I really enjoy Behemoth, it’s a VERY good map, it just isn’t set up for AR/Sidekick starts. It is far to open, and once you control the power weapons and/or high ground it is next to impossible to push out of spawn. Having one ranged weapon on each base doesn’t allow you to be the aggressor and take space, it only allows one person to poke from a distance while you’re being fired on by 4 people at range. Once the map has progressed passed the initial spawn and race to the power weapons it is basically over. I’m not saying BR starts is a must (granted it would only make this game better) but on a map this large, where you are implementing vehicles… you should at least have the ability to fire far enough to have an impact. Be it BR starts or Commando starts, I think once the maps are this large it is almost required to start with something you can actually shoot across the map with.
With the Big Team flight right around the corner, this is a concern of mine. The maps will be that much bigger, with even more players, so if we don’t spawn with some form of ranged weapon, there will be a lot of running in open space with no ability to defend yourself.
I love the game so far, and think 343i has done great things… but I think a change like this will only be for the better of the game, and the way it feels to play it will only improve if you give people a chance to fight back.
-YagaSaga
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> I really enjoy Behemoth, it’s a VERY good map, it just isn’t set up for AR/Sidekick starts. It is far to open, and once you control the power weapons and/or high ground it is next to impossible to push out of spawn. Having one ranged weapon on each base doesn’t allow you to be the aggressor and take space, it only allows one person to poke from a distance while you’re being fired on by 4 people at range. Once the map has progressed passed the initial spawn and race to the power weapons it is basically over. I’m not saying BR starts is a must (granted it would only make this game better) but on a map this large, where you are implementing vehicles… you should at least have the ability to fire far enough to have an impact. Be it BR starts or Commando starts, I think once the maps are this large it is almost required to start with something you can actually shoot across the map with.
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> With the Big Team flight right around the corner, this is a concern of mine. The maps will be that much bigger, with even more players, so if we don’t spawn with some form of ranged weapon, there will be a lot of running in open space with no ability to defend yourself.
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> I love the game so far, and think 343i has done great things… but I think a change like this will only be for the better of the game, and the way it feels to play it will only improve if you give people a chance to fight back.
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> -YagaSaga
I get what you’re saying but have BR stats would make the map even worse, personally. You would have people camping behind the outlying rocks spamming BR shots. ARs encourage players to move closer in.
I agree the ranged power weapons are a problem but maybe try taking the inner underground route instead? I’m not entirely against a BR start but it will change the dynamic of the map tremendously.
BR starts would ruin the entire allure of the map.
Controlling power weapons does that in every halo game, on every map. That’s why it’s an Arena shooter. You have to counter play. Go under. Use the grapple. Deny power weapon spawn camping. etc. It’s hard to do that with randoms but It’s possible.