After I spend about 600€ for microtransactions in Halo 5 between the release and three months after it, (my friends (about 8 people I play with) spend so many money too) and yeah its pay to win. Of course now you can say that our gameplay is good and we can kill our enemys without pay to win but actually its pay to win. If you think “no it`s not” then you just do it wrong. Having a lobby of 6 players with P2W is enough to dominate the whole match.
So now with Blitz we have those legendary cards etc. So we will have microtransactions too. I dont think that it was Creative Assemblys idea to do that microtransaction stuff. More and 343/Microsoft.
I will be happy to see people saying “that`s no pay 2 win”.you never played a game with microtransaction or?
[“Tactical Combat Meets ‘Micro-transactions’. Your Money is your Army. “The new mode everyone expected” - IGN”]
[“Nobody expected it, alright. I’m guessing nobody asked for or wanted it either. Stop throwing in obligatory game modes that cater to microtransactions”]
Halo 5 was balanced with micro-transactions. I never buy and with load out weapons beat p2w players while also having high amounts of reqs. I’m sure blitz will be fine.
Not to mention p2w will just give you duplicates to upgrade cards, and even that won’t do much
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> Halo 5 was balanced with micro-transactions. I never buy and with load out weapons beat p2w players while also having high amounts of reqs. I’m sure blitz will be fine.
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> Not to mention p2w will just give you duplicates to upgrade cards, and even that won’t do much
No - it was not balanced. In the first five months you easily win with pay to win. I and my buddies arent that bad and having MND-tank after 2 days and nearly the complete armor sets isnt pay to win? Okay…
microtransactions are one of the reasons i bought h5 used and i will not buy halo wars 2 (so 343/MS wouldn’t get any money for implementing this system)
and they are clearly pay2win, because if 2 player with the same skill have different weaponst (1 player has got more stronger weapons because he spend money), the one who bought the huge arsenal has the advantage and will most likely win the game.
in older halos it was all about map and power weapon controll. if you controlled the power weapons you were likely to win. of course other skilled players could still beat you, but they had a clear disadvantage. now the people who spend money have access to power weapons more often than people who don’t = pay2win.
people still supporting and even defending this stuff and now even in strategy games like halo wars 2, are the reason the industry is declining into a pay2win industry. it will only beome more aggressive until the crash the game industry is heading towards now.
Yea it is pay to win, but it’s only Blitz mode, which I have a feeling won’t be popular anyways. Just like the original HW, anything other than standard is trash.
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> Yea it is pay to win, but it’s only Blitz mode, which I have a feeling won’t be popular anyways. Just like the original HW, anything other than standard is trash.
I can’t believe you actually spent real money on Halo 5, shame on you! Obviously microtransactions do not belong in Halo and I as the majority want it out from our franchise. Microtransactions in Blitz is definitely gonna be a giant problem compared to Halo 5. In Halo 5 there are several people who can balance it out but in Halo Wars 2 where you’ll play 1v1 - 2v2 - 3v3 is gonna be a giant problem, especially since it’s an RTS where units matter a lot!
If there wouldn’t be any way to get stronger units from the same units then it wouldn’t as much of a problem but since you can upgrade a card unit and get legendary units with I have no idea what kind of insane buffs and strengths they will have, that is screwed up.
CA LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVES DLCs, they truly LOVE IT with a passion but microtransactions is not their thing, yet at least so it’s definitely someone else pulling the strings behind the scenes again… Looking at YOU Microsoft!
Never surrender your money for something as worthless as reqs or cards, it just silly, but at the same time I thank those suckers for funding 343 updates
In Halo 5 best weapons and best vehicules are Legendary “cards”, so if you want to get all of these cards, you have to pay.
In Halo Wars 2, the most usefull cards (Reaver, Wolverines, Scorpions, Vultures etc…) are only commun (or uncommun) cards.
Did you see what are legendary cards ? A scarab or a super-pelican that go away after 10 secondes… Jerome (AKA “The Useless”)…
Did you see how many energy cost those legendary cards ?
No, if you aren’t stupid and have a minimum of skill, you won’t have to pay to win in Blitz mode.
People need to calm down. The microtransactions are only in Blitz mode. If you’re worried about pay to win – and I don’t really think you should be, but whatever – here’s what you do: Don’t. Play. Blitz. Mode. Go play deathmatch (which is renamed standard mode) or domination. Have fun, enjoy your life. Blitz didn’t exist in HW1 so it’s not like you’ll be missing out on something you were counting on.
I’ll happily give Blitz mode a try and though I won’t pay for cards, I hope others do. The more money 343 makes, the more likely we are to get Halo Wars 3. But seriously, stop complaining about something that isn’t going to even be relevant for the basic modes of the game.
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> People need to calm down. The microtransactions are only in Blitz mode. If you’re worried about pay to win – and I don’t really think you should be, but whatever – here’s what you do: Don’t. Play. Blitz. Mode. Go play deathmatch (which is renamed standard mode) or domination. Have fun, enjoy your life. Blitz didn’t exist in HW1 so it’s not like you’ll be missing out on something you were counting on.
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> I’ll happily give Blitz mode a try and though I won’t pay for cards, I hope others do. The more money 343 makes, the more likely we are to get Halo Wars 3. But seriously, stop complaining about something that isn’t going to even be relevant for the basic modes of the game.
Blitz looks like Reinforcement mode in HW1.
Except that you weren’t able to choose your units in HW1.
don’t play the gamemode (although i payed for it by buying the game)
and: it’s worse in other games
and where exactly is the benefit of MTs? “free updates in h5” was used as an excuse to release an unfinished, kind of early access game. so the updates just brought h5 on par with a standard halo game and added useless skins. yes, they also added new maps and weapons, but again, thats all stuff that should have been there at launch, because most of the weapons allready existed in previous installments.
i don’t think that they are lazy, i just think they are trying out how mutch money they can milk out of the community. and what i am seeing, they are getting through with it and they will implement a real aggressive pay2win model in future halos. (and i cann see people will still defending it by saying: “just stick to the campaign”)
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> I can’t believe you actually spent real money on Halo 5, shame on you! Obviously microtransactions do not belong in Halo and I as the majority want it out from our franchise. Microtransactions in Blitz is definitely gonna be a giant problem compared to Halo 5. In Halo 5 there are several people who can balance it out but in Halo Wars 2 where you’ll play 1v1 - 2v2 - 3v3 is gonna be a giant problem, especially since it’s an RTS where units matter a lot!
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> If there wouldn’t be any way to get stronger units from the same units then it wouldn’t as much of a problem but since you can upgrade a card unit and get legendary units with I have no idea what kind of insane buffs and strengths they will have, that is screwed up.
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> CA LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVES DLCs, they truly LOVE IT with a passion but microtransactions is not their thing, yet at least so it’s definitely someone else pulling the strings behind the scenes again… Looking at YOU Microsoft!
Now you must believe it ^^ Well yeah microtransaction sucks but 343/-Yoink!- don`t care for it
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> There is like a dozen of threads on this - couldn’t you have just picked any of those to make your point.
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> On topic: If you don’t like it, don’t use any money. There are other modes for you to play. Move along.
I see you dont get it. Were talking there about Halo Wars 2 microtransaction, not Halo 5.
Personally I dont like it and some people think its not pay to win. And yes, it was good to buy for 600€ REQ`s to show the people how f*** that kind of system is
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> Though to be completely fair, there are games with far worse microtransactions like star citizen which has micro shich costs 18,000 pound
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> not that that justifies this
Understand your argument, main problem is, that good franchises (C&C is a good example) how publisher/producer want more money from you… okay I mean -Yoink!- already got EA`s “Gimme-Yor-Money-Award” … xD
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> > Halo 5 was balanced with micro-transactions. I never buy and with load out weapons beat p2w players while also having high amounts of reqs. I’m sure blitz will be fine.
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> > Not to mention p2w will just give you duplicates to upgrade cards, and even that won’t do much
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> No - it was not balanced. In the first five months you easily win with pay to win. I and my buddies arent that bad and having MND-tank after 2 days and nearly the complete armor sets isnt pay to win? Okay…
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> What is pay2win for you then?
You thought the first month’s were pay to win? It’s the later days that were closer to being pay to win. They have a tank? Literally walk up to it and board it. Sniper? Shoot them. Shotgun? SHOOT THEM. Camping with a shotgun? Walk away. Not to mention, even if they had bought 100 gold packs they would receive a bunch of common junk, which was usually armor and emblems (because for a while emblems took up a permanent unlock slot). Also, armor isn’t p2w. It’s p2lookmoderatelyadequate.
What isn’t p2w to you? Simply having micro-transactions for a minigame doesn’t mean the game is p2w.
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> I think the title said enough.
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> After I spend about 600€ for microtransactions in Halo 5 between the release and three months after it, (my friends (about 8 people I play with) spend so many money too) and yeah its pay to win. Of course now you can say that our gameplay is good and we can kill our enemys without pay to win but actually its pay to win. If you think “no it`s not” then you just do it wrong. Having a lobby of 6 players with P2W is enough to dominate the whole match.
So now with Blitz we have those legendary cards etc. So we will have microtransactions too. I dont think that it was Creative Assemblys idea to do that microtransaction stuff. More and 343/Microsoft.
I will be happy to see people saying "thats no pay 2 win".you never played a game with microtransaction or? > *["Tactical Combat Meets 'Micro-transactions'. Your Money is your Army. "The new mode everyone expected" - IGN"]**["Nobody expected it, alright. I'm guessing nobody asked for or wanted it either. Stop throwing in obligatory game modes that cater to microtransactions"]*Some of the comments below the new Blitz mode Halo Wars 2 Blitz Mode Trailer > > So it will be fun to see fanboys saying (yeah fanboy streorotype) thats no pay to win or that that isn`t so affecting the game.
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> The point if my thread is, that those microtransactions must go away from that franchise… Bad enough the halo is no longer the sign of microsoft…
I don’t quite agree with halo 5 being p2w at all. If you care about p2w at all it means you want to be competitive and win on a balanced playing field. None of the microtranactions in h5 affect arena or any other mode outside of war zone (which isn’t competitive). Even if warzone was the only game mode in the game, buying req packs isn’t enough to dominate a match, win a match, or even raise your k/d in that match. I can personally confirm that, or maybe it’s just because I’m just that good…