Beating a dead horse.

Games Other Halo
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I see all of these threads on the ability to sprint. It gets a little annoying to see so many threads about the same thing. And honestly, I don’t get why people purchased the game if they didn’t think sprint suits Halo, because it was known before the game even released that sprint would be in the game.

I’m not saying people aren’t entitled to their opinions, but it just gets a little irritating seeing so many threads on something that everybody knew would be in the game from the start. :confused:

Now, what about those skins? Some of the armor skins are really lame, in my opinion. I like some of them, but most just seem bland and uninspired. I really like some of the weapon skins though, especially the Fracture skin for the Plasma Pistol. I wish you could apply any skin to any weapon/armor. :confused:

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The phrase is “flogging a dead horse”.

And yes, in most instances sprint doesn’t bother me, except when maps are made larger for it. :confused:

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Some of it may be to keep the hate of sprint on the front page for 343i staff to see.

I don’t think it’s going anywhere though.

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I’m personally not pissed off about sprint. I think Halo does need it to some extent.

The problem is the fact we can’t turn it off. This means competitive games have to deal with it and that’s just no fun at all.

Come to think of it, that’s the problem with most of Halo 4’s settings. The fact that we can’t get away from them.

As for skins, if they were going to put skins in the game they should have made them really cool interesting skins.

I like my Artic Camo BR, but at the same time, it would have been cool to have a skin that made it look like the Halo 2 or 3 BR.

I just think they didn’t reach their potential with the skins.

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> <mark>The phrase is “flogging a dead horse”.</mark>
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> And yes, in most instances sprint doesn’t bother me, except when maps are made larger for it. :confused:

Beating a dead horse is also acceptable. I’ve actually never heard the phrase said with flogging, and I’m old. Ancient even.

Regardless, yes, the discussions can get tiresome, but that’s what forums are for… to debate, discuss, and provide constructive feedback. What’s strange, is that back in the day, on the Bnet forums during H3, sprint was a feature that many had asked for or wondered what Halo would be like with it. There’s nothing wrong with liking or not liking it, it’s just personal preference, no one is wrong. If there is anything to take out of this, it’s to realize that people’s opinions differ, and that maybe it’s worth having some gametypes or hoppers where it’s disabled.

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> The problem is the fact we can’t turn it off. This means competitive games have to deal with it and that’s just no fun at all.
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> Come to think of it, that’s the problem with most of Halo 4’s settings. The fact that we can’t get away from them.

I gotta agree with this one, H3 had more flexibility than H2, but when Reach came out, everything got a whole lot better.

Gametypes on Reach are really only limited by what you haven’t thought of yet. (except for juggernaut, that one can get tricky)

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> > <mark>The phrase is “flogging a dead horse”.</mark>
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> > And yes, in most instances sprint doesn’t bother me, except when maps are made larger for it. :confused:
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> Beating a dead horse is also acceptable. I’ve actually never heard the phrase said with flogging, and I’m old. Ancient even.
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> Regardless, yes, the discussions can get tiresome, but that’s what forums are for… to debate, discuss, and provide constructive feedback. What’s strange, is that back in the day, on the Bnet forums during H3, sprint was a feature that many had asked for or wondered what Halo would be like with it. There’s nothing wrong with liking or not liking it, it’s just personal preference, no one is wrong. If there is anything to take out of this, it’s to realize that people’s opinions differ, and that maybe it’s worth having some gametypes or hoppers where it’s disabled.

Exactly. You said it in a very kind way. I think being a little more blunt will help to get the point across so I will rephrase it a little. Where 343 missed the mark wildly was in getting caught up trying to make Halo 4 “theirs”. Halo was always built by Bungie, but for the players. The wild levels of customization that Halo Reach saw were the product of that. Bungie moves on and 343 step in and somehow end up on this path that they need to define themselves and “their” Halo with Halo 4. What I feel they’ve overlooked is that they were chosen to continue a franchise, not reinvent it. If they wanted to create something, then they shouldn’t have stepped in to work on somebody else’s game. Doesn’t sound very glorious, and maybe it’s not. Halo isn’t theirs, they didn’t make it, they weren’t chosen to make it, they were chosen to carry the torch. They got ahold of the torch, laid it on a table, and started rebuilding it before walking down the road with it. Now the handle feels weird, the flame is kinda spewing out the side, and it drips hot ash all over whoever is carrying it.

I know that we all want to do something magical, and I’m sure 343 were just trying to flex a little creative muscle and put their mark on something. Problem is that’s not what Halo needed. And sometimes the jobs we’re hired for aren’t magical. Where I think they really showed a lot of potential and can certainly get creative is the Campaign. It was confusing as hell though. Great but confusing. What actually happened to Cortana?? What is the blue bubble she and chief were in?? Who knows! Not me. Whatever.

Multiplayer saw a complete makeover that effectively removed 90% of the customization that we had been given. This is where they should have left the torch alone. Tweak things a little, don’t destroy our game just cause that’s how you want it. This game is so damn boring now. All that’s left to do is work on commendations, but even that is poorly thought out. Objective wins is as random as who votes for which game type. CSR is a massive joke. Why did they even bother with the dev time and resources to create a meaningless number that I have so sign into Waypoint OUTSIDE of the game to check? I couldn’t care less. What a waste of time and money. I was so damn excited about Action Sack, and now look how stale that’s already gotten.

Anyway I saw a post above this one saying that there’s nothing left to do in Halo 4. It’s really true. Other than chipping away at commendations, the game is pretty much done. Castle maps added zero to the game. Now watching them try to convince us all that buffing every other weapon around the DMR is a great idea is equal parts funny and frustratingly confusing. Whatever. Glad I was part of an open beta for the last 5 months. I thought I was buying a Halo game. It has been interesting to watch them grabbing bits and pieces from the forum and sewing them on to Halo 4 like Frankenstien’s monster. Then you ask yourself “What the hell? Who chose these people?” It’s like creating the Spartan IIs without first screening candidates. Should have been an ego filter on for the job interview process so that we would be palying a Halo created for the fans, not a Halo created for a company that wants the fans to play it their way.

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Heard flogging once before… maybe UK English?

I dont think there are many “new” topics in this Halo 4 forum anymore. The disenfranchised have made their thoughts known since pretty much day 1. The only surprising thing is some of them think 343 isn’t listening. I guess they mistake lack of immediate action for poor earballs… Still and all, they have the right to express their opinions. It’s just so much more effective when they contribute to an existing thread instead of posting yet another brain dump.

Sprint doesn’t bother me, either. In fact I enjoy it. Any argument against could be logical and socialist and fair or [insert just argument here] but that won’t stop me from enjoying it and hoping it sticks around.

Agreed re: skins. I think Halo 5 should have fewer skins but let them apply across all armor sets/weapons. As it stands right now everything is too indistinct.

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We could always turn the forum into Penny-Arcade style where they have one thread per subject, and one subject per thread. All other threads get pruned and removed. Although it would be daunting for new members to go through 40+ pages to get caught up with the discussion.

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OP, the only people I’m going to listen to tell me what I can and can’t post are the moderators.

People are posting about sprint because they want it gone in Halo 5, or at least want it removed in specific playlists.

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343 kinda shot themselves in their monitor-hover device that keeps them afloat by not including an option to turn sprint off (among other things). This could have helped make it easy to make game types with no sprint, and more than likely would have been easy to implement due to game types found in Action Sack and even basic Flood with no sprint for the infected is in place (along with objective holders such as Oddball and CTF). A simple “enabled/disabled” option in the movement section of traits would have sufficed.

Granted we probably would have gotten threads about “Why is there sprint in all of matchmaking!?” due to sprint being default and more than likely part of the intended Infinity “New Halo” game play, but at least people could have the ability to change to see how no sprint could have been in game types in customs.

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> OP, the only people I’m going to listen to tell me what I can and can’t post are the moderators.
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> People are posting about sprint because they want it gone in Halo 5, or at least want it removed in specific playlists.

I don’t even mind sprint. Don’t see what the problem is with it?

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> > OP, the only people I’m going to listen to tell me what I can and can’t post are the moderators.
> >
> > People are posting about sprint because they want it gone in Halo 5, or at least want it removed in specific playlists.
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> I don’t even mind sprint. Don’t see what the problem is with it?

Because maps were made bigger to compensate for sprint.
Because on smaller maps due to instant spawns+ sprint people take corners more slowly causing game play to slow down.
Sprinting head first into a fight is a terrible idea. So sprint really is only good for retreating which is hampered by being slowed down when shot.

Sprint adds and sometimes harms gameplay. It hase virtually no benifit except for BTB. Now i don’t mind sprint myself. But these are good points.

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> OP, the only people I’m going to listen to tell me what I can and can’t post are the moderators.

Oooooh this could be fun! From now on, all your posts must be about pancakes!

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> > OP, the only people I’m going to listen to tell me what I can and can’t post are the moderators.
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> Oooooh this could be fun! From now on, all your posts must be about pancakes!

…-Yoink-.

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Halo used to be about the Golden Triangle: Grenades, Melee and Weapons.

We could say that Halo is like a Pancake, it is a basic formula but it is devastatingly good when done correctly. Unfortunately additions such as Sprint, are adding new ingredients to this formula and ultimately you end up with something that hardly resembles the old formula.

Whilst some people may like the new formula, others also preferred the old formula.

Halo 2 and 3 both added ingredients to the formula without changing the formula too greatly. Whilst many people disliked the changes, and could no longer eat the delicious pancake that is Halo there were still many who grew to love the changes.

With Halo Reach and 4 there have been too many new ingredients thrown in (Especially Halo 4). The pancake looks the same, but it doesn’t taste the same.

I tried my best with the pancake analogy. Don’t think it makes sense, but I don’t want to be banned. lel

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> > > OP, the only people I’m going to listen to tell me what I can and can’t post are the moderators.
> >
> > Oooooh this could be fun! From now on, all your posts must be about pancakes!
>
> …-Yoink!-.

Your response has nothing to do with pancakes. Try again.

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I’ve only seen two sprint topics recently: one asking if it is a problem, and the other one looking to find a compromise. That doesn’t really seem like an over saturation to me… Plus the word sprint is in the title so if that isn’t what you are into discussing you can just avoid the topic… But then you make your own topic related to it, so I don’t even know…

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People get to express their stupid opinions, just like you get to express yours about it. Quit Complaining about complaining.

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> We could say that Halo is like a Pancake,

Modern Marvels (history channel) showed off the literal interpretation, so . . . yeah, Halo is EXACTLY like a pancake, a WWII Aunt Jemima pancake!!! :smiley:

You readin’ this Snickerdoodle? Sarcasmbully? :wink: