I noticed this a while ago but, In Halo 4 the Marine allies are wearing what looks like Ballistic vests. Some other variants have body armor, but they all have these ballistic vests underneath and I was wondering, Do the vests help against plasma blasts in any way? Could it be something new and more effective to combat plasma?
[An example
](http://www.ten24.info/ten24/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Marine_01.jpg)Other examples. You can see the vests under the armor and pouches
I’ll go ahead and throw in a quick run down of what I think these are.
In modern times, soldiers wear nylon vests, like the ones on the Halo 4 marines, which consist of front and back “armor carriers” basically a panel with a large flap on the bottom that you use to insert various types of Kevlar armor to stop bullets and shrapnel. But the vest itself is essentially a big nylon pouch.
Obviously in Halo there is not much need for bullet protection so soldiers instead have worn metal plates on the outside of their uniforms to help stop or dissipate the heat from plasma weapons.
I think the Halo 4 Marines use a type of nylon vest similar to those used today, only instead of Kevlar they put metal plates inside. That way they can have those horizontal rows of webbing you see to mount various types of pouches and equipment to their bodies while still having protection against plasma bolts underneath.
This is all just guessing but I feel like that is pretty close to the truth.
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> I’ll go ahead and throw in a quick run down of what I think these are.
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> In modern times, soldiers wear nylon vests, like the ones on the Halo 4 marines, which consist of front and back “armor carriers” basically a panel with a large flap on the bottom that you use to insert various types of Kevlar armor to stop bullets and shrapnel. But the vest itself is essentially a big nylon pouch.
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> I think the Halo 4 Marines use a type of nylon vest similar to those used today, only instead of Kevlar they put metal plates inside. That way they can have those horizontal rows of webbing you see to mount various types of pouches and equipment to their bodies while still having protection against plasma bolts underneath.
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> This is all just guessing but I feel like that is pretty close to the truth.
Maybe they have some sort of coolant in those pockets. Like the Gel layer on the previous version, only on the inside of the vest instead. But I assume that wearing armor might be more effective since some of the marines actually do wear armor over it. But i think your idea is pretty spot on.
After going through all the armors issued to marines, I can safely say that they are only effective against bullets and shrapnel. Plasma weapons will melt it easily,
The Marines/ONI security being issued plate carriers like current soldiers uses is new to the Halo universe. In the other games they’ve either had full metal plating on the outside or no armor at all.
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> After going through all the armors issued to marines, I can safely say that they are only effective against bullets and shrapnel. Plasma weapons will melt it easily
Protection wise I’d rather have titanium armor that can possibly withstand a shot or two than a ballistic vest.
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I agree. I’ve noticed that 343i has been slowly making things a bit more logical as far as weapons/handeling and armor goes, but to issue soldiers with plate carriers instead of the previous armors seems rather strange. The only advantage the current plate carriers provide is the MOLLE system. The issue here is that they aren’t even using it. I originally thought the change was because M52B body armor didn’t provide any room/attachment possibilities for pouches, but that’s apparently wrong. I don’t think this is an upgrade in comparison to previous armors. The only reason I can think of is that no armor except for the Mjolnir can take hits from plasma, so they ditched it in favour of something lighter, but that doesn’t make sense either as the UNSC had been in war for 27 years (close to 30 atleast) and they are now changing it. I fail to see the logic behind the change in this case.
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> I agree. I’ve noticed that 343i has been slowly making things a bit more logical as far as weapons/handeling and armor goes, but to issue soldiers with plate carriers instead of the previous armors seems rather strange. The only advantage the current plate carriers provide is the MOLLE system. The issue here is that they aren’t even using it. I originally thought the change was because M52B body armor didn’t provide any room/attachment possibilities for pouches, but that’s apparently wrong. I don’t think this is an upgrade in comparison to previous armors. The only reason I can think of is that no armor except for the Mjolnir can take hits from plasma, so they ditched it in favour of something lighter, but that doesn’t make sense either as the UNSC had been in war for 27 years (close to 30 atleast) and they are now changing it. I fail to see the logic behind the change in this case.
The M52B could have attachments. Johnson and a few other marines had pouches and others things. It could be a possibility that only the marines on the infinity are wearing that BDU. I’d hope so. I assume some marines are still using the M52B armor though. The marines in Halo 2A are still wearing the outdated innsurection era BDU after it being replaced 20 years prior.
The Heavy Infantry and Field Sargent don’t seem to be wearing any less armor plate that pervious marines.
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> The Heavy Infantry and Field Sargent don’t seem to be wearing any less armor plate that pervious marines.
It looks like less armor, not by much though. This version is a little more heavily armored. to me. It looks like it provides a little more coverage on the upper chest area. Look at this image of Johnson. That armor almost completely covers his chest.
h2a marines have officially become my fav armor design by far
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Yeah, they look pretty sweet. I really like the chest piece and the shoulder armor. My favorite is a tie between 2A and 3’s design. Can’t really choose between them.
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Same. I hope 343i uses those models as inspirations for what the marines will look like in Halo 5.
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> I think the Halo 4 Marines use a type of nylon vest similar to those used today, only instead of Kevlar they put metal plates inside. That way they can have those horizontal rows of webbing you see to mount various types of pouches and equipment to their bodies while still having protection against plasma bolts underneath.
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The problem with this is that Marines in Halo never have had a problem carrying pouches on their chest before.
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I don’t see why they can’t use the design? Maybe bring the Halo 3 design back. They’re both probably in service lore wise. I remember seeing the Halo Wars armor in Halo Escalation with the White, pink and green coloring. So it’s still around.
Hmmm…super heated matter…hotter than god knows what…maybe far superior tech can do something against that
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> Hmmm…super heated matter…hotter than god knows what…maybe far superior tech can do something against that
I don’t think Ballistic vests are the answer. Plasma is like you said, is hotter than god knows what. It’s very hard to get protection from plasma damage. Not even the Covenant have that good protection from it. I can’t imagine how fast the plasma will decimate the ballistic vests and the user.
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> > I think the Halo 4 Marines use a type of nylon vest similar to those used today, only instead of Kevlar they put metal plates inside. That way they can have those horizontal rows of webbing you see to mount various types of pouches and equipment to their bodies while still having protection against plasma bolts underneath.
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> The problem with this is that Marines in Halo never have had a problem carrying pouches on their chest before.
The Halo 2 marines never had a problem with pouches. If i didn’t know any better I would think they were designed by Rob Liefeld XD
