A lot of these same arguments get made about Battle Royale games. People hate having to go grab weapons, they hate being poorly matched up because they either grabbed the wrong one, one they aren’t good with, or the other player has a better gun for the fight. This is all part of Arena Shooters except in arena shooter you can learn the spawns and try to control them, that’s where most of the skill in an Arena Shooter should come from, not from a single OP gun that everyone spawns with.
And this right here is why I don’t consider this to be arena. Arena is supposed to be about skill. Nothing about making it unbalanced will show skill
That is assuming one person has a map weapon and is using it properly and the other does have a map weapon. Again you don’t like Arena Shooters if this bothers you
Lmao love all the replies to this of “bloom isn’t realistic” uh it is actually, guns don’t shoot in a laser beam no matter how good the shooter is.
Yes, that’s why I acknowledged it. The game has good map weapons, so even if the pistol didn’t have bloom (pure RNG mechanic) people would still use them and it wouldn’t be a “one gun game” like you think it would.
Unless your talking about bullet drop at a distance then bullets go straight. No matter how bad the shooter is. Bullets go straight
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No, they arch, and the barrel going slightly awry can make the bullet go off a bit too, guns aren’t lasers.
Yeah that arch is called bullet drop. Something that only happens at a distance. Not something that happens at the barrel of the gun
The BR literally requires less skill to use than any other gun sans the rocket launcher and sword in this entire game. You literally just click on heads and win every single fight. You don’t have to worry about recoil, you don’t have to worry about bloom, you don’t even have to worry about travel time. Just point and click and collect kills. You’re actually trash if you’re losing to AR with BR at any range unless the AR gets the jump.
Guns also don’t spray randomly.
And give the controller users ANOTHER leg up at mid to long range?? Nah G, that ain’t it. Bloom is one of the only things that makes Halo on keyboard and mouse tolerable.
Recoil would fix the kb&m vs controller issue
Bloom was something that should’ve been left behind in Halo Reach.
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The only “pro” skill-gap solution to all of this is to remove bloom and transition to an entirely projectile based system. No more projectile speeds that make weapons effectively hitscan.
No bloom
Predictable recoil
Minimal to negligible spread on precision weapons
Reduced aim assist (remove variable aim assist at that) and magnetism
Projectile ballistics to facilitate leading at range
Sandbox fixed if coupled with weapon balance tweaks.
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Hah yep and the AR is already annoying and random because of the poor desync and hit detection in this game. Always find myself trying to burst the AR to work around such horrible gameplay. I don’t even want to go into a conversation about the pistol because dear lord is that hit detection poor. 343 is just awful.
Oh look someone who doesn’t know anything about the combat loop of Halo Infinite.
Oh look, someone literally can’t aim. Sorry about your disability
yeah sure looks like that, by his logic we should go back to the reach DMR pre bloom nerf
Hitscan needs to stay for GOOD. Projectile based weapons made skill become who had the best connection and NOT who had the best aim. Imagine Reaches DMR with bloom if it wasn’t hitscan, it would have made the gun intolerable to use!
Infinite is the closest Halo has been balanced since CE and that’s a FACT. Another fact? Infinites BR is S Tier and the best in the entire series by a huge margin. I don’t want it changed! I want other guns buffed or tweaked to match it, like the Commando. AR is finally viable, but has NO chance against the BR in even semi decent players. Two BR body bursts and a melee will kill any charging AR kid straight away.
Another reason why we NEED the weapon variants in matchmaking badly! The Striker is the next CE pistol with no bloom. We need more weapons in every category, and ALL the variants selectable in matchmaking.
Hate hate hat hate hate bloom. Also fix the effing pistol. If I hit every -Yoink!-…why don’t they die?