Blocking in mcc affecting matchmaking

Currently in mcc you are able to block players to avoid playing agaisnt or with them. While this is good for avoiding toxicity and cheaters, it affects players blocked for little reason. A block should equal a general mute for the player, no notifications or messages in text chat. Users in mcc use the blocking system to avoid matching better players and losing games, teams in btb use this to “dodge” other parties and only match solo or lower skilled players, which isnt fair on them. To get around “being blocked” people use smurf accounts to match those who block them. This can lead to extra toxicity through the alt accounts being unknown which is just unnecessary.

This system needs adjusting where a block does not equal a dodge, but only a mute. As for cheaters they should be reported and have restricted matchmaking if reaching a threshold of reports, where theyll be investigated and banned of legitimate.

Let me thoughts on this :slight_smile:

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This is a notable problem for any long time players of this game. Good or even decent players can get blocked purely because the players they beat got upset from losing.

While blocking actual toxic players is a good thing, being blocked purely for having skill or playing with friends is abusive and shouldn’t be a thing. This also has the problem of making it harder to find games and just makes people resort to alt accounts just to play the game.

MCC already has enough issues with some games having low population. Blocking to avoid playing people just makes that infinitely worse.

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Completely agree, it just restricts other people as well who arent blocking as well

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True, I play with a large group of people and some are crybabies who block each other, so you can’t always match up against friends. ):

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Disagree. Its the only way to avoid betrayers, toxicity and for solo players to avoid full stacks afraid of playing ranked and only want to steamroll solos while bagging and shooting their bodies. If some form of party matching is re added to social or a mercenary playlist and ban times for griefing are increased significantly then I would support removing blocking.

A block list where you can block a limited number of players like Overwatch can be a compromise.

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This has to be the action 343 takes. Leaving this blocking solution in place is a problem.

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I think reports should handle this but i get what youre saying. The population is too small for this restriction i feel and should be eased now we have lower numbers. Reports should stop matching so they get investigated and banned

We do need party matching especially for btb 100%

I didn’t even know this worked for ranked. I’ll definitely be utilizing it.

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Literally we are blocking toxic TKers more than anything else. Don’t force us to play with people who CAN’T play with us.

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Why reports need to actually work

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Block everyone better than you and you just simply wont improve and rank up anyway. Double edged sword really. Theres rank matching for a reason and it doesnt work in ranked anyway

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*meant to say its not 100% effective in ranked, ive blocked TKers then matched them a game later

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I could care less about tryhards. There’s way to many team killers that aren’t being dealt with

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That is the whole purpose for that option, so that works as intended. For what reason a player does that, doesn’t matter. If it’s to avoid griefers, to avoid players on high ping servers, or to avoid players that are just way more or less skilled or to avoid fully stacked teams, it’s up to that player to decide who to block.

No, people just smurf to get matched against way less skilled players and stomp them.

Reporting doesn’t work, because that cheater then would just create an alt. Blocking is way more effective.

Upset for losing, or upset for not getting a fair match? I think the real problem is the lack of a functioning SBMM and party matching, wich creates a hack of a lot of completely one-sided matches.

I disagree here. I think people who block to avoid peopledo that because it’s their only way to get real matches, If they didn’t had that option, i think most of them would just quit playing pvp, so you will lose them entirely. Better a player who just plays against a portion of the population, then a player who doesn’t play against anyone anymore.

Only against that 1 player. If that is already a big problem, then it’s not on that person, but on the game. That person will not play against you no matter what. If he couldn’t block you, he would just quit out of matches against you or quit playing pvp altogether.
Taking away blocking is damaging for the game, since it’s the only option to avoid griefers. Reporting doesn’t work, because the griefer will then just create an alt. Blocking and not reporting is the only thing that actually works.

On top of that: blocking is cross games, so how does 343 know if that player wasn’t blocked because player B was toxic in another game?

Fully agreed, but notjust in BTB, but also in 4v4 ofcourse. But i think that would restrict you more from matching players then that couple of people who block though.

It doesn’t work for ranked. I have had a griefer blocked, just to encounter that player in ranked and got teamkilled by him/her…

Very true. I hardly play pvp anymore on MCC, since you never get fair matches (lack of SBMM and party matching), way to much matches have quitters, AFK’ers and/or griefers and playlists that i like often have way to long search times. I ain’t waiting for 5 minutes to get a match where i can’t even have fun, because it’s completely lopsided or you get griefed by others.

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TBH the most toxic players in my experience aka t-baggers, body shooters and trash talkers are those full teams of 3 and 4 in social 4v4. I rarely come across de-rankers/team killers in comparison to how often I run into teams of 3 and 4 (basically run into them almost every game). Regardless blocking is the only way for solo players to have a decent match anymore by avoiding full teams and team killers/griefers/de-rankers/etc. I imagine very few people utilize blocking as most don’t know about it (myself included until recently via this forum). I would use it but blocking so many social teams is a lot of work and I am basically done with the game because of the lack of party matching (it’s just not fun anymore given the lack of party matching which causes me to match full teams constantly, the same reason most people don’t bother with this game anymore that I’ve talked to in the MCC community). I feel like the full teams complain about the low population the most while not realizing their pub-stomping of the solo players is the reason the game is dead (as the majority of people don’t bother to search social anymore due to them). The population will never increase until 343 does something to restore balance to the game because there’s no incentive to play it in its current state.

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I do agree that there should be some form of party matching. The game should at least try for about a minute or two find another group instead of just throwing a full stack into a game against randoms instantly

On the topic of blocking for losing, there are people who block even if they lose close games which is sad. I understand frustration from getting completely destroyed but that’s still a bad reason to block that individual.