Big Team Battles w/o vehicles

Hi everyone!

After much consideration, i have decided to ask the forums their opinions and hope this get 343’s attention if a lot of people agree. Most of the night, I get off work and do what needs to be done and then relax by connecting with a few buddies and play some halo. We are not serious gamers by any means but we do get into our games and it is very enjoyable for us to play as a group in certain game types. This specifically concerns Big Team Battles though. I love the game type and all…but i DESPISE vehicles in the game type for the reason that…it is not a good test of how good of a player you are to hop in a vehicle, and just run people over or fly all over the map and bomb people from the skies. I play a big team battle to see how good of a player i am against 8 others in hand to hand combat not hand to vehicle combat. I personally don’t get in a vehicle unless i just get annoyed and then start screwing around and want the match type to be over b/c i obviously can’t leave or i’ll get the ban-hammer. I absolutely dislike having vehicles or at least certain vehicles on maps. Examples of maps that need vehicles removed…Guillotine - BANSHEE, WARTHOG / DeadLock - WARTHOG’s, GHOSTS. It’s just not fun to go 3 -17 b/c you can’t get out of your base or what not ( I understand there are power weapons to destroy them but it still is not fun…just remove them). My vote would be to remove all vehicles from Big Team Battles and have a ranked playlist, and then have a Big Team Battles social list w/ vehicles so you have both playlist. If i have missed anything things please…add to it and discuss! Hope to create an interesting topic. Thanks!

The only problem is that whole point of BTB is to have 8v8 vehicular and infantry combat. I think it might be better if BTB was only infantry and Heavies was BTB with a large vehicle emphasis.

I would actually love to see even more vehicles in BTB… maybe like the “heavies” gametype in reach…

It is also pretty easy to BR a guy out of his warthog or ghost, and the banshee in guillotine normally doesnt survive longer than 30secs

So, no… please let the vehicles be as they are

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> I would actually love to see even more vehicles in BTB… maybe like the “heavies” gametype in reach…
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> It is also pretty easy to BR a guy out of his warthog or ghost, and the banshee in guillotine normally doesnt survive longer than 30secs
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> So, no… please let the vehicles be as they are

I agree with this, especially since the vehicles in Halo 5 make a much smaller impact than in the previous Halos. They are seemingly less durable, more susceptible to boarding and harder to maneuver than the older variants.

It’s bad enough they made vehicles out of paper mache. I’d like to see more of them and have them be a tad bit stronger.

I fully agree and wish they would remove a lot of the vehicles from the btb maps…

Anytime i get Basin the other team will literally drive around gunning their warthog the entire frickin match. Ill BR the gunner out, then the driver just goes right back to pick someone else up to gun. Basin might be the worst in that regard.

Banshee on guillotine is awful too. If my teammate beats me to laser and he happens to be incompetent then that banshee ends up flying around for half the game.

Dont even get me started on the gungooses…

I mean, I get that some times its fun to hope in a vehicle and drive around and all that…but there are just some maps imo that shouldn’t have certain vehicles. You could argue that,“well, why don’t you go and get the vehicle your self?” For me, it’s just not fun. I like seeing how i stack up against a player…one on one…or one on two or more. All i know, is my K/D suffers at the hands of those vehicles and I’m by no means a terrible player…i should have a K/D of around 1+…not sub 1. But then you can argue I should play more none vehicle games…but i like big team battle! lol I know, it’s hard to make everyone happy…it’s just a suggestion of making more game types.

Historically, BTB has included vehicular combat because it leads to pure chaos. If that’s not your cup of tea, that’s one thing, but it’s one of the few things Halo 5 does that keeps lockstep with the rest of the franchise.

It would be fun if there was some tight urban maps with no vehicles, just buildings with multiple entrances to run around in, like a large Rainbow Six map, sorta.

Likewise, there would also have to be maps more like Rat’s Nest that are just a racetrack for vehicles.

The main reason I have played BTB for the last 10+ years is for vehicles. Vehicles add chaos and unpredictability. That is why I love Warzone so much.

BTB without vehicles is like peanut butter without the jelly.

If you’re getting destroyed by vehicles and not able to get out of your base, then you probably have a terrible team so no vehicles wouldn’t make a difference or you need to adjust your playstyle. Yeah, you’ll get deaths from vehicles, but you can try and lower it by grabbing anti-vehicle weapons or moving around the map better so your encounters with them are more in your favor which can give you the option to board them.

What is the point of BTB without vehicles? Where else would you use them then? Dont even say warzone because to me warzone sucks…it’s not nearly as fun to me as BTB is.

My request is to just have REGULAR mongooses, not gungooses. Swap that out and I’m fine with it. Also just reduce the spawn time a bit. Instead of every 1 minutes for example, make it 1.5 or 2. Just make the vehicles a little less spammy.

I love vehicles in btb, without them then I might as well play team arena.

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> I mean, I get that some times its fun to hope in a vehicle and drive around and all that…but there are just some maps imo that shouldn’t have certain vehicles. You could argue that,“well, why don’t you go and get the vehicle your self?” For me, it’s just not fun. I like seeing how i stack up against a player…one on one…or one on two or more. All i know, is my K/D suffers at the hands of those vehicles and I’m by no means a terrible player…i should have a K/D of around 1+…not sub 1. But then you can argue I should play more none vehicle games…but i like big team battle! lol I know, it’s hard to make everyone happy…it’s just a suggestion of making more game types.

In BTB you should not have very many instances where you can compare yourself to others 1v1 or 1v2. BTB is about chaos and larger numbers of players and vehicles cause chaos. You say you like BTB but seem to dislike what makes it BTB.

Really without vehicles in BTB, I might as well go play COD.

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> What is the point of BTB without vehicles? Where else would you use them then? Dont even say warzone because to me warzone sucks…it’s not nearly as fun to me as BTB is.

I’m an avid warzone player, but still agree with this (Not on the warzone sucking part, but on the rest).

There is no other Arena playlist with vehicles. It’s kinda the whole point of BTB. In actuality what you really want is basic slayer on large maps, which would simply turn into a BR campfest and be an utter disaster.

Without vehicles to mix things up, people have no incentive to do anything but sit back and try to scope the enemy team and occasionally run for a power weapon.

Also, the vehicles shouldn’t really be that much of an impact on your deaths unless you’re just running out into the open whenever a vehicle is around you. The majority of the time you should still be having fights between other people that are not in vehicles.