If, early next year, we all find out bloom will indeed be making a return in Halo 4, would you still consider buying the game or will you call it a day and forget about the game?
I doubt people who have been anticipating Halo 4 for quite some time will decide not to buy the game just because Bloom has been added in. Unless you’re a crazy multiplayer nut who absolutely hated Bloom (which is pretty much most of you here). If Bloom gets included, some of the community we will either spam the forums with so many hate threads, or another half of the community will just go with the flow and tell 343 how to properly implement Bloom (if possible of course).
I’d still get it. Bloom only really ticks me off in multiplayer, which I don’t do anymore.
People might say they won’t buy or play it, but you know they will.
> People might say they won’t buy or play it, but you know they will.
Why do you say that? The only thing i care about is the multiplayer, so if the mulitplayer sucks it is a dealbreaker for me. I have played 15000 games in halo 3’s matchmaking, knows every tactic, every jump and how and where to use every weapon. I have completed the halo 3 campaign 5 times, but know nothing about it. The only reason i have completed the campaign that many times is because i have helped others getting achievements. Even in my first playtrough i almost fell asleep, so it could not have been any other reasons.
If I don’t buy Halo 4 it won’t simply be for the community’s prized scape-goat. There has to be something more substantial against it than the misapplication of a single standard gameplay mechanic.
It would hold me off from buying at launch for sure… Bloom was the worst idea implemented into Halo 4, next to Armor Lock. It has no place being in Halo 4, ESPECIALLY if Hitscan is in the game, which it SHOULD be.
Bloom destroyed Reach.
Same for Halo 4 if it’s in.
I will play multi-player the same I have with every other Halo game (Over 3000 games per Halo). But I will still be stuck in the campaign for Halo 4.
No dealbreaker.
Dissapointing, yes. Then again, bloom has always been an invisible part of Halo in a way.
But one dissapointing thing is not nearly enough to not make me buy the game.
I find it sad how many people are willing to give up playing what could be a very well made game for one small thing that could work if implemented well but instead of looking for how to fix it are demanding it be removed.
> I find it sad how many people are willing to give up playing what could be a very well made game for one small thing that could work if implemented well but instead of looking for how to fix it are demanding it be removed.
Yes, but you’re forgetting that bloom has only been part of ONE halo game out of a multitude of halo games, so you can imagine the frustration and deepening disappointment by fans of the franchise who want bloom out of Halo for good. If bloom, not spread, had been part of Halo from the beginning, then I’d agree with you, but that’s simply not the case here.
As for me, if 343i is planning to include bloom in Halo 4, I’d be disappointed as well.
> > I find it sad how many people are willing to give up playing what could be a very well made game for one small thing that could work if implemented well but instead of looking for how to fix it are demanding it be removed.
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> Yes, but you’re forgetting that bloom has only been part of ONE halo game out of a multitude of halo games, so you can imagine the frustration and deepening disappointment by fans of the franchise who want bloom out of Halo for good. If bloom, not spread, had been part of Halo from the beginning, then I’d agree with you, but that’s simply not the case here.
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> As for me, if 343i is planning to include bloom in Halo 4, I’d be disappointed as well.
Recoil has also been in a small part in a few Halo games, I don’t remember so many complaining that it ruined the game.
Pretty hard to have it from the beginning considering Halo was really rushed to make the Xbox release date and so much was removed, change, and repeated to lengthen the game.
Plus, they didn’t think of it back in the day. It’s like saying a new game can’t have sprint because games 15 years ago didn’t have it.
It’s evolution of Gaming trends and ideas, we should be exploring new ideas and encouraging them, not demanding developers spend 3 years on a new game that is exactly the same as the previous. Even the CoD series tries new ideas, despite so many people complaining that it’s only a new map pack every year.
Bloom didn’t ruin Reach single-handedly. We had loadouts, no ranking-system- no bleed-through and more to thank for that. If 2 of those things make it in halo 4 i’m not buying it. I could live with one of them, but if theres 2 or more i know we’ll have Reach 2
> > > I find it sad how many people are willing to give up playing what could be a very well made game for one small thing that could work if implemented well but instead of looking for how to fix it are demanding it be removed.
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> > Yes, but you’re forgetting that bloom has only been part of ONE halo game out of a multitude of halo games, so you can imagine the frustration and deepening disappointment by fans of the franchise who want bloom out of Halo for good. If bloom, not spread, had been part of Halo from the beginning, then I’d agree with you, but that’s simply not the case here.
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> > As for me, if 343i is planning to include bloom in Halo 4, I’d be disappointed as well.
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> Recoil has also been in a small part in a few Halo games, I don’t remember so many complaining that it ruined the game.
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> Pretty hard to have it from the beginning considering Halo was really rushed to make the Xbox release date and so much was removed, change, and repeated to lengthen the game.
> Plus, they didn’t think of it back in the day. It’s like saying a new game can’t have sprint because games 15 years ago didn’t have it.
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> It’s evolution of Gaming trends and ideas, we should be exploring new ideas and encouraging them, not demanding developers spend 3 years on a new game that is exactly the same as the previous. Even the CoD series tries new ideas, despite so many people complaining that it’s only a new map pack every year.
Recoil and bloom are different things. If you want an example of recoil, shoot up an SMG in Halo 3 and you’ll clearly see the difference.
And yes, evolution of gaming is a good thing, especially for Halo. But you can evolve the game without picking apart the shooting mechanics that have made Halo what it was up until Halo Reach.
> Recoil and bloom are different things. If you want an example of recoil, shoot up an SMG in Halo 3 and you’ll clearly see the difference.
> And yes, evolution of gaming is a good thing, especially for Halo. But you can evolve the game without picking apart the shooting mechanics that have made Halo what it was up until Halo Reach.
I know, I was specifically talking about the SMG when speaking of recoil.
It’s still Halo. The only way you could completely change the shooting mechanics is to switch to aiming down the sights mechanic. For Reach they looked at another way to balance and add variety to different weapons instead of changing their strength and rate of fire.
I think that a spartan can’t have recoil with a weapon…
> > > I find it sad how many people are willing to give up playing what could be a very well made game for one small thing that could work if implemented well but instead of looking for how to fix it are demanding it be removed.
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> > Yes, but you’re forgetting that bloom has only been part of ONE halo game out of a multitude of halo games, so you can imagine the frustration and deepening disappointment by fans of the franchise who want bloom out of Halo for good. If bloom, not spread, had been part of Halo from the beginning, then I’d agree with you, but that’s simply not the case here.
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> > As for me, if 343i is planning to include bloom in Halo 4, I’d be disappointed as well.
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> Recoil has also been in a small part in a few Halo games, I don’t remember so many complaining that it ruined the game.
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> Pretty hard to have it from the beginning considering Halo was really rushed to make the Xbox release date and so much was removed, change, and repeated to lengthen the game.
> Plus, they didn’t think of it back in the day. It’s like saying a new game can’t have sprint because games 15 years ago didn’t have it.
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> It’s evolution of Gaming trends and ideas, we should be exploring new ideas and encouraging them, not demanding developers spend 3 years on a new game that is exactly the same as the previous. Even the CoD series tries new ideas, despite so many people complaining that it’s only a new map pack every year.
If you dont want a game like halo, there are MANY FPS for the 360 alone. I think this community deserves atleast ONE game like the first 3 halos.
I don’t really care whether bloom is in or not.
Doesn’t matter, really. If someone’s being so snotty about something like bloom that they won’t consider buying it, then you really shouldn’t be playing shooters. At all.