How would people feel about Blood Gulch being applied to Halo 5? I love the map personally, and think it could work with the changes we have seen to the Spartans, but I want some other peoples’ opinions on the matter.
More Blood Gulch is what we need!!!
I want to hear from people as well on if they think it should have any changes to the map due to unlimited sprint, the new aiming skin and such. Did you like the changes in Halo 2 Anniversary? Let me hear it all!
No for -Yoink- sake stop! Make it in forge like they did for reach, there’s other maps that would be much better as remakes! This is absurd.
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> No for -Yoink- sake stop! Make it in forge like they did for reach, there’s other maps that would be much better as remakes! This is absurd.
I count Hemorrhage as a proper remake. And I agree, but a great deal of people adore Blood Gulch and it’s variants, thus why I am asking.
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> > No for -Yoink- sake stop! Make it in forge like they did for reach, there’s other maps that would be much better as remakes! This is absurd.
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> I count Hemorrhage as a proper remake. And I agree, but a great deal of people adore Blood Gulch and it’s variants, thus why I am asking.
At this point after 3+ or however remakes, I think it’s kind of selfish to try to get it remade AGAIN, there are plenty of other maps that haven’t been in a game in a while, remake those. It’s like when you play customs and there’s those guys that say “Do that one again!” over and over again while others want to try something else, give other maps a chance for once, this is crazy. I’m find with a forge version, but if it is like reach where it is in gametypes where it doesn’t belong, and shows up WAY too often, then screw it take it out. It’s like team BR’s, I like team BR’s, but after it so many damn times every single game please stop, change it up! I haven’t played h2A in a long time because of team BR’s every game, I don’t want to miss out on gametypes because it is the map everyone always votes for in it’s gametypes.
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> At this point after 3+ or however remakes, I think it’s kind of selfish to try to get it remade AGAIN, there are plenty of other maps that haven’t been in a game in a while, remake those. It’s like when you play customs and there’s those guys that say “Do that one again!” over and over again while others want to try something else, give other maps a chance for once, this is crazy. I’m find with a forge version, but if it is like reach where it is in gametypes where it doesn’t belong, and shows up WAY too often, then screw it take it out. It’s like team BR’s, I like team BR’s, but after it so many damn times every single game please stop, change it up! I haven’t played h2A in a long time because of team BR’s every game, I don’t want to miss out on gametypes because it is the map everyone always votes for in it’s gametypes.
I agree, but that issue lies in needing to find a party to play with so you can influence voting, and a better voting system like what we saw in Halo Reach. Also I agree that Blood Gulch may not have the geography to really compliment the new verticality that Spartans have to them. I think that maps should be more correctly coined as 2v2, 4v4, 6v6, and 8v8 maps as well. With all that said, the hole in your arguement, is that if the majority of Halo fans want something, even if it’s done time and time again, we will see it come back, otherwise by the same extension, we have had the Battle Rifle in almost all the games, why not get rid of it? You know 99% of the community would outcry if something they love, even if done many times before would be missed.
I would think that Blood Gulch, Valhalla, or sandtrap should be remade.
That’s just my opinion, so don’t bag me for it!
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> I would think that Blood Gulch, Valhalla, or sandtrap should be remade.
> That’s just my opinion, so don’t bag me for it!
Sandtrap would be perhaps have the best verticality to it. Another one I think would be a great choice would be Headlong.
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> > At this point after 3+ or however remakes, I think it’s kind of selfish to try to get it remade AGAIN, there are plenty of other maps that haven’t been in a game in a while, remake those. It’s like when you play customs and there’s those guys that say “Do that one again!” over and over again while others want to try something else, give other maps a chance for once, this is crazy. I’m find with a forge version, but if it is like reach where it is in gametypes where it doesn’t belong, and shows up WAY too often, then screw it take it out. It’s like team BR’s, I like team BR’s, but after it so many damn times every single game please stop, change it up! I haven’t played h2A in a long time because of team BR’s every game, I don’t want to miss out on gametypes because it is the map everyone always votes for in it’s gametypes.
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> I agree, but that issue lies in needing to find a party to play with so you can influence voting, and a better voting system like what we saw in Halo Reach. Also I agree that Blood Gulch may not have the geography to really compliment the new verticality that Spartans have to them. I think that maps should be more correctly coined as 2v2, 4v4, 6v6, and 8v8 maps as well. With all that said, the hole in your arguement, is that if the majority of Halo fans want something, even if it’s done time and time again, we will see it come back, otherwise by the same extension, we have had the Battle Rifle in almost all the games, why not get rid of it? You know 99% of the community would outcry if something they love, even if done many times before would be missed.
I’m not saying remove it, just make it less common if it comes up too much, that’s it. If there are 8 maps in a gametype and bg is chosen near 100% of the time, make it appear less than an 8th of the time. Since TBR’s is there almost every voting session of three gametypes, make it 1/3 less common. Try to make a balance, since other maps aren’t chosen as much, then lower the chances of it being a choice until the games played on each map is around the same ratio.
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> I’m not saying remove it, just make it less common if it comes up too much, that’s it. If there are 8 maps in a gametype and bg is chosen near 100% of the time, make it appear less than an 8th of the time. Since TBR’s is there almost every voting session of three gametypes, make it 1/3 less common.
Agreed, I was simply making a point of hate the voters. 
And while I would love them to give us BG again, more for a sense of memory of the amazing map, my biggest desire is that the make sure that forging maps that implement the Spartan Abilities easy, while not restricting advanced forgers like myself to forge with training wheels like Halo 4 did.
Huge no.
The DMR destroyed it.
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> Huge no.
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> The DMR destroyed it.
Which is why I also asked about any revisions that people could think of for the map.
Keep in mind that the DMR is now more accurate, meaning individuals can shoot and cover better. You also have infinite sprint.
And with a lack of loadouts, they could make it so that there are never DMRs on Blood Gulch.
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> Huge no.
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> The DMR destroyed it.
No it didn’t. People seem to act like the DMR made Hemorrhage a campfest and stuff like that when in fact there seemed to be more movement on that version of the map than the previous 2.
No we had too many remakes of it.
YES!! I’ve seen a trend with Blood Gulch and Valhalla remakes and I’m pretty sure, about 75% sure it’ll be in Halo 5.
Halo CE: Blood Gulch
Halo 2: Coagulation, remake
Halo 3: Valhalla
Halo Wars: Blood Gulch
Halo Reach: Hemmorrhage, remake
Halo 4: Ragnarok, remake
Halo MCC: Bloodline, remake
Halo 5: ???
in the main games there have been remakes of blood gulch and Valhalla, and the pattern goes 2 Blood Gulches and one Valhalla.
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> No we had too many remakes of it.
If it’s something the community loves, why not remake it?
It’s pretty much a tradition at this point. Why stop now? I can really see it as something that will work in Halo 5. Since we can traverse the environment a whole lot quicker now, a big map like Blood Gulch would be perfect in my opinion.
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> It’s pretty much a tradition at this point. Why stop now? I can really see it as something that will work in Halo 5. Since we can traverse the environment a whole lot quicker now, a big map like Blood Gulch would be perfect in my opinion.
The question is how do you balance for the large amount of open area when even automatic weapons are more accurate now? More rocks? the barracks in the middle of the map? That’s one reason I’m bringing this all up.
There needs to be a blood gulch variant in every halo game. I,m hoping if we do get one in H5, that it has more vegetation and water, and generally feels more alive. All of 343s BTB maps to date have had a sort of dried up, dead feel that im really not big on.