B.O.B. Spawn Glitch - 343 please fix!

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So it would seem that there is one BOB on the 4th campaign mission “Tip of the Spear” that has yet to be found, and I believe at this point it is because of a bug that prevents it from spawning properly. Many people are looking into this and are searching for the BOB, but despite looking high and low and trying pretty much every option, there are no new BOBs to be found.

On HBO, user ‘Lord Friendship’ posted about this problem, and he received a reply from Niles Sankey, lead mission designer for Reach, via Urk. And this is what he had to say:

> Dear Lord Friendship,
>
> I took a little time to look into the case of the missing Gold Ranger Elite. It’s been a while since I’ve looked at these scripts. At first I thought there was (as you suggest in your post) a bug that prevented Bob from spawning 25% of the time. At the top of the script I noticed the random value assigned to the spawn variable was set to a value ranging between 1-4. The script was then evaluating this variable but there was were only three values it was checking for: 1-3. This confused me at first but then someone (thanks Dom!) pointed out that the last function checks for a value greater than or equal to 3. So basically the likelihood that Bob will spawn in the final area is 50% and the other two are 25% each. Also, it should be noted that the three Bobs that spawn in your lower screenshot are all controlled by the same spawning function but this particular Bob squad (even a single AI is referred to as a squad) has three starting locations that the engine randomly chooses from.
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> In any case, it appears that the script is working as designed and I don’t see any reason why Bob wouldn’t be spawning in.
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> All of that being said, it would appear that you have not identified one of the locations of Bob in this mission. According to the scripts and the object placements in the level editor, there is one more place that he should be spawning. On the other hand, with the amount of time you’ve put into the game, I can’t believe you wouldn’t have seen him unless there is a bug preventing it. Ahhh, the mysteries of life.
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> Thanks for posting your question. I hope this reply was at least somewhat interesting. Smiley
>
> Niles

Now the part that I made bold is what I want to draw attn to. Niles admits that we would have likely seen this BOB that he confirms existing with as much time and effort we have spent trying to find it.

This leads me to believe that there IS in fact a bug of some type preventing this BOB from spawning correctly.

My request is to have someone from Bungie or 343 (someone who knows exactly where this BOB is supposed to spawn) physically, themselves, pop in a production copy of the game into a production version of an Xbox 360 and play TotS until they can confirm that the BOB is in fact spawning where it should be and isnt bugged.

Or, confirm that it IS bugged and hopefully be able to do something about it. And if nothing can be done about it, at least have the decency to tell us about it so we aren’t wasting any more of our time searching for something that will never show up.

Please 343 I beg you, just check into this for us and let us know what is going on!

Reference threads:

http://www.gruntspajamas.com/forum/index.php?topic=1732.0

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There is a BOB on EVER SINGLE mission!!

He may not always be the Golden Elite, he may be a white Zealot, or Ultra, or may ONLY appear flying a Banshee, like in New Alexandria, and Exodus, but there is at least ONE in EVERY mission.

Here is a you-tube link to help you with this(one of the first BOB hunt videos made and helpful) as for on Tip of the Spear, he’s right after you get the Rocket Hog, and before the first AA gun, be quick or you’ll miss him like a million other people, plus there is another, that sometimes appears after you get in the Falcon.

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Please bother reading my post thoroughly before replying. You obviously missed what I’m trying to say.

Yes, a BOB is supposed to always spawn. BUT, there are 3 BOB squads per mission, and the POINT of my post is to point out that I believe only 2 of the 3 BOB squads are spawning on Tip of The Spear.

That is why sometimes NO BOB SPAWNS when playing this mission.

bsangel? Urk? Anyone? Clarification and/or confirmation as to one or the other would be nice.

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Well if anything, it’s a Bungie problem, 343 are not going to patch campaign, there is no point in it, killing all the BoBs does nothing.

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> Well if anything, it’s a Bungie problem, 343 are not going to patch campaign, there is no point in it, killing all the BoBs does nothing.

343 could patch it if they wanted to. and since its their job now and not Bungies, they should.

And I dont care if killing all the BOBs does “nothing”. There are some poeple out there that want to do it just for the sake of doing it. Its called “playing a game for the fun of it”. I know that might be a hard concept to understand though, so I wont try to explain it…

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> > Well if anything, it’s a Bungie problem, 343 are not going to patch campaign, there is no point in it, killing all the BoBs does nothing.
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> 343 could patch it if they wanted to. and since its their job now and not Bungies, they should.
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> And I dont care if killing all the BOBs does “nothing”. There are some poeple out there that want to do it just for the sake of doing it. Its called “playing a game for the fun of it”. I know that might be a hard concept to understand though, so I wont try to explain it…

Do you assume that someone who disagrees with you automatically doesn’t like having fun and its a pure competitive player?

If so, nice context.

A lot of bugs are in the Campaign, getting out of levels, glitching levels and probably more glitched AI, but it doesn’t get/need patched.

If BoBs needed a patch for something, Bungie would have done it, if BoBs needed a patch for something, 343 would have done it.

It doesn’t need done.

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There are far more important issues than the BoBs.

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> > > Well if anything, it’s a Bungie problem, 343 are not going to patch campaign, there is no point in it, killing all the BoBs does nothing.
> >
> > 343 could patch it if they wanted to. and since its their job now and not Bungies, they should.
> >
> > And I dont care if killing all the BOBs does “nothing”. There are some poeple out there that want to do it just for the sake of doing it. Its called “playing a game for the fun of it”. I know that might be a hard concept to understand though, so I wont try to explain it…
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> Do you assume that someone who disagrees with you automatically doesn’t like having fun and its a pure competitive player?
>
> If so, nice context.
>
> A lot of bugs are in the Campaign, getting out of levels, glitching levels and probably more glitched AI, but it doesn’t get/need patched.
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> If BoBs needed a patch for something, Bungie would have done it, if BoBs needed a patch for something, 343 would have done it.
>
>
> It doesn’t need done.

wow. you dont understand how sarcasm works, do you?

…and I think it should be patched. If there is a bug in Multi-player, and it didn’t get fixed/patched, people would be pissed, because that’s their fav game mode. And it should get patched. But ALL game modes need support, so in the same way as a MP bug should get fixed, a campaign bug should get fixed for those of us that like playing the Campaign to death.

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> There are far more important issues than the BoBs.

Thats not really for you to decide, now is it?

That may be your opinion, but thats all it is.

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I did read your copy and paste post…it was posted over a year ago, and your answer was in there…I was trying to help you but you couldn’t see that, and that was my bad!!

You have become like so many people recently that now that 343 is in charge, they have “duty” to fix these known bugs and glitches, by your and this communities command…and rant and rage every time someone calls you out about it, letting you know it ain’t gonna happen.

Pal…there is no reason on God’s earth why they should fix it…Bob’s/Golden Elites mean NOTHING to you and me and this community, and is just a silly little character of pixels in a video game…adapt and get over it…

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> > > > Well if anything, it’s a Bungie problem, 343 are not going to patch campaign, there is no point in it, killing all the BoBs does nothing.
> > >
> > > 343 could patch it if they wanted to. and since its their job now and not Bungies, they should.
> > >
> > > And I dont care if killing all the BOBs does “nothing”. There are some poeple out there that want to do it just for the sake of doing it. Its called “playing a game for the fun of it”. I know that might be a hard concept to understand though, so I wont try to explain it…
> >
> > Do you assume that someone who disagrees with you automatically doesn’t like having fun and its a pure competitive player?
> >
> > If so, nice context.
> >
> > A lot of bugs are in the Campaign, getting out of levels, glitching levels and probably more glitched AI, but it doesn’t get/need patched.
> >
> > If BoBs needed a patch for something, Bungie would have done it, if BoBs needed a patch for something, 343 would have done it.
> >
> >
> > It doesn’t need done.
>
> wow. you dont understand how sarcasm works, do you?
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> …and I think it should be patched. If there is a bug in Multi-player, and it didn’t get fixed/patched, people would be pissed, because that’s their fav game mode. And it should get patched. But ALL game modes need support, so in the same way as a MP bug should get fixed, a campaign bug should get fixed for those of us that like playing the Campaign to death.

You don’t seem to understand how hard it is patch Campaign is do you?

First they would need to change the code, do testing to see if it works on retail, once it does, make sure it doesn’t bug the whole level out, then they need to find a way for us to download it, which is most likely redownloading the whole .map file via another Title Update which considering Tip of the Spear is such a big level, isn’t worth it to fix ONE Elite from spawning because you want to complete a little collection.

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> > There are far more important issues than the BoBs.
>
> Thats not really for you to decide, now is it?
>
> That may be your opinion, but thats all it is.

So fixing 1 Elite spawn is on the top of your list of issues with Reach?

lol

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find a BOB on tip of the spear kill it reload save kill it two more times. problem solved I spammed bobs on winter contingency it gives you the same medal no matter which bob you kill.