(and make Mantiss a little less crap)
If the book goes against something in the game, the book is wrong.
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> I agree. Also, how can you plant a grenade in a fully shielded Mantis?? Like how does the grenade get past the shield?
Well a slow moving object should be able to get past the shields like in the book Halo: Ghost of Onyx when they used rocks against sentinels
Gameplay purposes, but it would make more sense if you could only board when shields are down. In fact, that would make the mantis a decent vehicle.
Because gameplay. How did Kat get a needler through her shields?
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> Because gameplay. How did Kat get a needler through her shields?
Actually the plasma radiation shut down all their shields so nothing was there to stop the needle.
What you are arguing makes sense but 343i can’t base every single game feature off of the lore. The game wouldn’t be fun and would be a lot different. There are many things I’m sure that would be different if 343i strictly followed the lore as guidelines.
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> Because gameplay. How did Kat get a needler through her shields?
Here shields were down. How was Master Chief not killed by the firing of Installation 04B if he didn’t make it though the portal?
Wouldn’t a shielded Spartan by that logic be unable to scratch his or her own butt? You know, because it lacks the friction.
Technically the games are the true standard for the lore and cannon of the games. Bungie said this a long time ago about the halo universe.
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> > I agree. Also, how can you plant a grenade in a fully shielded Mantis?? Like how does the grenade get past the shield?
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The Onyx Sentinels actually didn’t always have their shields activated and turned them on only when they detected sudden, quick movement such as bullets, which is why the Spartans were able to hit the Sentinels with slower moving rocks that they threw.
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> There’s this thing called game-balance. Basically what it does is says “oh… it does this in the books huh? well we’re gonna do it completely different.”
I think you are missing my point.
Forcing players to pop shields on shielded vehicles could add another level of game balance to these vehicles. And guess what? It makes sense from a lore perspective.
The current game play of Mantis requires that you step out, shoot, and then step back into cover to wait for shields to recharge. If you don’t, you will get wrecked. Sometimes it makes more sense to bring up the rear with a Mantis since they cant take concentrated fire on them. Shields are a huge part of Manis’s game play (and Banshees now too, for that matter).
It’s not uncommon to have an enemy grab a stealth REQ and walk up to you when your shields are full and plant a grenade on you. Great. I understand all vehicles are that way – But they don’t have to be! It gives players additional options, and makes people play little differently when different REQs are on the field.
Forcing players to at least make sure a Mantis shields are down before attempting to board would be balanced. Furthermore, there would be a lore reason for it. It’s WIN-WIN.
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> Technically the games are the true standard for the lore and cannon of the games. Bungie said this a long time ago about the halo universe.
Under Bungie that was true. But I’m pretty sure 343i states somewhere that Games and Books (and other media) were equally cannon, unless otherwise specified. But I would need to find the quote