I’m not sure if this is just me, but I feel as if the Banshee is just a TAD on the overpowered side when it comes to BTB. I have always thought this, especially on the remake of Sandtrap and having just played my first game after the BTB game on Estuary especially. With the lack of weapons able to kill them it becomes a bit of a joke as people seem to refuse to BR the thing down (or maybe this is the problem). I mean, I just don’t seem to find it fun when I’m repeatedly spawn killed by an enemy Banshee or subsequently BR’d or killed by a Ghost while I try to shoot it with my BR… But hey, again, maybe that’s just me too.
My point is basically, I feel as if BTB will be a lot more fun for everyone if the Banshee was just removed from this playlist. In Warzone it’s fine (most of the time) as reqs are available to everyone to destroy vehicles. This is not the case in BTB. Anyway, thoughts appreciated. Just think BTB would be an overall more enjoyable experience without the flying spawn killer there 
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> I’m not sure if this is just me, but I feel as if the Banshee is just a TAD on the overpowered side when it comes to BTB. I have always thought this, especially on the remake of Sandtrap and having just played my first game after the BTB game on Estuary especially. With the lack of weapons able to kill them it becomes a bit of a joke as people seem to refuse to BR the thing down (or maybe this is the problem). I mean, I just don’t seem to find it fun when I’m repeatedly spawn killed by an enemy Banshee or subsequently BR’d or killed by a Ghost while I try to shoot it with my BR… But hey, again, maybe that’s just me too.
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> My point is basically, I feel as if BTB will be a lot more fun for everyone if the Banshee was just removed from this playlist. In Warzone it’s fine (most of the time) as reqs are available to everyone to destroy vehicles. This is not the case in BTB. Anyway, thoughts appreciated. Just think BTB would be an overall more enjoyable experience without the flying spawn killer there
I had the same problem with Estuary. There isn’t any power weapon to take em out other than the plasma pistol. Taking the banshee and maybe adding a wasp would be better imo. (Only in Estuary) There’s a laser in the Sandtrap remake map so I think it’s fine there.
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> I had the same problem with Estuary. There isn’t any power weapon to take em out other than the plasma pistol. Taking the banshee and maybe adding a wasp would be better imo. (Only in Estuary).
Each team also gets a hydra which spawns next to the camo. You can use the plasma caster if you have a good aim and the beam rifle. That being said, I do think two banshees on the map is a bit much since one team can easily get both and then you’re screwed. The map is small enough to where a team can also get the other team’s power weapons fairly easily as well. I think there really needs to be a reduction of the weapons/power ups.
For the Banshee in general, I don’t think it’s that bad. It’s only on 4 maps and there are decent counters for it.
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> > I had the same problem with Estuary. There isn’t any power weapon to take em out other than the plasma pistol. Taking the banshee and maybe adding a wasp would be better imo. (Only in Estuary).
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> Each team also gets a hydra which spawns next to the camo. You can use the plasma caster if you have a good aim and the beam rifle. That being said, I do think two banshees on the map is a bit much since one team can easily get both and then you’re screwed. The map is small enough to where a team can also get the other team’s power weapons fairly easily as well. I think there really needs to be a reduction of the weapons/power ups.
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> For the Banshee in general, I don’t think it’s that bad. It’s only on 4 maps and there are decent counters for it.
To be fair, it’s pretty easy to dodge hydra rockets with the banshee, not to mention there’s one or two spots to shot it safely from enemy BR fire. That’s why I said it’s not a good counter to the banshee. Sure, you can take with the hydra, but one skill person on the banshee can dodge it very easily.
I really don’t mind the Banshee in open maps like Altar and Viking, once you get a power weapon such as the Spartan Laser, Rockets, or Hydra it is fairly easy to take down. Though, that being said the Banshee is not just a vehicle you can drop onto a map and expect it to work with the rest of the gameplay. A Banshee has to be planned and be a consideration during the design phase. For the first 5 minutes I really liked Estuary, and then the Banshees became a living nightmare. Now every time I play on Estuary I like it less and less because I have come to expect that two teams will get both of them and dominate this small map. While I am not sure if the Author or 343 put the Banshees on the map, either way, it was a bad design choice in my opinion. I think even Wasps would be overkill on Estuary.
Simple solution
Map has spartan laser or hydra: Banshee
No spartan laser or hydra: Wasp
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> > I’m not sure if this is just me, but I feel as if the Banshee is just a TAD on the overpowered side when it comes to BTB. I have always thought this, especially on the remake of Sandtrap and having just played my first game after the BTB game on Estuary especially. With the lack of weapons able to kill them it becomes a bit of a joke as people seem to refuse to BR the thing down (or maybe this is the problem). I mean, I just don’t seem to find it fun when I’m repeatedly spawn killed by an enemy Banshee or subsequently BR’d or killed by a Ghost while I try to shoot it with my BR… But hey, again, maybe that’s just me too.
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> > My point is basically, I feel as if BTB will be a lot more fun for everyone if the Banshee was just removed from this playlist. In Warzone it’s fine (most of the time) as reqs are available to everyone to destroy vehicles. This is not the case in BTB. Anyway, thoughts appreciated. Just think BTB would be an overall more enjoyable experience without the flying spawn killer there
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> I had the same problem with Estuary. There isn’t any power weapon to take em out other than the plasma pistol. Taking the banshee and maybe adding a wasp would be better imo. (Only in Estuary) There’s a laser in the Sandtrap remake map so I think it’s fine there.
Hydras, beam rifles, and BRs exist.
Beam rifle and plasma pistol are your best bets.
EMP the banshee and bring the over poweredness to your side