I do not remember them stating that Elites in Halo 3 had issues being shot from behind. I know from experience that the hitboxes are identical, even down to stuff like the rear-shoulder movement covering most of the head.
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You are saying that the Elite hitbox is identical to that of the Spartan in Halo 3? Wow.
You’re like 10 years late to the party, but a good portion of the community have been upset since their exclusion and have been asking for them to come back in at least some way.
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These both can’t be true (specifics not withstanding, not sure what a ‘good portion’ means). But I’d venture to guess Darwi is right. There must be plenty of data across legacy and MCC play showing how small the ‘elite population’ is/was. Anecdotally, as someone who went thru a multi-year Elite phase in H2, they were a dramatic minority. I doubt it is worth the resources at this time.
Which isn’t to say it won’t ever happen. The core system would adopt and balance it well, and I think might entice more players to sport the elites than ever if the content is intriguing enough. But that’s a business decision for the future.
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FIRST : People wants matchmaking and desync fixes - Halo infinite players plays for competitive sensations. Most of us we dont play with expensive gears. All of these details could comes AFTER they fixed the matchmaking and the desync.
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These guys seem to have it handled but based on what I know it’s a balancing sorta issue which for granted I think halo reach did a pretty damn good job at leveling that playing field We’re hoping that the elites will return playable they deserve it and so does the sangheili community
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Even in the heydays of Halo 2/3/Reach, I very rarely saw people play as Elites. Even in big team games there’d only be like one or two players out of the entire round who would play Elites. Even then though, there was a much higher percentage of games that didn’t have Elites at all - just everyone playing as Spartans.
Whenever I played MCC, it was much the same.
Given the work and potential hitbox/balancing issues concerning Elites with their models, animations, and everything else, its kind of easy to see why playable Elites wouldn’t be worth it.
I’m all for players eventually having the option sometime in the future, but speaking as someone who never played as an Elite, I can certainly understand why we haven’t had them in 4/5/Infinite and don’t necessarily care if we never do.
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It is. Have you ever tried to headshot a Spartan from behind in Halo 3, using a BR or Pistol? It’s really hard, because the hitbox moves so that it’s covered by most of the back when the player model moves forward. Elites replicate that with their hitboxes.
[It's a myth that it makes Elites harder to kill in SWAT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnsFti1I9s8)
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Must’ve been referring to 2 and reach only, because they share the same hitbox in h3, what made it hard to get headshots was the desynched postion of the head.
I made a reply explaining this the best I can already so if you’re interested go look for that in my history.
Every halo ever its been like this
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I would just like to put my 2 cents in. Idc if the hitboxes are different. I really wish I could play as an elite for nostalgia sake. PLEASE 343!! Bring the Elites back even if you have to disable them for the competitive arena! Would bring back so much variety in 1 move. (complicated as it may be)
Elites need their own mechanics/abilities so they can’t add them just like that as i see it.
H5 was way better for elites to be honest because of it’s movement mechanics.
Idk just imagine elites with the same pickup spartan equipment, slow sprint in Infinite, it just weird to me and don’t forget about lore side like how elites are able to use hook for example.
I mean elites are cool but only with their own things, I don’t want a lazy spartan reskin for the sake of reskin.
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343 is intensely lazy. They’d make lots of money on an Elite core and pass, but it would take a modicum of effort to implement the basic feature that previous games had as standard.
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Well what I say it is more profitable for the developer to cut content and then give a bogus reason like “it’s more competitive and fair” since every one now has the same body type… The less features and content they add but yet charge the same amount for the game, Granted multiplayer is “free” but campaign was still $60 and missing quite a bit of stuff as well. Sadly it’s not just 343. A lot of games are giving less bang for the bucks. Just the way it is sadly.
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Just for comparison sake, Quake Champions manages to have different species and still make it work. I don’t see why 343i can’t if other triple A developers can.
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The talented developer team left and microsoft took their own staff and had them fail to replace their predecessors.
This new team has no desire to innovate or evolve the game so they just copy from pre existing material both from Halo and popular games. So Elite player models wont be added because it would take too much creative thought which is something that isn’t allowed at the current department in charge of Halo.
They and their fans like to list “competitive” as an excuse to not allow more customization, however they fail to realize only a tiny percentage of their entire playerbase doesn’t care about “competitive” and would prefer to play as Spartans or Elites. My solution to making things “competitive” is that there should be no male or female body types or voices, armor pieces, or colors at all everyone should just be a bright white mannequin to allow for complete competitiveness without any detraction to “esport”.
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Gears of war is similar too! the locust are way beefier and chunkier along with the more slimmer kantus and the humans are even more slimmer especially the females! and don’t even get me started on they’re armor too! If they can pull it off so can 343
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Forget the lore, halo has put lore second until 343 took over.
Halo reach did this, ended up getting cut out of MM.
Then play overwatch or something lol i dont see your issue
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I have no issues, friend, I don’t need elites to keep playing halo, so your words about overwatch looks kinda weird to me, sorry.
By the way I don’t like overwatch.
Elites do not need their own special mechanics
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343 doesn’t like playable Elites simple as that.
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