Big Concerns

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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Now, I’m just going to start this off by saying I’m a Diamond 6 on Arena Slayer… and this is just to shed some light.

I’ve been a Halo fan since the original on the XBOX. Playing Combat Evolved, online, before XBOX LIVE even came out, with the various networking hacks. Now I sit here with Halo 5… sad. There are fundamental things that break this game. This is a SHOOTER that sucks at SHOOTING and I have no idea how they could have missed this. The big complaint, since launch, was fixing the aiming acceleration and after the December update, the acceleration still exists. They gave us tools to “mask” the acceleration, but that’s like getting a hooptie and putting new oil in it. After putting “Acceleration” to 2, the mechanics smooth out with the flaw still present. So, one trying to be more accurate at range, will have the Sensitivity between 3-5, but they can’t turn around. Put the setting to 6-10, and you hit a couple of shots, then jerkiness begins.

Now people have put a BAND-AID over the issue by jiggling the left stick while making small adjustments to the right stick… is that how 343 wants us playing Halo from now on? REALLY? So very low auto aim, 4-5 burst from a battle rifle,shooting mechanics that don’t work, equals a VERY frustrating experience. We spend more effort fighting our own controls, then fighting the opposite team. The average Accuracy is about 42%!!! That’s not people spraying with the AR, as EVERYONE switches to the pistol at the start of every match.

I understand the Pros changed the mechanics and this was probably done for E-Sports, but now 50% of the community is alienated. People have already left to play COD, Battlefield, Rainbow, etc etc… WTF 343??? You Guys were really testing this multiplayer out for 2 years, and this is what you came up with???

Last night, I gave the controls to my younger cousin. He is pretty effecient with FPSs and he litterally struggled to to get more that 3 bursts on someone. he proceeded to loses match after match and my ranking started to plummet. No big deal, but his reaction to the game is a microcosm of what many have been saying. Halo 5 is a frustrating experience. Even with the settings inputted to the fastest possible, initial input is still sluggish like Master Chief is an Abrams tank.
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OVERGROWTH
We just got Overgrowth, in the December update, and it is widely considered the worst map of all time, lol. Let’s see… let’s have a small corridor map… let’s put the Active Camo RIGHT NEXT to the Shotgun, let’s also put a sword onto the map, and let’s put the rail gun in the open area so they can fight over it. Right… well NO ONE is fighting over the rail gun, ESPECIALLY since they have an ACTIVE/Shotty combo, you idiots.

Please add any of your experiences…

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You just haven’t adjusted all the way yet. Personal experience like your younger cousin sucking isn’t objective. Maybe he sucked because he just started playing…?

Don’t even start on Overgrowth. It’s the newest map and therefore most people haven’t taken the time to learn all the strategies and jumps on it. Your fault, along with all the other complainers. I don’t even know why I’m bothering with this.

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I’ve seen too many people talk about “I used to destroy on older Halos.” This isn’t older Halos and you need to adjust. Put up or shut up, as they say.

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From your post history, you were complaining about the aiming in the Beta blaming it on the “loose” Xbox One controllers. Here’s your January 2015 post:

“Hey Guys,So I’m enjoying the beta, but I’m having an issue. The XBOX one analogue sticks seems VERY loose/sloppy to me. When I play COD, I’m usually 3:1 KD and most classic Halos 1.2:1 KD (would be ALOT higher if I didn’t constantlty walk away from the xbox while the game is running and go 0-15, all of the time. When I’m playing seriously, I’m usually 2:1 KD. When I play the Beta with the XO controller, my hit% is around 45-48%… when I plug in the Cronusmax and play with the 360 controller, my hit% is 64-68%. If I have 25 kills, I’ll get 20 headshots and I don’t feel like I’m fighting the controls. I feel like the 360 sticks have the right amount of resistance. Is there anyway to fix the XO sticks? Can SCUFs adjust this?Thanks in Advance,
x Spades x”

Seems like maybe you’re just happier if you think you can place your struggles on something outside of your control.

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> I’ve seen too many people talk about “I used to destroy on older Halos.” This isn’t older Halos and you need to adjust. Put up or shut up, as they say.

I’m a DIAMOND 6!!!

What the F are you talking about???

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> From your post history, you were complaining about the aiming in the Beta blaming it on the “loose” Xbox One controllers. Here’s your January 2015 post:
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> “Hey Guys,So I’m enjoying the beta, but I’m having an issue. The XBOX one analogue sticks seems VERY loose/sloppy to me. When I play COD, I’m usually 3:1 KD and most classic Halos 1.2:1 KD (would be ALOT higher if I didn’t constantlty walk away from the xbox while the game is running and go 0-15, all of the time. When I’m playing seriously, I’m usually 2:1 KD. When I play the Beta with the XO controller, my hit% is around 45-48%… when I plug in the Cronusmax and play with the 360 controller, my hit% is 64-68%. If I have 25 kills, I’ll get 20 headshots and I don’t feel like I’m fighting the controls. I feel like the 360 sticks have the right amount of resistance. Is there anyway to fix the XO sticks? Can SCUFs adjust this?Thanks in Advance,
> x Spades x”
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> Seems like maybe you’re just happier if you think you can place your struggles on something outside of your control.

That’s great that you did the research, but I’m playing with the XBOX 360 controller, using the CronusMax. Any other analysis? Aaaaaaand again, I’m a DIAMOND 6 with +19k kills.

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None. Just noting that almost all of your post history has to do with aiming. Just enjoy the game.

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Sounds like you just arent adjusting too well. Give it time and you will get used to it. As others have said, this isnt halo 2 or 3. You just need to get used to it and you will be fine.

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> Sounds like you just arent adjusting too well. Give it time and you will get used to it. As others have said, this isnt halo 2 or 3. You just need to get used to it and you will be fine.

I understand where you are coming from. The question is, how many people have already given up on this game? I mean I am very highly ranked and I’ve been sticking it out to almost 20k kills… and I still feel the way that I do. Isn’t that a problem?

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> > 2533274846171508;8:
> > Sounds like you just arent adjusting too well. Give it time and you will get used to it. As others have said, this isnt halo 2 or 3. You just need to get used to it and you will be fine.
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> I understand where you are coming from. The question is, how many people have already given up on this game? I mean I am very highly ranked and I’ve been sticking it out to almost 20k kills… and I still feel the way that I do. Isn’t that a problem?

Please dont take this the wrong way as i mean no offense, but just because you dont like something doesnt mean there is a problem

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YOU are the problem, not the game. If you really don’t like it, go play something else. No one is forcing you to play this game.

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Okay so here is a dumb question… you say you have near 20k kills, tons of play time, and yet you don’t like it? You also are using an aftermarket product not designed for this control scheme, do you do worse with a standard controller?

Can I ask you a legitimate question? What about all the people that claim they aren’t having the issues you are? Are they lying?
Point of advice also: Making blanket statements like “EVERYONE switches to the pistol” is not going to win you internet debate points.

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I have been playing halo just as long as the OP and I have had zero issues adapting to the “new” aiming setup in halo 5. I play on default settings with the elite controller and the only change I made was to swap the shoulder buttons around. Now before I continue let me say this: HALO 5 IS NOT A TWITCH BASED SHOOTER. You are asking for twitch based controls in a game that has completely rejected twitch based mechanics. Halo 5 has extremely low aim assist. It is not going to hold your hand like COD does and help you annihilate your enemies in a fraction of a second with a single pull of the trigger. Halo 5 is all about smooth aiming and reticle control.

Now I’m going to tell you exactly how to master these controls. First stop changing your settings around all the time when you feel frustrated. Find what is closest to what you like then stop making changes. If you make any changes to your control setting you must give yourself time to adapt to it. I would suggest at least 15+ games without making a single change just to become proficient. To really master your settings your going to have spend at least a week or more with them to really train your reflexes to be in sync with those settings. Again you can not change your settings during this time. I promise you will see a large improvement in your gameplay if you just stick with one setting and leave it alone. Also be sure your TV is set to game mode if it has such a setting as this will help cut out some latency in image projection on your screen. This is sometimes over looked by a lot of people and some flat screens can produce a lot of latency throwing off your aiming.

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> I have been playing halo just as long as the OP and I have had zero issues adapting to the “new” aiming setup in halo 5. I play on default settings with the elite controller and the only change I made was to swap the shoulder buttons around. Now before I continue let me say this: HALO 5 IS NOT A TWITCH BASED SHOOTER. You are asking for twitch based controls in a game that has completely rejected twitch based mechanics. Halo 5 has extremely low aim assist. It is not going to hold your hand like COD does and help you annihilate your enemies in a fraction of a second with a single pull of the trigger. Halo 5 is all about smooth aiming and reticle control.
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> Now I’m going to tell you exactly how to master these controls. First stop changing your settings around all the time when you feel frustrated. Find what is closest to what you like then stop making changes. If you make any changes to your control setting you must give yourself time to adapt to it. I would suggest at least 15+ games without making a single change just to become proficient. To really master your settings your going to have spend at least a week or more with them to really train your reflexes to be in sync with those settings. Again you can not change your settings during this time. I promise you will see a large improvement in your gameplay if you just stick with one setting and leave it alone. Also be sure your TV is set to game mode if it has such a setting as this will help cut out some latency in image projection on your screen. This is sometimes over looked by a lot of people and some flat screens can produce a lot of latency throwing off your aiming.

Yes! Thank you! I agree with everything you are saying

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> Okay so here is a dumb question… you say you have near 20k kills, tons of play time, and yet you don’t like it? You also are using an aftermarket product not designed for this control scheme, do you do worse with a standard controller?
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> Can I ask you a legitimate question? What about all the people that claim they aren’t having the issues you are? Are they lying?
> Point of advice also: Making blanket statements like “EVERYONE switches to the pistol” is not going to win you internet debate points.

Everyone DOES switch to the pistol. That’s not really debatable.

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The point is… after every match, the accuracit’s are like 40% (even the ONYX rankers). Most of the ONYX matches are pistols, BRs, DMRs, Carbines, and SMGs (no including power weapons). Not minus the SMGs, those are all percision weapons. Those accuracies are horrible, for some of the best players. My accuracy is ALWAYS around 50%, so I’m very good at getting shots on… that’s not the issue… is KEEPING the shots on while fighting the controls.
Also, it’s NOT only me talking about this. The issue was so big that the made a slight change in the Nov update and published another (bigger) change in Dec. So you guys are lying to yourselves saying no one else is talking about it because the told us Acceleration should be at 2, to mimic the Beta controls (the reason for the HUNDREDS of complaints). Smh
So if people WEREN’T complsining, they wouldn’t have given us more control options! Lol

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> > 2533274950604834;13:
> > I have been playing halo just as long as the OP and I have had zero issues adapting to the “new” aiming setup in halo 5. I play on default settings with the elite controller and the only change I made was to swap the shoulder buttons around. Now before I continue let me say this: HALO 5 IS NOT A TWITCH BASED SHOOTER. You are asking for twitch based controls in a game that has completely rejected twitch based mechanics. Halo 5 has extremely low aim assist. It is not going to hold your hand like COD does and help you annihilate your enemies in a fraction of a second with a single pull of the trigger. Halo 5 is all about smooth aiming and reticle control.
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> > Now I’m going to tell you exactly how to master these controls. First stop changing your settings around all the time when you feel frustrated. Find what is closest to what you like then stop making changes. If you make any changes to your control setting you must give yourself time to adapt to it. I would suggest at least 15+ games without making a single change just to become proficient. To really master your settings your going to have spend at least a week or more with them to really train your reflexes to be in sync with those settings. Again you can not change your settings during this time. I promise you will see a large improvement in your gameplay if you just stick with one setting and leave it alone. Also be sure your TV is set to game mode if it has such a setting as this will help cut out some latency in image projection on your screen. This is sometimes over looked by a lot of people and some flat screens can produce a lot of latency throwing off your aiming.
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> Yes! Thank you! I agree with everything you are saying

As do I. Very informative.

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Also, stop acting like Halo is now all of a sudden a more tactical shooter. It always has been!!! So Halo 5 is NO DIFFERENT than Halo 4 (at least in the beta). The aiming should have stayed the same. Fine they changed it for no reason

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> > Sounds like you just arent adjusting too well. Give it time and you will get used to it. As others have said, this isnt halo 2 or 3. You just need to get used to it and you will be fine.
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> I understand where you are coming from. The question is, how many people have already given up on this game? I mean I am very highly ranked and I’ve been sticking it out to almost 20k kills… and I still feel the way that I do. Isn’t that a problem?

You are 100% correct, the aiming mechanics are absolute garbage and the main reason why I haven’t bought the game yet. I rented the game shortly after release and couldn’t stand to play it at all, didn’t even play enough to get ranked in any playlist. After the December update I rented the game again when they said they added aim adjustment to the control settings… Helped a little, but they still feel really jerky and clunky.

here is your biggest problem though… You came on a halo 5 forum to complain about halo 5. 95% of the people still here are the ones that like the game and are just going to tell you that you suck and the aiming is fine.

dont worry though everyone on my friends list from h3 and reach have stopped playing h5 as well largely due to aiming mechanics and other game mechanics that don’t work right. Unfortunately it is going to be futile to try and convince others here that this is the case.

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’‘Now people have put a BAND-AID over the issue by jiggling the left stick while making small adjustments to the right stick… is that how 343 wants us playing Halo from now on?’'

Are you seriously stating that you never did strafing in halo? Halo aiming has ALWAYS been aiming with your left stick and adjusting with your right stick. It’s not like CoD where you stand still or do a crouch/drop shot to kill somebody.

To me it sounds like you’re complaining because you’re not used to the aiming on the game. I personally have not found a single moment in Halo 5 were the aiming was ‘off’ what so ever. The aiming is perfectly fine, to be honest, I even aim a lot better on this Halo compared to other Halo games and yes, I have been playing for over 14 years. So don’t come up with stuff saying ‘‘You’re probably just an average gamer’’ because I’m not.