So from the games i’ve online against unsc the banished get absolutely smashed no matter what you would build, the condor is a lot more stronger compared to a scarab even if you used unbreakable ability it doesn’t last long at all. even if you had 6 scarabs versus 6 condors they would still lose not matter what even with the abilities of each commander.
Overall you may as well just play unsc rather banished at this point.
Late game it just ultimate unit spam, this is from the games i have play so far and may be different for others if so would love to know the tactics people use with banished.
The fact that the condor beats the scarab is just related to the fundamental principle of air > vehicle.
Its true, that quite a few people go for ultimates in the mid- to late-game but that’s only a problem if you are not prepared for them.
I won quite a few games because players go all-in with their scarabs and just run into an army that expects the ultimate.
Especially if the player went to T3 asap, he will be pretty weak once his ultimate explodes.
And yeah you can say pretty early if a fast scarab/condor is likely.
Just push early and see how the opponent reacts.
If he is solely spamming marines he is saving his energy for the techs.
Once you realise that, spam the counter unit and wait.
Edit: And by the way - the Shipmaster’s teleports are probably the most powerful leader abilities in HW2 (late game).
The unsc abilities are nothing against them.
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> So from the games i’ve online against unsc the banished get absolutely smashed no matter what you would build, the condor is a lot more stronger compared to a scarab even if you used unbreakable ability it doesn’t last long at all. even if you had 6 scarabs versus 6 condors they would still lose not matter what even with the abilities of each commander.
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> Overall you may as well just play unsc rather banished at this point.
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> Late game it just ultimate unit spam, this is from the games i have play so far and may be different for others if so would love to know the tactics people use with banished.
Just like Couvenant in wars 1 huh?
Well… Why don’t you just build full pop of anti-air then? That’d do it against a few condors at least.
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> The fact that the condor beats the scarab is just related to the fundamental principle of air > vehicle.
> Its true, that quite a few people go for ultimates in the mid- to late-game but that’s only a problem if you are not prepared for them.
> I won quite a few games because players go all-in with their scarabs and just run into an army that expects the ultimate.
> Especially if the player went to T3 asap, he will be pretty weak once his ultimate explodes.
>
> And yeah you can say pretty early if a fast scarab/condor is likely.
> Just push early and see how the opponent reacts.
> If he is solely spamming marines he is saving his energy for the techs.
> Once you realise that, spam the counter unit and wait.
>
> Edit: And by the way - the Shipmaster’s teleports are probably the most powerful leader abilities in HW2 (late game).
> The unsc abilities are nothing against them.
which is pretty much bs because there wasn’t a rock paper scissor in hw, it wasn’t as strict as in hw2
Thank you for the advice i’ll use that when playing matches.
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> > So from the games i’ve online against unsc the banished get absolutely smashed no matter what you would build, the condor is a lot more stronger compared to a scarab even if you used unbreakable ability it doesn’t last long at all. even if you had 6 scarabs versus 6 condors they would still lose not matter what even with the abilities of each commander.
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> > Overall you may as well just play unsc rather banished at this point.
> >
> > Late game it just ultimate unit spam, this is from the games i have play so far and may be different for others if so would love to know the tactics people use with banished.
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> Just like Couvenant in wars 1 huh?
>
> Well… Why don’t you just build full pop of anti-air then? That’d do it against a few condors at least.
Say i did build pop full of anti-air they would destroy the condors but they would get destroyed by the enemy powers doesn’t help much plus would need time to build the anti air
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> > The fact that the condor beats the scarab is just related to the fundamental principle of air > vehicle.
> > Its true, that quite a few people go for ultimates in the mid- to late-game but that’s only a problem if you are not prepared for them.
> > I won quite a few games because players go all-in with their scarabs and just run into an army that expects the ultimate.
> > Especially if the player went to T3 asap, he will be pretty weak once his ultimate explodes.
> >
> > And yeah you can say pretty early if a fast scarab/condor is likely.
> > Just push early and see how the opponent reacts.
> > If he is solely spamming marines he is saving his energy for the techs.
> > Once you realise that, spam the counter unit and wait.
> >
> > Edit: And by the way - the Shipmaster’s teleports are probably the most powerful leader abilities in HW2 (late game).
> > The unsc abilities are nothing against them.
>
> which is pretty much bs because there wasn’t a rock paper scissor in hw, it wasn’t as strict as in hw2
Can you elaborate on that?
Why shouldn’t there be a rock-paper scissors for super-units?
I have no numbers, but I definitely feel that wolverines take out a condor much faster than grizzlies?
I would be very surprised if that’s not the case actually…
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> > > So from the games i’ve online against unsc the banished get absolutely smashed no matter what you would build, the condor is a lot more stronger compared to a scarab even if you used unbreakable ability it doesn’t last long at all. even if you had 6 scarabs versus 6 condors they would still lose not matter what even with the abilities of each commander.
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> > > Overall you may as well just play unsc rather banished at this point.
> > >
> > > Late game it just ultimate unit spam, this is from the games i have play so far and may be different for others if so would love to know the tactics people use with banished.
> >
> > Just like Couvenant in wars 1 huh?
> >
> > Well… Why don’t you just build full pop of anti-air then? That’d do it against a few condors at least.
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> Say i did build pop full of anti-air they would destroy the condors but they would get destroyed by the enemy powers doesn’t help much plus would need time to build the anti air
Then use your powers. Or I don’t know, just play smart. Nobody’s found the metta yet so it’s still up for grabs.
RTS is a complex genre without a clear, set solution most of the time. You’ll get better if you play more often most likely.
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> > > > So from the games i’ve online against unsc the banished get absolutely smashed no matter what you would build, the condor is a lot more stronger compared to a scarab even if you used unbreakable ability it doesn’t last long at all. even if you had 6 scarabs versus 6 condors they would still lose not matter what even with the abilities of each commander.
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> > > > Overall you may as well just play unsc rather banished at this point.
> > > >
> > > > Late game it just ultimate unit spam, this is from the games i have play so far and may be different for others if so would love to know the tactics people use with banished.
> > >
> > > Just like Couvenant in wars 1 huh?
> > >
> > > Well… Why don’t you just build full pop of anti-air then? That’d do it against a few condors at least.
> >
> > Say i did build pop full of anti-air they would destroy the condors but they would get destroyed by the enemy powers doesn’t help much plus would need time to build the anti air
>
> Then use your powers. Or I don’t know, just play smart. Nobody’s found the metta yet so it’s still up for grabs.
>
> RTS is a complex genre without a clear, set solution most of the time. You’ll get better if you play more often most likely.
Yes RTS are complex but it just seems like you should play as UNSC currently rather than banished which i would love to but gotta tough it out and play as the unsc >_<
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> So from the games i’ve online against unsc the banished get absolutely smashed no matter what you would build, the condor is a lot more stronger compared to a scarab even if you used unbreakable ability it doesn’t last long at all. even if you had 6 scarabs versus 6 condors they would still lose not matter what even with the abilities of each commander.
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> Overall you may as well just play unsc rather banished at this point.
>
> Late game it just ultimate unit spam, this is from the games i have play so far and may be different for others if so would love to know the tactics people use with banished.
Hahaha, maybe you’re just not playing your cards right! Banished can run UNSC into the ground if they know whats comin, and I always know whats comin, having grunts scattered on all fronts of the map allows me to do that, and when I can’t see whats coming, I assume its tanks. I make hunters, and its always tanks! Nobody makes condors, and when they do, Reavers squash them like bugs! I’m serious, Banished is pretty powerful against unsc and I haven’t even touched leader abilities, hahaha!
Also, If its Ultimate Unit Spam, why not make counters? It works I swear, just try it!
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> > So from the games i’ve online against unsc the banished get absolutely smashed no matter what you would build, the condor is a lot more stronger compared to a scarab even if you used unbreakable ability it doesn’t last long at all. even if you had 6 scarabs versus 6 condors they would still lose not matter what even with the abilities of each commander.
> >
> > Overall you may as well just play unsc rather banished at this point.
> >
> > Late game it just ultimate unit spam, this is from the games i have play so far and may be different for others if so would love to know the tactics people use with banished.
>
> Hahaha, maybe you’re just not playing your cards right! Banished can run UNSC into the ground if they know whats comin, and I always know whats comin, having grunts scattered on all fronts of the map allows me to do that, and when I can’t see whats coming, I assume its tanks. I make hunters, and its always tanks! Nobody makes condors, and when they do, Reavers squash them like bugs! I’m serious, Banished is pretty powerful against unsc and I haven’t even touched leader abilities, hahaha!
> Also, If its Ultimate Unit Spam, why not make counters? It works I swear, just try it!
Hunters smash any vehicles if it has the beam cannon upgrade I know that, People do make condors also it can out range the scarab plus its flying so they could go to an area which the scarab can’t go nor could the reavers.
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> > > So from the games i’ve online against unsc the banished get absolutely smashed no matter what you would build, the condor is a lot more stronger compared to a scarab even if you used unbreakable ability it doesn’t last long at all. even if you had 6 scarabs versus 6 condors they would still lose not matter what even with the abilities of each commander.
> > >
> > > Overall you may as well just play unsc rather banished at this point.
> > >
> > > Late game it just ultimate unit spam, this is from the games i have play so far and may be different for others if so would love to know the tactics people use with banished.
> >
> > Hahaha, maybe you’re just not playing your cards right! Banished can run UNSC into the ground if they know whats comin, and I always know whats comin, having grunts scattered on all fronts of the map allows me to do that, and when I can’t see whats coming, I assume its tanks. I make hunters, and its always tanks! Nobody makes condors, and when they do, Reavers squash them like bugs! I’m serious, Banished is pretty powerful against unsc and I haven’t even touched leader abilities, hahaha!
> > Also, If its Ultimate Unit Spam, why not make counters? It works I swear, just try it!
>
> Hunters smash any vehicles if it has the beam cannon upgrade I know that, People do make condors also it can out range the scarab plus its flying so they could go to an area which the scarab can’t go nor could the reavers.
For reavers make sure you make use of it’s jump ability if you need to chase, it’s really useful if you know how to use it correctly.
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> > > The fact that the condor beats the scarab is just related to the fundamental principle of air > vehicle.
> > > Its true, that quite a few people go for ultimates in the mid- to late-game but that’s only a problem if you are not prepared for them.
> > > I won quite a few games because players go all-in with their scarabs and just run into an army that expects the ultimate.
> > > Especially if the player went to T3 asap, he will be pretty weak once his ultimate explodes.
> > >
> > > And yeah you can say pretty early if a fast scarab/condor is likely.
> > > Just push early and see how the opponent reacts.
> > > If he is solely spamming marines he is saving his energy for the techs.
> > > Once you realise that, spam the counter unit and wait.
> > >
> > > Edit: And by the way - the Shipmaster’s teleports are probably the most powerful leader abilities in HW2 (late game).
> > > The unsc abilities are nothing against them.
> >
> > which is pretty much bs because there wasn’t a rock paper scissor in hw, it wasn’t as strict as in hw2
>
> Can you elaborate on that?
> Why shouldn’t there be a rock-paper scissors for super-units?
> I have no numbers, but I definitely feel that wolverines take out a condor much faster than grizzlies?
> I would be very surprised if that’s not the case actually…
basiclly we can say and see that the scarab is weak as it gets rekted easily due to the new scrict laws of 343 rock paper scissors. In halo wars, the scarab can attack anything but in halo wars 2 it can’t even beat a scarab or any air units
Is it just me or are the Scarabs in HW1 like 3 times faster than the ones in HW2.
The Banished have a sizable advantage when it comes to base defenses. Their turrets can have ALL the upgrades on at the same time, and they have shield and cloacking generators. UNSC can only have one upgrade on at a time (which are also more expensive than the Banished ones. 300 power compared to 200 power), and have no purely defensive options, just siege turrets.
I don’t typically see late-game banished because Decimus always has a full pop of lifesteal grunts raidbossing all my bases at 12 minutes ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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> I don’t typically see late-game banished because Decimus always has a full pop of lifesteal grunts raidbossing all my bases at 12 minutes ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Hahahaha right?!
I don’t mean to run even further but you haven’t seen A shipmaster putting up portals behind your base and flooding the back with Locusts have you? haha!
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> > I don’t typically see late-game banished because Decimus always has a full pop of lifesteal grunts raidbossing all my bases at 12 minutes ¯_(ツ)_/¯
>
> Hahahaha right?!
> I don’t mean to run even further but you haven’t seen A shipmaster putting up portals behind your base and flooding the back with Locusts have you? haha!
I would of thought you’d say something along the lines of at around the 8 minute mark with teleporting an whole army behind your base ;D
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> > > I don’t typically see late-game banished because Decimus always has a full pop of lifesteal grunts raidbossing all my bases at 12 minutes ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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> > Hahahaha right?!
> > I don’t mean to run even further but you haven’t seen A shipmaster putting up portals behind your base and flooding the back with Locusts have you? haha!
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> I would of thought you’d say something along the lines of at around the 8 minute mark with teleporting an whole army behind your base ;D
Hahahaha true tho, eh! Very useful strategies in there for Banished!
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> > > > I don’t typically see late-game banished because Decimus always has a full pop of lifesteal grunts raidbossing all my bases at 12 minutes ¯_(ツ)_/¯
> > >
> > > Hahahaha right?!
> > > I don’t mean to run even further but you haven’t seen A shipmaster putting up portals behind your base and flooding the back with Locusts have you? haha!
> >
> > I would of thought you’d say something along the lines of at around the 8 minute mark with teleporting an whole army behind your base ;D
>
> Hahahaha true tho, eh! Very useful strategies in there for Banished!
Good tactic is teleporting 11 locust behind their base