Big team battle 2.0, Global battles & other dreams

I just seen Mint Blitz community post on YouTube and it got my head racing. So apparently the multiplayer launch focuses on 343’s new iteration of big team battle, BTB 2.0. This got me thinking about global battles, originally conceived during Halo 2, scrapped, brought back for Halo 3, scrapped again, and instead went on to influence what we now call Warzone in Halo 5.

This gives me true visions of grandeur.

Imagine, storming a Battlefield, an army of Spartans and elites on both sides, massive in scale. How many players on a side? 8? 16? 32? Time will tell.

The battles would be legendary, each one different from the last.

This is what I envision.

I can’t wait to see how else 343 blow our puny little minds.

Personally I love that we can have other spartan generations, such as gen 3 Spartans, gen 1, gen 2 and gen 4 and 5. Insanity.

I am looking forward to seeing how well clans can integrate into infinite, and how they will survive.

Leave a comment sharing your thoughts and feelings on all this.

I wouldn’t say that the multiplayer focuses on a BTB 2.0.
I’m sure it’ll be a thing and a new featured mode for certain just how Warzone for Halo 5 was its featured mode.

As I’m sure it has been and will be said many times, take it as a grain of salt until it’s confirmed no matter how credible the source, a leak is a leak and things are always subject to change.

I don’t remember anything ever being said about Spartan Generations from the original source of the information. Is that just something you’d like or ? Because that’s never actually been explicitly mentioned to my knowledge.

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> I wouldn’t say that the multiplayer focuses on a BTB 2.0.
> I’m sure it’ll be a thing and a new featured mode for certain just how Warzone for Halo 5 was its featured mode.
>
> As I’m sure it has been and will be said many times, take it as a grain of salt until it’s confirmed no matter how credible the source, a leak is a leak and things are always subject to change.
>
> I don’t remember anything ever being said about Spartan Generations from the original source of the information. Is that just something you’d like or ? Because that’s never actually been explicitly mentioned to my knowledge.

I only said the LAUNCH will focus on btb 2.0.

Also have you not seen the news article from ages ago that spoke about customisation for player characters? I suggest doing a bit of digging. There are several generations of Spartans you can be.

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> > I wouldn’t say that the multiplayer focuses on a BTB 2.0.
> > I’m sure it’ll be a thing and a new featured mode for certain just how Warzone for Halo 5 was its featured mode.
> >
> > As I’m sure it has been and will be said many times, take it as a grain of salt until it’s confirmed no matter how credible the source, a leak is a leak and things are always subject to change.
> >
> > I don’t remember anything ever being said about Spartan Generations from the original source of the information. Is that just something you’d like or ? Because that’s never actually been explicitly mentioned to my knowledge.
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> I only said the LAUNCH will focus on btb 2.0.
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> Also have you not seen the news article from ages ago that spoke about customisation for player characters? I suggest doing a bit of digging. There are several generations of Spartans you can be.

I’ve been keeping up to date with Halo Infinite since it was announced. Upon searching the web - which I did prior to posting my original comment and done again. There are not results for choosing Spartan generations in Halo Infinite. Is it possible I just haven’t been able to find them? Yes. Unless you’re able to provide that information yourself?

And it’s quite possible the launch period may be focused on the apparent “BTB 2.0” but once again, nowhere in the original source of that information did it state that would be the case. That is all assumption.

I’ve seen a couple videos about that this morning. Apparently a reliable Halo leaker twitted that:

  • Halo Infinite will not have a Battle Royale mode - Instead they’re doing an expanded “Big Team Battle 2.0”. - BTB 2.0 will feature enhanced vehicular combat, squad spawn, incoming Pelican drops and more surprisesRead more here.

An expanded BTB seems quite in line with previous rumours of a massive battle mode similar with what the Battlefield series does. And I believe that is also what most fans were hoping for.

I wish that featured a Spartan x Banished battle, but the alleged leak does not mention that at all. It would be a very big thing to miss if you had insider information, hence if the leak is true, I think we can pretty much rule out playable elites and brutes, which is a shame.

However, I’m happy that 343i could be designing this mode in order to spotlight vehicular combat, which was seriously de-emphasized in Halo 5 multiplayer. I hope those Pelican drops are nothing similar to Halo 5’s Warzone mode, where you could redeem your REQ vehicles with points you accumulated during the game. That frequently resulted in very lopsided battles, where the dominating team also got more firepower and the game quickly snowballed to a carnage. Instead, I’d prefer the Pelicans to behave in a scripted way, regularly dropping power weapons or better vehicles, like Scorpion Tanks in some specific spots on the map and both teams had to fight for the booty.

In addition, if that rumour is true, I hope that is not the only additional mode that 343i is working with. I’d appreciate a PvE co-op mode as well.

Just remember that a lot of the stuff being discussed are rumours. These things may not be in the final game and really shouldn’t be treated at all like they will be.
There is this handy flowchart that’s pinned in the official Halo discord server, I’ll leave it here.

Edit: …but Big Team Battle 2.0 would be absolutely rad and long overdue.

Too bad a mode like Big Team Battle 2.0 would be limited by the capabilities of Xbox One if they’re going for something truly new in the franchise. For the sake of the game I hope they just say to hell with Xbox One and let the game mode run at 20 fps instead of cut the game mode back so that it runs well on Xbox One.

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> Just remember that a lot of the stuff being discussed are rumours. These things may not be in the final game and really shouldn’t be treated at all like they will be.

I cannot emphasize this enough. Until it is announced by 343 do not count any rumor as true. We’ve already seen several “leaks” and “rumors” debunked. Don’t get your hopes up for anything that hasn’t officially been announced.

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> I just seen Mint Blitz community post on YouTube and it got my head racing. So apparently the multiplayer launch focuses on 343’s new iteration of big team battle, BTB 2.0. This got me thinking about global battles, originally conceived during Halo 2, scrapped, brought back for Halo 3, scrapped again, and instead went on to influence what we now call Warzone in Halo 5.
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> This gives me true visions of grandeur.
>
> Imagine, storming a Battlefield, an army of Spartans and elites on both sides, massive in scale. How many players on a side? 8? 16? 32? Time will tell.
>
> The battles would be legendary, each one different from the last.
>
> This is what I envision.
>
> I can’t wait to see how else 343 blow our puny little minds.
>
> Personally I love that we can have other spartan generations, such as gen 3 Spartans, gen 1, gen 2 and gen 4 and 5. Insanity.
>
> I am looking forward to seeing how well clans can integrate into infinite, and how they will survive.
>
> Leave a comment sharing your thoughts and feelings on all this.

Yea I heard about this on Twitter, but the post was deleted. Maybe that means it was fake and 343 told him to take it down so there’s no fake news, OR it was somewhat correct and they didn’t want it leaked. I was personally hoping there would be a battle royale in infinite because there would be so many possibilities and it would be sick but if there is this BTB 2.0 hopefully it’s good

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> > I just seen Mint Blitz community post on YouTube and it got my head racing. So apparently the multiplayer launch focuses on 343’s new iteration of big team battle, BTB 2.0. This got me thinking about global battles, originally conceived during Halo 2, scrapped, brought back for Halo 3, scrapped again, and instead went on to influence what we now call Warzone in Halo 5.
> >
> > This gives me true visions of grandeur.
> >
> > Imagine, storming a Battlefield, an army of Spartans and elites on both sides, massive in scale. How many players on a side? 8? 16? 32? Time will tell.
> >
> > The battles would be legendary, each one different from the last.
> >
> > This is what I envision.
> >
> > I can’t wait to see how else 343 blow our puny little minds.
> >
> > Personally I love that we can have other spartan generations, such as gen 3 Spartans, gen 1, gen 2 and gen 4 and 5. Insanity.
> >
> > I am looking forward to seeing how well clans can integrate into infinite, and how they will survive.
> >
> > Leave a comment sharing your thoughts and feelings on all this.
>
> Yea I heard about this on Twitter, but the post was deleted. Maybe that means it was fake and 343 told him to take it down so there’s no fake news, OR it was somewhat correct and they didn’t want it leaked. I was personally hoping there would be a battle royale in infinite because there would be so many possibilities and it would be sick but if there is this BTB 2.0 hopefully it’s good

Just no. WHY the hell do people want Battle Royale in every game? That’s so stupid. Again.

Halo has so good playlists/gametypes that should return before anybody should think about BR.

VIP from Halo 3 should return, Reach#s Invasion, a real Firefight [not that Halo 5 trash]. If anybody want something like Carrier Assault from BF4 or that thing from SW BF2.

But no Battle Royale. It’s a nice kind of gametype but totally not something for an Halo playlist.

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> > > I just seen Mint Blitz community post on YouTube and it got my head racing. So apparently the multiplayer launch focuses on 343’s new iteration of big team battle, BTB 2.0. This got me thinking about global battles, originally conceived during Halo 2, scrapped, brought back for Halo 3, scrapped again, and instead went on to influence what we now call Warzone in Halo 5.
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> > > This gives me true visions of grandeur.
> > >
> > > Imagine, storming a Battlefield, an army of Spartans and elites on both sides, massive in scale. How many players on a side? 8? 16? 32? Time will tell.
> > >
> > > The battles would be legendary, each one different from the last.
> > >
> > > This is what I envision.
> > >
> > > I can’t wait to see how else 343 blow our puny little minds.
> > >
> > > Personally I love that we can have other spartan generations, such as gen 3 Spartans, gen 1, gen 2 and gen 4 and 5. Insanity.
> > >
> > > I am looking forward to seeing how well clans can integrate into infinite, and how they will survive.
> > >
> > > Leave a comment sharing your thoughts and feelings on all this.
> >
> > Yea I heard about this on Twitter, but the post was deleted. Maybe that means it was fake and 343 told him to take it down so there’s no fake news, OR it was somewhat correct and they didn’t want it leaked. I was personally hoping there would be a battle royale in infinite because there would be so many possibilities and it would be sick but if there is this BTB 2.0 hopefully it’s good
>
> Just no. WHY the hell do people want Battle Royale in every game? That’s so stupid. Again.
>
> Halo has so good playlists/gametypes that should return before anybody should think about BR.
>
> VIP from Halo 3 should return, Reach#s Invasion, a real Firefight [not that Halo 5 trash]. If anybody want something like Carrier Assault from BF4 or that thing from SW BF2.
>
> But no Battle Royale. It’s a nice kind of gametype but totally not something for an Halo playlist.

Ok… that’s your opinion. There’s no correct answer. I think a battle royale in halo infinite with tons of Spartans and infinites new weapons on a huge map would be a nice change of pace. Maybe pelican drops that drop power weapons, and since infinite is on a broken ring, the map could start to collapse making people go closer together. There’s so many possibilities that can be brought to life, but none of that can happen if you stick to the same old stuff. We need a change of pace

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> > > > I just seen Mint Blitz community post on YouTube and it got my head racing. So apparently the multiplayer launch focuses on 343’s new iteration of big team battle, BTB 2.0. This got me thinking about global battles, originally conceived during Halo 2, scrapped, brought back for Halo 3, scrapped again, and instead went on to influence what we now call Warzone in Halo 5.
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> > > > This gives me true visions of grandeur.
> > > >
> > > > Imagine, storming a Battlefield, an army of Spartans and elites on both sides, massive in scale. How many players on a side? 8? 16? 32? Time will tell.
> > > >
> > > > The battles would be legendary, each one different from the last.
> > > >
> > > > This is what I envision.
> > > >
> > > > I can’t wait to see how else 343 blow our puny little minds.
> > > >
> > > > Personally I love that we can have other spartan generations, such as gen 3 Spartans, gen 1, gen 2 and gen 4 and 5. Insanity.
> > > >
> > > > I am looking forward to seeing how well clans can integrate into infinite, and how they will survive.
> > > >
> > > > Leave a comment sharing your thoughts and feelings on all this.
> > >
> > > Yea I heard about this on Twitter, but the post was deleted. Maybe that means it was fake and 343 told him to take it down so there’s no fake news, OR it was somewhat correct and they didn’t want it leaked. I was personally hoping there would be a battle royale in infinite because there would be so many possibilities and it would be sick but if there is this BTB 2.0 hopefully it’s good
> >
> > Just no. WHY the hell do people want Battle Royale in every game? That’s so stupid. Again.
> >
> > Halo has so good playlists/gametypes that should return before anybody should think about BR.
> >
> > VIP from Halo 3 should return, Reach#s Invasion, a real Firefight [not that Halo 5 trash]. If anybody want something like Carrier Assault from BF4 or that thing from SW BF2.
> >
> > But no Battle Royale. It’s a nice kind of gametype but totally not something for an Halo playlist.
>
> Ok… that’s your opinion. There’s no correct answer. I think a battle royale in halo infinite with tons of Spartans and infinites new weapons on a huge map would be a nice change of pace. Maybe pelican drops that drop power weapons, and since infinite is on a broken ring, the map could start to collapse making people go closer together. There’s so many possibilities that can be brought to life, but none of that can happen if you stick to the same old stuff. We need a change of pace

It would take a huge amount of work and time, both 343 can’t take out of nowhere.
Also the old “We need chagne of pace”-talking is one of the biggest trash things I heard of.

Let me explain:
Halo 2 and 3 and Reach had mostly simple changes, small changes, changes that were still a good thing. Maybe they had an golden eye for things like that.
Looking how big the Playerbase in Halo 3 and Reach was is a simple “Yes, you are right” - people had fun in both games.

Then there were many changes with Halo 4 in a bad way and you are able to see on the populationcounter how few player actually played the game or better I say how less people that game had. Same with Halo 5 but with many new stuff and a totally bad way in marketing, campaign and MP [or why is there no playercounter anymore and no official statistics and why did I and friends were matched against the same people after about an year?].

I would say we had very much change in the past and the changes in that last 8 years were kinda bad for the franchise.

A step into BR is a bad step. You think that it’s not that hard to make a BR game or? Still it needs ton of work.

Fortnite, Warzone, PUBG, Apex, BF5 BR - five big names and I’m sure there are more on the way. So why not focussing on something that 343 could create? Something where they can say “Hey, that was our idea”.

A friend of mine is playing a lot of Warzone and he is bored how often weapons got nerfs and buffs.
Same would be there in an Halo Infinite BR mode - not that only the small group of e-sport fans [who already get way too much attention in my p
opinion cause Halo lives from the casual Halo fan who also likes weapons that are kinda useless because of astethic] would complain about the weapon balancing but it would go into another level of complaining about how strong, OP or weak weapon XYZ is.

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> > Just remember that a lot of the stuff being discussed are rumours. These things may not be in the final game and really shouldn’t be treated at all like they will be.
>
> I cannot emphasize this enough. Until it is announced by 343 do not count any rumor as true. We’ve already seen several “leaks” and “rumors” debunked. Don’t get your hopes up for anything that hasn’t officially been announced.

It more than likely comes from a place of excitement more than anything else, still, in the images that show the 2 Spartans, one wearing Jorges armor, the undersuit looks very much like the one from reach, only higher detail.

I think the techsuit addition to Mcc is more of a reflection of something 343 wants to bring to the community, and I’m speculative that it’s also going to be a feature in Infinite.

Imagine Big Team Battle 2.0 on old gen hardware like the Xbox One.

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> Imagine Big Team Battle 2.0 on old gen hardware like the Xbox One.

It would be a NIGHTMARE.

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> > > I just seen Mint Blitz community post on YouTube and it got my head racing. So apparently the multiplayer launch focuses on 343’s new iteration of big team battle, BTB 2.0. This got me thinking about global battles, originally conceived during Halo 2, scrapped, brought back for Halo 3, scrapped again, and instead went on to influence what we now call Warzone in Halo 5.
> > >
> > > This gives me true visions of grandeur.
> > >
> > > Imagine, storming a Battlefield, an army of Spartans and elites on both sides, massive in scale. How many players on a side? 8? 16? 32? Time will tell.
> > >
> > > The battles would be legendary, each one different from the last.
> > >
> > > This is what I envision.
> > >
> > > I can’t wait to see how else 343 blow our puny little minds.
> > >
> > > Personally I love that we can have other spartan generations, such as gen 3 Spartans, gen 1, gen 2 and gen 4 and 5. Insanity.
> > >
> > > I am looking forward to seeing how well clans can integrate into infinite, and how they will survive.
> > >
> > > Leave a comment sharing your thoughts and feelings on all this.
> >
> > Yea I heard about this on Twitter, but the post was deleted. Maybe that means it was fake and 343 told him to take it down so there’s no fake news, OR it was somewhat correct and they didn’t want it leaked. I was personally hoping there would be a battle royale in infinite because there would be so many possibilities and it would be sick but if there is this BTB 2.0 hopefully it’s good
>
> Just no. WHY the hell do people want Battle Royale in every game? That’s so stupid. Again.
>
> Halo has so good playlists/gametypes that should return before anybody should think about BR.
>
> VIP from Halo 3 should return, Reach#s Invasion, a real Firefight [not that Halo 5 trash]. If anybody want something like Carrier Assault from BF4 or that thing from SW BF2.
>
> But no Battle Royale. It’s a nice kind of gametype but totally not something for an Halo playlist.

People could just as easily say this 64+ player big team battle 2.0. This purity test argument is not a real argument.

I don’t know if the mechanics of Halo hold up well in a battle royale, but I know I’m not going to look like a clown and say “No, that’s just stupid,” without making any real argument.

I like the idea of an expanded BTB, I just hope there a faction vs faction invasion variant since invasion is my favorite game mode.

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> I just seen Mint Blitz community post on YouTube and it got my head racing. So apparently the multiplayer launch focuses on 343’s new iteration of big team battle, BTB 2.0. This got me thinking about global battles, originally conceived during Halo 2, scrapped, brought back for Halo 3, scrapped again, and instead went on to influence what we now call Warzone in Halo 5.
>
> This gives me true visions of grandeur.
>
> Imagine, storming a Battlefield, an army of Spartans and elites on both sides, massive in scale. How many players on a side? 8? 16? 32? Time will tell.
>
> The battles would be legendary, each one different from the last.
>
> This is what I envision.
>
> I can’t wait to see how else 343 blow our puny little minds.
>
> Personally I love that we can have other spartan generations, such as gen 3 Spartans, gen 1, gen 2 and gen 4 and 5. Insanity.
>
> I am looking forward to seeing how well clans can integrate into infinite, and how they will survive.
>
> Leave a comment sharing your thoughts and feelings on all this.

there are 4 possibly 5 types of spartans and 3 gens of armor