I cannot understand why people keep going on about a Battle Royale (BR) will be the saviour of Halo, if I’m totally honest here I cannot see a BR turning the tide and reversing Halos fortunes. The golden triangle of Halos gameplay loop will not work within a BR frame work.
Instead of trying to shoe horn Halo into genre that is already overflowing with multiple failed games lets look at what Halo has been successful with.
Invasion was an extremely successful game mode that plays to Halos strengths and instead of 6v6 it could be expanded to a 12v12, with larger maps and more objectives to complete. Instead of chasing trends or listening to what streamers want 343i should look to the Halo back catalogue and see what the community enjoyed and loved.
Me personally, i would like to see a large scale BTB that plays something like early Battlefield games. Multiple players, vehicles and control points on huge maps that squads and teams can fight over.
The BR market is over saturated, let Halo strike out on its own and create something awesome Instead of chasing trends (we know how well thats gone in the past )
i not understand that also not why there keep thinking that.
a battle royal for halo is the worst solution there is since its only going to make things more worse then there are now.
that the BR market is hot sure but that is not always telling its going to work 100% good it can destroy also things good.
battlefield firestrom is the best exemple there is how it can fail hard and not has become a good sucses.
and a battle royal mode is something 343 never can do at all in the first place.
if there fail all hard with halo infinite with the basic campaign and multiplayer mode’s then a BR mode is not going to do anything good at all.
there is all a big trust problem in the halo serie’s now so if there fail with the BR mode also then its only become more worse for the reputation for the halo serie’s in general.
and 343 become’s only more a joke then there are now.
The only people that want a Battle Royale in Halo are casuals. No real Day 1 Halo CE supporter wants a Battle Royale in Halo. It has no place in Halo except Custom Games Browser. Just give us an expanded version of Warzone from Halo 5, thats all we need in that regard… If they were to add a Battle Royale in Halo, especially before some of the core playlist like Firefight, I will quit Halo once and for all and never return. I already feel childish playing this game in its current state with no real Player Collision and cheap servers that dont register shots and getting headshot around corners/cover… Im trying my best not to lose hope in this franchise but its like we’re all chasing nostalgia that we may not ever get again… Im a die hard Halo supporter, Ive always been the type to cast you down if you brought up games like CoD or Destiny because I know Halo takes way more skill (it used to) to play but because Halo:Infinite failed at launch it caused me to try other games and Im kinda happy it happened the way it did because Im having a ton of fun beta testing for Ubisoft & Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon. Im a Day 1 supporter of Halo, I was 10 years old when CE released. Dont laugh at me but Im a passionate gamer and Ive already shed all the tears that I could over this game… If they add Battle Royale, Im out forever…
Hopefully get some news on Tatanka soon enough, I kind of got the impression it’s not a straight up BR, more of a hybrid of BR and Warzone or something, I’m 50/50 on it, Can’t really say it is or is not the answer. Only time till tell, and I’m looking forward to it anyway
People are getting tired of Battle royales. If Halo would have done it like 2 maybe 3 years ago it might have gained some traction but now the BR market like you said is just way to overused right now.
I personally don’t think Battle Royale is the answer either. It definitely won’t get people back playing Infinite that’s for sure.
My biggest fear is that this side game or whatever you want to call it, which I totally agree with making it a side game, is going to change how a Halo game plays so much that it doesn’t feel like Halo at all. I know people will say well, there’s other types of Halo games out there like Halo wars but to me that is different because it’s a completely different style. The mainstream Halo games are FPS’s and this…whatever it is, will also be an FPS.
Then, if it is even semi successful or worse, really successful, you will have all these people that will say things like see Halo should have X just like (insert the name of this Battle Royale game) and whatnot. Then, Since the developers don’t want to lose these fans for the next mainstream Halo game, they will add in all this garbage like loadouts, ADS style zooming look, No player collision etc etc that this Battle Royale game had in the next mainstream game.
Even though they did this in previous games and the majority of people didn’t like it, I could see them doing it again. Then we will have the same kind of situations with future Halo games as we did with past ones and the cycle will continue…or worse, Halo just becomes like every other FPS on the market (which in my opinion is what they did a lot with previous games and is why the Halo franchise is in the state of that it’s in… And shipping a completely broken game, a bare bones game that has terrible net code also didn’t help…)
Yeah the game is gonna be almost unrecognizable. Mint Blitz did a video on all the leaks and the game seemed like its own title. Not only will it have to have some sort of healing system (shown by the leaks) we will also have a new loot pool and new mechanics that make the game play different.
That is a huge Problem with BR games. When one gets popular they expect you to make the game play exactly like other BR’s or else they leave unhappy. Fortnite is a prime example. It never needed sprint but when they saw COD they knew most people preferred natural movement. I hope they do not do this to the Halo BR or we mine as well see Apex Legends 2. (Let’s also keep in mind Halo Infinite had a scrapped class system like apex!)
Halo 4 tried to be like COD and Halo 5 tried to be like any Hero shooter. (A game with abilities and perks and all that stuff) I just hope Halo infinite stays true to the vision of Halo. I won’t mind the Halo BR but if they do all those stuff that worries us I just hope they make the game not cannon.
Calm down little fella… I think you are missing the point…
Halo has always been a trend setter not one to follow trends. You would know that if you werent so much of a casual. Those of us that have been around since DAY 1 know these thing to be true, Battle Royale is not the answer right now. The servers are not good, the hit registration and desync would be worse in a battle royale and alot of the weapons still need work amongst so many other things in the current sandbox.
Now I understand you may want a Battle Royale, Id recommend you to go play Fortnite if you want to play a Battle Royale. One thing for certain is the game in its current state is just not ready for a battle royale ESPECIALLY since we are missing alot of the core playlist like Firefight, Griffball, Infection and others. Most of us hard core supporters understand this but its the casuals who dont. You dont add something like a Battle Royale without fixing the game and adding core playlists first.
At the end of the day, Battle Royale is not the answer and all it would do is run off all the true supporters of the Halo franchise, and you would be basically playing with the same 100 people everyday and then Halo:Infinite would fail. The day 1 True Supporters DO NOT want to see the franchise fail. Those of us that are here in the forums, MOST of us want to see the game WIN. We’re not here to argue and “Hope they add Battle Royale to p*ss you off”… You have negative energy my man, go somewhere else with that. Its nothing wrong with disagreeing but understand this, we are all here for one purpose, TO SEE HALO WIN, Not FOLLOW TRENDS!
Well, I’m a day-1 Halo 2 person and I’m all for a Halo BR. Maybe I have become a “casual”, but news flash, games need casual fans to be successful. A game with only “hardcore” fans is what Halo Infinite is. A game with a dwindling population that barely supports the studio making the content. It’s impossible to ask for new content and not have a population to pay for it.
No no no, I think you guys are taking the word casual to far. What Im saying is, Casual people are the ones who are begging for armor cores, amor coatings, maps and weapons, while those of us that understand that no amount of content will fix the game because it has to many problems in its current state. Listen, there is nothing wrong with a Battle Royale, but the game is just not ready for it because not only does it have problems but its missing CORE playlist that hardcore supporters AND casual fans should be advocating for. Thats all I mean man, no harm brother!
and not forget that for a battle royal you need to have a good contant flow also to keep it going.
and also the inprotant systems most keep working good and not most fail hard like if there are delay problems with the shoots or so then its super bad.
and the seasons most not be delay to long.
and the company that is developing most have also a good track record for the trust of the players.
and since halo infinite has proof alot that it has the worst of the worst contant flow there is.
the inportant systems are failing hard also and not have been fix.
the seasons are to to long and are not running the normal 3 month’s.
and most off all 343 has the worst track record ever with halo infinite.
so will a BR for halo doing anything good no its going to fail hard and is destroying the serie’s compleet with it.
Being excited is fine, but it’s important to understand that it isn’t what most here would consider a “smart move”.
There are already a few too many battle royale games out there that are pretty much dead, Hyperscape, and Spellbreak being two of the more recent ones I can think of. (The wrestling BR hasn’t been doing too hot either from what I’ve heard)
This is before we broaden the spectrum to include games-as-a-service in general, which have been struggling lately as there are simply too many.
And the successful BR games have been around for a while now and are pretty entrenched with their player base and content flow.
For Halo infinite to devote resources to compete with that, which would also push away any non-BR fans at the same time… when it already launched so poorly, does not paint a pretty picture.
Yeah not true. Been playing Halo since the CE back in 2001 and i would love to see a Battle Royale.
An Arena Shooter shares a lot of characteristics with a Battle Royale anyway, Halo especially. No loadouts, map weapons and items, vehicles, a 2 tier health system (shields and health), and revivie and circle closing mechanic were added in Infinite.
Baiscally the only thing Halo is missing for a Battle Royale is a map. I get not wanting it before other key features or bug fixes but saying its counter to Halo is just wrong. Battle Royales are kind of the child sub genre birthed out of Arena Shooter elements originally mixed with military simulation games (now the genre is much wider than that).
A Halo BR could be good, and if Certain Affinity is working on it i have more faith it will be good than if 343 had been the one’s making it. Its no guarantee it will be good but i do feel Halo’s gameplay mechanics are similar enough to a BR that playing one should feel natural to Halo.
Again, Halo has always been a trend setter not one to follow trends… you should know that since youre from CE… I really dont have anything against a Battle Royale but it doesnt need to be advocated for when the game has problems and missing core playlist/features… We should not be sending mixed signals to the Devs…
I wouldn’t say Halo didn’t ever follow trends while it was in it’s prime.
For example, Firefight was just another horde mode among many at the time but is still a beloved game mode. When done right new Halo modes can be great even if it is following the trend.
I get the concern that other features and bug fixes should come first. But in this case 343 is rumored to not be the ones working on it anyway so i think that concern is rendered null.
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